It really is amateur hour at the VAFA.

[Fish 20]

Interesting to note that while the Premier C-Div 4 finals have been moved around (times, matchdays, finals venues) at virtually the last minute, the Premier and Premier B finals are continuing at Sportscover Arena regardless of the state of the ground and the weather conditions.

Yeah I wonder if the 7 teams in each section/division not playing finals are saying "Gee lucky we're not playing finals this week, who wants to play finals on those grounds & on a Sunday,yeah stick finals up your ass!"

 

[Over The Post]

Bagging umpires, just ok, but to report across the media that they traditionally favor some clubs over others, I would have thought your fraternity would be up in arms OTP.

'VAFA director of umpiring Brian Goodman dismissed this.
"That's the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard," he said.
"One of our umpiring coaches was there and he thought the umpiring was excellent," Goodman added.'



Already dealt with adequately by the real BrianSpeaking.

Note to Beauy: don't give away frees in the forward 50.

 

[Plumber49]

'VAFA director of umpiring Brian Goodman dismissed this.
"That's the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard," he said.
"One of our umpiring coaches was there and he thought the umpiring was excellent," Goodman added.'



Already dealt with adequately by the real BrianSpeaking.

Note to Beauy: don't give away frees in the forward 50.

I'm not sure which of the following aspects is more laughable -
· The fact that if Benny said the umpiring was excellent then it must have been - he doesn't have a vested interest at all and has been open and honest about the standard of umpiring for years now......
· The fact that a district club would push the line that they get a rough run compared to old boys clubs - way to go if you want to entrench the chip on the shoulder attitude in the comp! By what I’ve seen with my own eyes a few of the umps must think my beloved SKOB is a district club…..

 

[Jascave]

Yeah I wonder if the 7 teams in each section/division not playing finals are saying "Gee lucky we're not playing finals this week, who wants to play finals on those grounds & on a Sunday,yeah stick finals up your ass!"

Say if you're the coach of a Div 3 finals team. Once you've known where the finals are at (at this early stage ie Round 10) apart from your usual training session at your home ground, your team also trains at the finals venue that the VAFA were going to held it at, so that the players would get used to the ground & wind factors (important for the forwards for goalkicking) while at the same time, the club books tickets and its supporters make plans accordingly. Then, everything changes. The VAFA changes not only the venue at the last minute, but also the matchday as well. How would you handle this situation?

 

[Letterman]

'VAFA director of umpiring Brian Goodman dismissed this.
"That's the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard," he said.
"One of our umpiring coaches was there and he thought the umpiring was excellent," Goodman added.'



Already dealt with adequately by the real BrianSpeaking.

Note to Beauy: don't give away frees in the forward 50.

Yeah, just thought the overall 'Integrity' Factor of the statement went beyond any throw away line from Benny, especially as it was reported in the major newspaper.

But if your fraternity are all ok with these types of statements in the media, then who are we to query.

 

[Privateye]

The Division 3 Preliminary Final has been moved to Edinbugh Reserve in Springvale... uncovered concrete (carpet top) cricket pitch running through the middle!

Clubs notified today (Thursday) 3 days before the game!

This is a game that determines who gets promoted and who plays in a Grand Final.

Injury and risk issues not considered by the VAFA before making this ridiculous decision.

The treatment of these clubs is insulting, appalling and embarassing.

Are they serious??

Is that for real, there is a cricket pitch in the middle of the ground?

 

[the ox1]

Have the VAFA ever thought or tried of getting Access to Moorabin where St.Kilda are based? Beleive there vacating that property in the coming years anyway. Much better surface and facilities then Sportscover and fairly central? $$$ May be an issue but I was made to pay entry 3 times at 3 different venues over the weekend.

 

[Dr Truth]

Yeah, just thought the overall 'Integrity' Factor of the statement went beyond any throw away line from Benny, especially as it was reported in the major newspaper.

But if your fraternity are all ok with these types of statements in the media, then who are we to query.

Should Ajax be worried about Beauy being favoured by umpires this week?

Would anticipate ammos have Sunday pencilled in as Grand Final date. If Ajax get through, put your house on it..

 

[Birdie Num Num]

Have the VAFA ever thought or tried of getting Access to Moorabin where St.Kilda are based? Beleive there vacating that property in the coming years anyway. Much better surface and facilities then Sportscover and fairly central? $$$ May be an issue but I was made to pay entry 3 times at 3 different venues over the weekend.

Not even Old Haileybury can get on it to have the odd training session with their contacts of Harvey, Loewe, Shanahan, Voss, Dwyer & Brown. The President even had sons went to Haileybury!
I cant see the VAFA getting hold of it.

The comments from people directed towards the VAFA are uninformed. Grounds are hard to secure as the councils are thinking about cricket (drive past McKinnon and have a look if you want one example) and reluctant in many cases to continue footy in September. The schools are not keen to let people come into their premises who are unrelated to the participants.

I feel for the VAFA as it would not be easy and to to take pot shots is easy on an anonymous forum.

 

[superfreak]

Have the VAFA ever thought or tried of getting Access to Moorabin where St.Kilda are based? Beleive there vacating that property in the coming years anyway. Much better surface and facilities then Sportscover and fairly central? $$$ May be an issue but I was made to pay entry 3 times at 3 different venues over the weekend.

The SFL is a tenant at Moorabbin and they get first dibs on possible fixturing there if available.

It would be like the SFL trying to hold finals at EP....not going to happen!

 

[the ox1]

The SFL is a tenant at Moorabbin and they get first dibs on possible fixturing there if available.

It would be like the SFL trying to hold finals at EP....not going to happen!

I thought this might of been the case but wasnt sure.
The surface at EP wasnt that bad on the weekend. The only real problem i have with Elsty is the lack of wind cover, the ground is awfully open.

 

[bedford]

Not even Old Haileybury can get on it to have the odd training session with their contacts of Harvey, Loewe, Shanahan, Voss, Dwyer & Brown. The President even had sons went to Haileybury!
I cant see the VAFA getting hold of it.

The comments from people directed towards the VAFA are uninformed. Grounds are hard to secure as the councils are thinking about cricket (drive past McKinnon and have a look if you want one example) and reluctant in many cases to continue footy in September. The schools are not keen to let people come into their premises who are unrelated to the participants.

I feel for the VAFA as it would not be easy and to to take pot shots is easy on an anonymous forum.

no ones taking potshots, common sence would have left C on Saturdays.

 

[Wholesome Harry]

I think Mr Bulla might be putting the spotlight on Benny to ensure suitable umpires are appointed this week. Ron may have seen first hand what happens when umpires that are too close to teams (friends) are selected to umpire finals games. Ron has a few friends friends down Mentone way i suggest.
just a thought

 

[Plumber49]

Not even Old Haileybury can get on it to have the odd training session with their contacts of Harvey, Loewe, Shanahan, Voss, Dwyer & Brown. The President even had sons went to Haileybury!
I cant see the VAFA getting hold of it.

The comments from people directed towards the VAFA are uninformed. Grounds are hard to secure as the councils are thinking about cricket (drive past McKinnon and have a look if you want one example) and reluctant in many cases to continue footy in September. The schools are not keen to let people come into their premises who are unrelated to the participants.

I feel for the VAFA as it would npot be easy and to to take pot shots is easy on an anonymous forum.

You are right that it is easy to throw stones BNN but don’t get me wrong on this – this is not an attack on the army of people who give of their time and with a level of commitment at club level that is above and beyond what can be expected. These people are beyond reproach and should be treated as scared IMO!

My gripe is with the VAFA executive. They (VAFA) are a paid organisation funded by the playing clubs (the membership if you will) and as that is the case the playing clubs have every right to expect that the VAFA perform their duties professionally and with to a level fitting the largest and one of the oldest comps in the land. If we can’t hold them to that then who does have that right?? Like a company with 74 shareholders they escape a lot of warranted criticism because clubs don’t form a collective voice to make their feeling known.

An analogy might be the difference between St John’s ambulance volunteers and your local medical centre – you can rightfully expect a different level of expertise between one and the other!

In addition to that the VAFA have the advantage of being able to represent the great VAFA community and that will get you more pull then a single club pushing its barrow. It is for that reason as much as any that we should be more critical of them then not as they have a responsibility to represent us all in getting the best for our comp and they clearly don’t in my opinion! This extends to a raft of things including a better relationship with the Vic Government, the AFL, Football Victoria and other bodies to try and attract better players, better resources, better coverage, better sponsorship – the lot!!

And I don’t think we get great bang for our buck….

 

[Plumber49]

Not even Old Haileybury can get on it to have the odd training session with their contacts of Harvey, Loewe, Shanahan, Voss, Dwyer & Brown. The President even had sons went to Haileybury!
I cant see the VAFA getting hold of it.

The comments from people directed towards the VAFA are uninformed. Grounds are hard to secure as the councils are thinking about cricket (drive past McKinnon and have a look if you want one example) and reluctant in many cases to continue footy in September. The schools are not keen to let people come into their premises who are unrelated to the participants.

I feel for the VAFA as it would not be easy and to to take pot shots is easy on an anonymous forum.

Oh, and finals happen every year about this time so its not as though its a sudden surprise or uncommon occurance that we find ourselves in this situation.....

 

[power20]

Has anyone put this foward yet? Might explain a few things.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/venue-strain-for-ammos/story-fn53khnc-1225909993011

 

[Ron Jeremy 69]

Not even Old Haileybury can get on it to have the odd training session with their contacts of Harvey, Loewe, Shanahan, Voss, Dwyer & Brown. The President even had sons went to Haileybury!
I cant see the VAFA getting hold of it.

The comments from people directed towards the VAFA are uninformed. Grounds are hard to secure as the councils are thinking about cricket (drive past McKinnon and have a look if you want one example) and reluctant in many cases to continue footy in September. The schools are not keen to let people come into their premises who are unrelated to the participants.

I feel for the VAFA as it would not be easy and to to take pot shots is easy on an anonymous forum.

Well, excuse me for having an opinion! How dare we! You are equally having your anonymous opinion, num nuts.
As I said in the OP, I know of several EFL/SFL clubd with access and they weren't approached. It wasn't as if the wet winter just happended in the last month!
Save the high moral ground stuff for church on Sunday. It is a stuff up!

 

[Jascave]

With the torrential rain heading our way over the next 24 hours, it'll be interesting to see what sort of back-up plan the VAFA has in mind after the weekend with all the heavy rainfall and the possibility of some grounds being unavaliable, when they attempt to book grounds for the Premier C-Div 4 grand finals-however no such problems for the teams who are in the Premier and Premier B preliminary finals next week-they're at Sportscover Arena.

 

[BrianSpeaking]

'VAFA director of umpiring Brian Goodman dismissed this.
"That's the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard," he said.
"One of our umpiring coaches was there and he thought the umpiring was excellent," Goodman added.'



Already dealt with adequately by the real BrianSpeaking.

Note to Beauy: don't give away frees in the forward 50.

Love your work OTP although this Goodman chap is an imposter, also known as 'Benny'!

What a joke, Melbourne's population growth given as a reason? I've heard it all now.

 

[Over The Post]

The fact that if Benny said the umpiring was excellent then it must have been - he doesn't have a vested interest at all and has been open and honest about the standard of umpiring for years now......

No, the guy observing the umpires said it was excellent. I don't think you're privy to the half time and after-game and Tuesday/Thursday post mortems - the observers are a damn sight more critical than most players and supporters, with the added spice of generally knowing what they are talking about and having the video to back it up.

Agree with the chip on the shoulder comments. Utter garbage and a waste of time. If a coach wants to whinge about district vs ob clubs, he should spend some time coaching his players to get to the contest first, get their heads over the ball, and don't do anything stupid, ill-disciplined or sloppy in the contests and he'll be amazed how the free kick count swings in his teams favour.

 

[Letterman]

No, the guy observing the umpires said it was excellent. I don't think you're privy to the half time and after-game and Tuesday/Thursday post mortems - the observers are a damn sight more critical than most players and supporters, with the added spice of generally knowing what they are talking about and having the video to back it up.

Agree with the chip on the shoulder comments. Utter garbage and a waste of time. If a coach wants to whinge about district vs ob clubs, he should spend some time coaching his players to get to the contest first, get their heads over the ball, and don't do anything stupid, ill-disciplined or sloppy in the contests and he'll be amazed how the free kick count swings in his teams favour.

OTP, with all respect it was not the coach, if you read the article it was the President, which is why I'm surprised nothing forthcoming.

 

[Over The Post]

My apologies. The president should lean on his coach to spend some time coaching his players to get to the contest first ... etc.

It's possibly been lost in the noise, HQ have kind of had their hands full with grounds being pulled and so forth.