Is political correctness stifling debate?

JackOutback

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Don’t know, you tell me?

You are one of the ones convinced this country is under imminent threat from a right wing Nazi putsch aren’t you?
I don't feel immediately at threat from the right or the left. There have been some slightly more concerning events from the extreme right in Australia though (given that your bogeymen from Antifa barely have a presence here).
 

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Do you agree with the white nationalist notion that certain races are more likely to commit violent crimes?
Or certain races are less able to integrate into other cultures?
I agree certain races are less able to integrate into other cultures. That much ought to be plainly obvious, I would of thought? The same would be true of Australians if we were to immigrate en masse to the Middle East, or into countries like Japan or South Korea.

I also believe that yes, certain races are more inclined to commit violent crimes, but I don’t believe that the reasons for this are nessecarily always purely ‘racial’ in nature.
 

CM86

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I agree certain races are less able to integrate into other cultures. That much ought to be plainly obvious, I would of thought? The same would be true of Australians if we were to immigrate en masse to the Middle East, or into countries like Japan or South Korea.

I also believe that yes, certain races are more inclined to commit violent crimes, but I don’t believe that the reasons for this are nessecarily always purely ‘racial’ in nature.
So you don't view those notions as racist at all, correct?

So what is something white nationalists support, that you do find racist?
 

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So you don't view those notions as racist at all, correct?

So what is something white nationalists support, that you do find racist?
Not playing your little smart arse ‘gotcha’ ******* word games dude. Just answer my post or don’t. Have a discussion or dont. Your call.
 

FireKraquora

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Do you agree with the white nationalist notion that certain races are more likely to commit violent crimes?
Or certain races are less able to integrate into other cultures?
These are not extremist views, but common sense views, proven by stats. Are you under the impression that the crime stats show every race are represented perfectly equally??

Racial hatred and violence are wrong. Acknowledging facts, however, should never be considered wrong.
 

CM86

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These are not extremist views, but common sense views, proven by stats. Are you under the impression that the crime stats show every race are represented perfectly equally??

Racial hatred and violence are wrong. Acknowledging facts, however, should never be considered wrong.
So the crime stats based on race should be equal in every part of the world, yes?

Or is crime more related to socioeconomic positions, than race?
Is it more related to trauma and education, than race?

What race, statistically, is the most prone to crime? (Facts only).
 

CM86

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Why don’t you confront your own belief system, you smug git?
You know that white nationalists are racist, and that racism is bad.
But your views are very similar to nationalists.


That's why you struggle to explain your beliefs. It's why you're angry at me trying to get you to specify why white nationalists are bad... outside of an umbrella term.

Why is it hard to answer?
 

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You know that white nationalists are racist, and that racism is bad.
But your views are very similar to nationalists.


That's why you struggle to explain your beliefs. It's why you're angry at me trying to get you to specify why white nationalists are bad... outside of an umbrella term.

Why is it hard to answer?
I don’t struggle to explain my beliefs.

You just can’t accept them. You expect anyone who expresses concern over Islam to simply be a far right nutjob with a shaved head, or a smarmy, buttoned down, white collar git like Richard Spencer.

The majority of this country, and the west, outside the little socially relativist progressive echo chambers inhabited by the likes of you, shares my views, which are simple.

We want a home and a country that is ours to pass on to our children, where we are able to live our lives without being labelled infidels by new arrivals, who refuse to assimilate, who attack us and who despise us and our system of democracy, whilst being only too happy to suckle on the teet of our social safety net.

These are basic human responses and feelings from a people who feel under threat and not supported by its elected leaders and officials, not racist rhetoric.

The sooner you come to terms with this, the better.
 

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We want a home and a country that is ours to pass on to our children, where we are able to live our lives without being labelled infidels by new arrivals, who refuse to assimilate, who attack us and who despise us and our system of democracy, whilst being only too happy to suckle on the teet of our social safety net.

These are basic human responses and feelings from a people who feel under threat and not supported by its elected leaders and officials, not racist rhetoric.

The sooner you come to terms with this, the better.
This is the worst kind of identity politics. Don't speak as a 'we'. You speak for a bigoted, petrified and uninformed minority.
 

CM86

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We want a home and a country that is ours to pass on to our children, where we are able to live our lives without being labelled infidels by new arrivals, who refuse to assimilate, who attack us and who despise us and our system of democracy, whilst being only too happy to suckle on the teet of our social safety net.
What facts do you base this on?

Because it reads like the Great Replacement conspiracy that I was discussing in another thread...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Replacement

If your concern is a home and country to pass on to your children, you should be arguing for the environment, climate change, renewable energy etc.
Not some unnamed collective that you believe is going to take away your home and country...
 

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That's not going to happen, no matter how much you fantasise about.

And don't pretend you don't want it to. It's not going to happen, so you'll have to find some other deeper meaning for your life.
One other thing Stuchbery.

We aren’t petrified of you.

We loathe you.

Huge difference.
 

EasternTiger

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I don’t struggle to explain my beliefs.

You just can’t accept them. You expect anyone who expresses concern over Islam to simply be a far right nutjob with a shaved head, or a smarmy, buttoned down, white collar git like Richard Spencer.

The majority of this country, and the west, outside the little socially relativist progressive echo chambers inhabited by the likes of you, shares my views, which are simple.

We want a home and a country that is ours to pass on to our children, where we are able to live our lives without being labelled infidels by new arrivals, who refuse to assimilate, who attack us and who despise us and our system of democracy, whilst being only too happy to suckle on the teet of our social safety net.

These are basic human responses and feelings from a people who feel under threat and not supported by its elected leaders and officials, not racist rhetoric.

The sooner you come to terms with this, the better.
Correct.

And the last line of your post 'The sooner you come to terms with this, the better' is why the Liberal party is in power.

They will never come to terms with it, therefore they will not be allowed to govern the country.

We the people will never allow the lunatic left to be anything more than background noise.
 

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Correct.

And the last line of your post 'The sooner you come to terms with this, the better' is why the Liberal party is in power.

They will never come to terms with it, therefore they will not be allowed to govern the country.

We the people will never allow the lunatic left to be anything more than background noise.
That's getting a bit Fukiyama.
 
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