Opinion Interchange Cap

[DMan 11]

We run with what I would consider the most versatile group of players under 6'2 of any around.
This is going to come into play next year and will work to our advantage with guys swapping from back to mid, mid to forward etc.

I think other teams mids may 'gas out' more than ours trying to keep up with our up-and-down game style while ours get chop outs from forwards and backs.

as others have said one good butterfly effect of this rule will be the shut-down of the gut running 100m sprint after kicking a goal to sit on the pine, waste of time, effort and doesn't give a forward a chance to get a real run on to kick 2 or 3 in 5 minutes

 

[Purple_Passion]

Interesting article: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-11-06/how-the-interchange-cap-could-affect-your-club

 

[Beetlebum]

I can't see the interchange cap being anything but positive for Fremantle. The cap applies to all sides (do Sydney get 9.8% extra rotations?) so the players will be all at the same level of fatigue late in games. It seems strange that the article points to us when the sides that finished 1 and 2 on the ladder in 2013 have an average not all that much lower than ours, how are Hawthorn and Geelong going to sustain their style of play? Just seems to me to be another chance for the AFL media to have a crack at Freo, good coaches like RTB move with the tide, I'm not worried in the slightest that this will have any impact on how we were already going to play in 2014.

 

[yoong]

Our style of lock down defense can be energy consuming so the major concerns will come from there.

 

[jmadrox]

Our style of lock down defense can be energy consuming so the major concerns will come from there.

energy consuming for both teams though

 

[go_the_dockers]

We averaged mid 130's this year, and the interchange cap this year is 120 + changes at quarter time so up to 129.

The interchange cap will have little to no affect on the 2014 season or any future season until the number is reduced.

 

[Seppo]

It will be interesting how many "Talls" we go in with each game and if it kill off any chance of Sandi, Gumbi and Griffin every playing in the same side. With limited rotations we don't want to burn out the amount of running and stress on the older bigger blokes.

Taking out the 3 tall backs you need for every game "Dawson/McPharlin/Johnson" It will be interesting if what the combinations will be of: 211, Griffin, Clarke, Mammoth, Pav, Gumby, Kepler... Obviously the 4 standard others would be
1. Main Ruck - Sandi
2. Back Up/Resting - Clarke
3. CHF - Pav
4. FF - Gumby

Obviously structures would change based on player availability and our opponents, but I can't see us carrying 3 of Sandi, Griffin and Gumby in the same team. With an extra tall we would be forcing our mids to cover more ground and work harder... I like the future of the athletic Ruckmen like Clarke and Moller, because they can show they cover the ground VERY quickly and help on the attack roll with the zones and set up the next play.

 

[Ragtooth]

Just wondering, Do opposition teams rotate more than average when they play us?

In relation to our defensive pressure, we'll be more tired but so would they....?

 

[go_the_dockers]

It will be interesting how many "Talls" we go in with each game and if it kill off any chance of Sandi, Gumbi and Griffin every playing in the same side. With limited rotations we don't want to burn out the amount of running and stress on the older bigger blokes.

Taking out the 3 tall backs you need for every game "Dawson/McPharlin/Johnson" It will be interesting if what the combinations will be of: 211, Griffin, Clarke, Mammoth, Pav, Gumby, Kepler... Obviously the 4 standard others would be
1. Main Ruck - Sandi
2. Back Up/Resting - Clarke
3. CHF - Pav
4. FF - Gumby

Obviously structures would change based on player availability and our opponents, but I can't see us carrying 3 of Sandi, Griffin and Gumby in the same team. With an extra tall we would be forcing our mids to cover more ground and work harder... I like the future of the athletic Ruckmen like Clarke and Moller, because they can show they cover the ground VERY quickly and help on the attack roll with the zones and set up the next play.

The structure you have there is very similar to how Hawthorn played last year, of course they had Franklin and Roughead who are very mobile talls.

I think most games they subbed out one of their tall forwards, so it will be interesting to see if we sub out a tall most games.

I think you need a tall forward line for finals, so I like that line up but I don't want it to affect our run from the midfield too much.

This is one of the reasons I am a fan of Mitch Thorp who is a mobile 3rd tall although for him to be in the side only two of Sandi\Clarke and Gumby could play.

As you said, it will interesting to see how we line up and if Plan A works.

 

[FreoRicci]

The defence rarely spend time on the bench, with MJ recording high 90% TOG and McPharlin around 80. Alot of the mids/HFF will be rotated more with Clarke and Sandi taking turns. This is going to be hugely benefital given Gumby will be sitting FF allowing Sandi/Clarke to be fresher coming off the bench.

 

[Seppo]

The defence rarely spend time on the bench, with MJ recording high 90% TOG and McPharlin around 80. Alot of the mids/HFF will be rotated more with Clarke and Sandi taking turns. This is going to be hugely benefital given Gumby will be sitting FF allowing Sandi/Clarke to be fresher coming off the bench.

Zac Dawson was ranked 6th in the AFL this season for Time on Ground.

In the Grand final he spent 100% of the time out on the field. I wonder how many K's he actually traveled and what he runs a 3k time trial in.

 

[Fred Ziffel]

not really ... Sure doesnt seem a gem, but check the best 22 thread from last off-season, many had him in it from memory.
Wouldnt think he'll be getting near early but hopefully realises last year on Rookie List and has to play like a champ to stay in side, this motivation could push him more than the rest of the boys and he could well be knocking on the door mid next season.

I'd like to be as sure of winning lotto as I am that Menegola will not get a game next year.

 

[Righteo]

It will be interesting to see whether there will be an increase in injuries next year with the reduced cap.

 

[Andy Brennan]

energy consuming for both teams though

Plus we are one of the fittest teams in the AFL, and no doubt Lyon will push everyone harder this preseason if he feels they need it to counter the cap.

 

[Andy Brennan]

The defence rarely spend time on the bench, with MJ recording high 90% TOG and McPharlin around 80. Alot of the mids/HFF will be rotated more with Clarke and Sandi taking turns. This is going to be hugely benefital given Gumby will be sitting FF allowing Sandi/Clarke to be fresher coming off the bench.

Zac Dawson was ranked 6th in the AFL this season for Time on Ground.

In the Grand final he spent 100% of the time out on the field. I wonder how many K's he actually traveled and what he runs a 3k time trial in.

This is why I'm not worried. Our tall backs are fine with huge amounts of game time, as long as we have a HBF or mids getting back to get in the hole while the talls scrag and control the space we'll be fine.

 

[Freofalcon]

I wonder if it will stop the practice of guys coming off the minute they kick a goal. I don't understand why they do that.

Kick a goal, Sprint 80 mtrs to sit on the bench for a couple of minutes, then come back on again.

 

[Beetlebum]

I wonder if it will stop the practice of guys coming off the minute they kick a goal. I don't understand why they do that.

Kick a goal, Sprint 80 mtrs to sit on the bench for a couple of minutes, then come back on again.

A practice that has pissed me off for years. They wonder why they're buggered when they kick the goal and run as fast as Usain Bolt to get off the field. Stay out their longer and jog off the field and that might add some legs late in a game.

 

[Freofalcon]

A practice that has pissed me off for years. They wonder why they're buggered when they kick the goal and run as fast as Usain Bolt to get off the field. Stay out their longer and jog off the field and that might add some legs late in a game.

Maybe I'm old school. You've had your hands on the pill, kicked a goal and you're pumped. Last place you want to be is on the bench.

 

[Beetlebum]

I remember the days when coming off the ground meant you were either injured or playing like shit.

 

[Freofalcon]

I remember the days when coming off the ground meant you were either injured or playing like shit.

I was never injured but I always seemed to spend a lot of time on the bench.

 

[yoong]

Maybe I'm old school. You've had your hands on the pill, kicked a goal and you're pumped. Last place you want to be is on the bench.

exactly! can anyone shed some light on why teams do this? I always assume it is to provide incentive (you score a goal you get some rest). But then, it kind of didn't make sense. When someone score a goal, they are probably doing something right (outplaying his direct opponent, kicking straight, running to the correct spots...) I thought the smart thing to do is to keep him on the field longer so he can continue to outplay his opponent, kick straight and stuff.

Is there a good strategic reason for the practice?

 

[Alfonz]

Players come off after a goal because the rotations are often pre-arranged, I thought that was obvious? They more they plan when players are resting, the more precise they can be in managing loads across the side.

I'd have to check the stats again, but I seem to remember our key mids generally have less TOG% than most other sides. Will be interesting to see how we manage this.

 

[Alfonz]

We averaged mid 130's this year, and the interchange cap this year is 120 + changes at quarter time so up to 129.

The interchange cap will have little to no affect on the 2014 season or any future season until the number is reduced.

We averaged 146 rotations a game. The highest in the league.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-01/interchange-cap-could-be-an-issue-for-fremantle

I think it will have a reasonably significant impact on our gameplan. A large part of our adjustment will be if we want to play one extra tall (Gumby). Not once did we go into a game last year with the structure that most people are proposing (2 KPD, 2KPF, 2 ruckman, plus Mayne and MJ as "third" talls down each end.).

Other teams like Geelong and Hawthorn might have to drop their rotations as well. But for us to go from 146 down to 129, AND play an extra tall ... that will be a big challenge.

The effect may not be noticed if you isolate a game (e.g. the GF we had 129 rotations), but the cumulative impact of our defensive running game should not be underestimated. With large rotations each week, affording relatively low TOG% for our mids ... allowed us to keep sustaining our gameplan each week in 2013. Won't be so easy in 2014. I think we'll have to sacrifice the 69 points per game against for something like 75-80, and be more attacking.

 

[Clive Diablo]

I'd like to be as sure of winning lotto as I am that Menegola will not get a game next year.

So round 22 at Brisbane. Top 2 is locked in. still certain Menegola won't be getting a run?

 

[Purple Suit]

exactly! can anyone shed some light on why teams do this? I always assume it is to provide incentive (you score a goal you get some rest). But then, it kind of didn't make sense. When someone score a goal, they are probably doing something right (outplaying his direct opponent, kicking straight, running to the correct spots...) I thought the smart thing to do is to keep him on the field longer so he can continue to outplay his opponent, kick straight and stuff.

Is there a good strategic reason for the practice?

I've heard it's all to do with lactic acid build-up. The sports scientists have figured out that you can go longer and harder if you have a regular short rest. If you leave the player on the field, he might do a hammy later going at the same intensity or run out of puff. The ball might not go down there but you are risking their welfare by leaving him on.

Breaks in the game are the perfect opportunity to have interchanges etc so it is logical that it all happens after a goal, it still sucks when it is the goal kicker though.