Mid East Israel declare war after Hamas attack III

[Chief]

Continued in Part IV

Mid East - Israel declare war after Hamas attack IV - UN Report: Israel is an Apartheid state. Probable Case of Genocide

Continued from Part III https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/israel-declare-war-after-hamas-attack-iii.1381570/ Original Post, October 7, 2023: Israel declares state of war In response to the attacks, which appear to have caught the Israel Defence Forces (IDF) by surprise, Israel has...

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[Markfs]

They are not going anywhere, leaving Gaza will be giving Israel exactly what it wants

You must be new to the planet....we're actually operating in an environment where israel gets whatever it wants. It has the backing of the USA which is run by AIPAC. There are a couple of relatively weak voices whining about the women and children getting killed in gaza but most of them are under the US thumb on defence and economic matters. The area around gaza is filled by countries looking for deals with the US, so they wont cause any problems. The US is headed by a guy called Trump who was paid off by Israeli/jewish lobby interests, so he knows his place. I hope that gets you up to speed.

 

[Markfs]

The Jewish Council of Australia?

Run by secular leftists not representative of most Jewish people who, in some way shape or form, support Zionism even if not the current Israeli leadership (I myself hate Bibi and Likud). The JCA are like the monarchists in November 1999 who said "constitutional change should unite us not divide us" -- they seem to be saying that you should oppose Zionism because the secular left widely does not instead of deciding for yourself.

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exactly. JCA = small minority. Most jews are either liberal zionists who basically want extensions to israel including west bank, golan, southern leb, to achieve the promised land, but dont necessarily want the murders....and the hardline zionists who are running the show. I dont believe that they see it as their purpose, but the JCA suits the zionists by presenting the idea that at least a few jews support a 2 state solution.

 

[Harlott]

Local underground resistance to Tehran style regimes are brutally crushed the moment they are seen to be a real threat. Pacifism is ultimately incompetent as most non-violence resistance fails.

(and 50 thousand out of 2.1 million is a heavy death toll but not a genocide).

International humanitarian organisations, various Israeli scholars, UN etc - genocide

Israel regime , BF expert - not genocide

 

[Angak]

 

[Johnny_Dogg4]

 

[schneebly111]

Humanitarian orgs - controlled by secular leftist intellectuals -- the same mob who also created "Queers for Palestine" (see also: Muslims for Trump).

UN agencies - controlled by Global South countries that make the worst of Likud look like Mister Rogers.

Most members of the ANC are also members of South Africa's communist party - behind Brazil's the largest non-parliamentary communist party around the globe.

I trust the UN and the overwhelming majority of international lawyers vs a few on the other side all connected to Zionist movements or the Trump Administration.

 

[nut]

And for those not sure what the war is about….. oil.

 

[schneebly111]

I’ve been saying this is Iran’s MAD for years now. They can close the Strait and send the global economy into a depression.

Cooler heads need to prevail on both sides

 

[Crankyhawk]

exactly. JCA = small minority. Most jews are either liberal zionists who basically want extensions to israel including west bank, golan, southern leb, to achieve the promised land, but dont necessarily want the murders....and the hardline zionists who are running the show. I dont believe that they see it as their purpose, but the JCA suits the zionists by presenting the idea that at least a few jews support a 2 state solution.

Any ****er who believes their country should expand should be fed into fire. There is no religious exceptionalism. Burn them all

 

[Markfs]

Any ****er who believes their country should expand should be fed into fire. There is no religious exceptionalism. Burn them all

I hope that you'll enjoy your jail time...

 

[Chief]

Some things are simple when you have the gutts to say it...

Getting a bit weird there.

 

[_Mike_]

You must be new to the planet....we're actually operating in an environment where israel gets whatever it wants.

Yet after all these decades that have passed since WW2 and the change of the borders the Palestinians are still there. Israel haven’t gotten their way even when the PLO & Arafat were around

Egypt won’t take them because they’re damned if they do, damned if they don’t. Why hasn’t Iran or Lebanon taken them. Iran has no interest in pleasing Trump.

Muslim countries won’t uproot Palestinians as they’d be seen to supporting Israel’s agenda.

Who else will take 2million Palestinians?

 

[schneebly111]

Egypt won’t take them because they’re damned if they do, damned if they don’t. Why hasn’t Iran or Lebanon taken them. Iran has no interest in pleasing Trump.

Muslim countries won’t uproot Palestinians as they’d be seen to supporting Israel’s agenda.

Who else will take 2million Palestinians?

I hate that talking point. “Palestinians are so hated not even Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Saudi, no one will take them!”

They won’t take them because they are Palestinians whose home is Palestine. Palestinians are a people and culture who have their own dialectic, cuisine, literature, poetry, music and sport. They can’t just be moved like cattle.

To say otherwise is just racist.

 

[blackcat]

Chris Hedges the war correspondent and theologian said it is WRONG to assess Israel as one of one , and he is a strident critic , why does the West keep delivering ear materiEl , it cant merely be Eisenhower's MIC , would this make all in Western enabler countries complicit , since most re

Twas always about Iran

blackcat was right

cherf: bill is in the mail

read whitepapers from RAND and Brookings to get heads up , Brian Berletic @ New Atlas can be ur precis

 

[Harlott]

Humanitarian orgs - controlled by secular leftist intellectuals -- the same mob who also created "Queers for Palestine" (see also: Muslims for Trump).

UN agencies - controlled by Global South countries that make the worst of Likud look like Mister Rogers.

Most members of the ANC are also members of South Africa's communist party - behind Brazil's the largest non-parliamentary communist party around the globe.

Yeah sure. I trust you have some solid sources. And the the Israeli scholars? Self haters no doubt. But yeah let’s go with you.

 

[Harlott]

Are they sources?

 

[Harlott]

For proving that the "'Palestine' as a nation or administrative area existed before the Mandate and after the Roman era" propaganda the lie is it, yes.

**** knows how we’ve gone from genocide to this

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

Meanwhiile less food is going to Gaza and the starvation continues.

 

[Brick Loosener]

I hate that talking point. “Palestinians are so hated not even Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Saudi, no one will take them!”

They won’t take them because they are Palestinians whose home is Palestine. Palestinians are a people and culture who have their own dialectic, cuisine, literature, poetry, music and sport. They can’t just be moved like cattle.

To say otherwise is just racist.

They don't want their countries destabilised and used as a staging ground for attacks on Israel. That's the reason they won't take them. They've been burned before.

 

[Johnny_Dogg4]

 

[Johnny_Dogg4]

 

[Johnny_Dogg4]

 

[Crankyhawk]

I hope that you'll enjoy your jail time...

Will be worth it.

 

[Johnny_Dogg4]

 

[Number37]

Cheering for the Iranian regime when it kills it own children, sells weapons and expertise solely for the purpose of terror bombing innocent citizens in a third party. Regardless of the actions of the Israeli regime, reprehensible to be supporting the Iranian regime and outright cheering for them to kill more people is just horrid.

We are supposed to care about children getting killed.
And we're not supposed to cheer on a regime that will just ends up killing more people.

Really?

Rules for thee but not for me.