J-Pod

[Freo Shark]

Bottom line is you dont rest on your laurels if you can improve your list - you do as the Hawks did.

 

[Taylor]

The lack of composure comment was in relation to the handful of set shots missed by our team.

If we had not missed those shots it wouldn't have mattered that Lake was mopping everything up across our half forward line. Fyfe was 12.1 then kicked two out on the full. At least two more shanks from pressure followed. We lost by 15 points. That third quarter burst should have put us 30 points up going into the fourth.

 

[yoong]

JPod is not the full answer. But I am sick of our endless kicks high into the forward 50 to be intercepted by the opposition tall. Yes, Mayne and Walters take spectacular marks from these now and then, but these inside 50s are generally wasted.

JPod will fill a gap while we search for an answer. He may also mentor and guide our young forwards to take over eventually.
Its too late if we want to pick and groom a long term KPF from the draft now. Unless we are not interested in Pavilich, McPharlin and Sandilands winning a flag.

 

[DudleyDocker]

Really?

I have two issues with those posts.

1. That the game was lost because of lack of composure. The game was lost for similar reasons Fremantle has lost games despite fielding close to their best 22 over the past few years - breaking down across half forward. A key defender taking intercept marks had a field day against Fremantle in the GF. I would not call this composure, I would call that a structural deficiency.

2. That a combination of "Keplar, Griffin, Clarke, Sandilands, Hanath, Tabener, Mora (maybe)" is a workable solution. Three of those are coming off knee recos. Those without serious injury, three are ruckmen that have never shown themselves capable at kicking goals. The last of that lot is a rookie listed key forward. I would like him to come good - I would also like some insurance in case he doesn't. IMO Podsiadly in 2014 is better than all of those options.

It's not simply about scrambling enough wins to make top four - Fremantle did that this year. It's about having a team good enough to win on grand final day. The deficiencies are fairly obvious if you reflect on all the games Fremantle lost in 2013. They were highlighted in the GF. Don't rectify them = struggle to win it next year.

It IS lack of composure when your gun forwards miss repeated simple shots at goal at crucial times. Count the number of outright shanks from Fyfe, Mayne, Ballantyne, Pavlich, Walters, Pearce and WE LOST BY 15 POINTS.

 

[holy diver]

May actually be a chance of this happening.

FORWARDS James Podsiadly and Scott Gumbleton are both in the frame to join Fremantle, says football manager Chris Bond.

Speaking on AFL.com.au's Gillette Trade Radio, Bond said the Dockers were acutely aware they had to address their lack of quality talls, and both players were firmly in their sights.

Bond said Fremantle had not ruled out trading for both key forwards.

 

[Danny Cullen]

May actually be a chance of this happening.

Which one of those is more suited to CHF, allowing Pav to plonk himself closer to goal?

 

[jedi mind tricks]

JPod is not the full answer. But I am sick of our endless kicks high into the forward 50 to be intercepted by the opposition tall. Yes, Mayne and Walters take spectacular marks from these now and then, but these inside 50s are generally wasted.

JPod will fill a gap while we search for an answer. He may also mentor and guide our young forwards to take over eventually.
Its too late if we want to pick and groom a long term KPF from the draft now. Unless we are not interested in Pavilich, McPharlin and Sandilands winning a flag.

Freo can get J Pod for free and land another Kpp in the Draft ie McCarthy (fingers crossed).

Pod the filler for a year or two then McCarthy and or Tabs to step up after that.

 

[arrow_dactyl]

JPod will fill a gap while we search for an answer. He may also mentor and guide our young forwards to take over eventually.
Its too late if we want to pick and groom a long term KPF from the draft now. Unless we are not interested in Pavilich, McPharlin and Sandilands winning a flag.

Agreed if nothing else he can help Taberner, Bradley etc improve their contested marking game as that is one of the weaknesses at the club as a whole for our key forwards, even Pav

 

[Andy_demestos]

Is it too early for me to start my "Fyfe to Jpod" alias?

 

[clogged]

The lack of composure comment was in relation to the handful of set shots missed by our team.

If we had not missed those shots it wouldn't have mattered that Lake was mopping everything up across our half forward line. Fyfe was 12.1 then kicked two out on the full. At least two more shanks from pressure followed. We lost by 15 points. That third quarter burst should have put us 30 points up going into the fourth.

In grand finals teams often find that games don't go their way. The pressure of a grand final means that any mistakes are amplified and structures begin to break down as the team scrambles to rectify those mistakes. Every time a Fremantle player missed a goal the scramble to get the next goal became more desperate. Where was the safe, get out tall option inside 50? Pavlich ... and? It's not as if Hawthorn didn't feel the same pressure (they kicked 11.11!) - but they had numerous options available inside 50.

Hawthorn lacked composure in front of goal in 2012. Except they didn't, what they actually lacked was a key defender that could read the play and be used as a one-on-one defender if needed. They had lacked this for years since Croad went down and finally got it in Lake. Part of what prevented them from winning another premiership (as well as lack of pace, which was exposed by Fremantle in 2010, and something they since recruited for).

In terms of goals contributed and accuracy, Pavlich was the second best forward on the day, and Hawthorn had three tall forwards to Fremantle's one. I can only imagine that if that numerical advantage Hawthorn's way was tilted slightly back in Fremantle's favour (one extra tall option for Freo), Fremantle would have won, and could still have been as inaccurate as they were.

Fact of the matter is, Hawthorn looked at why they lost in 2012 and didn't settle on the fact they had 26 scoring shots to Sydney's 21 and assumed they would be better for it next year. They recruited to fix the glaring structural flaws in their best 22.

 

[Tazmania]

It IS lack of composure when your gun forwards miss repeated simple shots at goal at crucial times. Count the number of outright shanks from Fyfe, Mayne, Ballantyne, Pavlich, Walters, Pearce and WE LOST BY 15 POINTS.

There was a definite lack of composure on the day but that doesn't mean we can't be stronger and we all know the a key forward will only make us stronger and have more efficient use of the inside 50's that the team generates. If we can get a key forward to provide an alternate target so Pav doesn't have two on ones all day, who can coach the forward line whilst he's out there, help develop the young guys on his days off and help out with the sports science if he really gets bored...all for a spot on the list....then why the hell not?

 

[caterina]

Pods, Gumby and Ellis in the one interview, Bond is having a lend

 

[FreoGirl]

Pods, Gumby and Ellis in the one interview, Bond is having a lend

I'm just glad he further confirmed Fyfe was staying put

 

[clogged]

It IS lack of composure when your gun forwards miss repeated simple shots at goal at crucial times. Count the number of outright shanks from Fyfe, Mayne, Ballantyne, Pavlich, Walters, Pearce and WE LOST BY 15 POINTS.

As I said before, did Hawthorn look at 2012 and decide that they only lost because of lack of composure? They kicked themselves out of the 2012 premiership far more than Fremantle did in 2013.

Or did they look at the flaws they had in their best 22 and decide to rectify them? The gulf between Fremantle and the premier is large enough to suggest that more changes are needed.

There are obvious flaws in Fremantle's best 22. Adding composure does not win the 2014 premiership.

 

[Reginald Perrin]

Is it too early for me to start my "Fyfe to Jpod" alias?

It was too early for you to start your Andy_demestos alias.

 

[caterina]

As I said before, did Hawthorn look at 2012 and decide that they only lost because of lack of composure? They kicked themselves out of the 2012 premiership far more than Fremantle did in 2013.

Or did they look at the flaws they had in their best 22 and decide to rectify them? The gulf between Fremantle and the premier is large enough to suggest that more changes are needed.

There are obvious flaws in Fremantle's best 22. Adding composure does not win the 2014 premiership.

I agree with what you are saying, we need to be bold and changes are needed.
But part of the gap will close because Hawthorn are coming back the other way, lost three of their GF team already.

 

[clogged]

I agree with what you are saying, we need to be bold and changes are needed.
But part of the gap will close because Hawthorn are coming back the other way, lost three of their GF team already.

Others will rise though. Sydney for one.

Ultimately any decision rests on two things: Is the core of the side strong enough to go deep in finals? And, is the side covered for all game day eventualities in a grand final?

Definite yes to the first. The second so far is a no. Two weaknesses - goal kicking mid (Sylvia) and key position player.

 

[caterina]

Others will rise though. Sydney for one.

Ultimately any decision rests on two things: Is the core of the side strong enough to go deep in finals? And, is the side covered for all game day eventualities in a grand final?

Definite yes to the first. The second so far is a no. Two weaknesses - goal kicking mid (Sylvia) and key position player.

Has to be a KPP that demands respect though, otherwise Lake types just zone off them. Does Pods make the grade?

 

[mike91]

It IS lack of composure when your gun forwards miss repeated simple shots at goal at crucial times. Count the number of outright shanks from Fyfe, Mayne, Ballantyne, Pavlich, Walters, Pearce and WE LOST BY 15 POINTS.

Now you're just being stupid.

 

[mike91]

I'm just glad he further confirmed Fyfe was staying put

But nothing was said about Sam Reid

 

[holy diver]

Is it too early for me to start my "Fyfe to Jpod" alias?

Fyfe2Pods has a good ring to it.

 

[holy diver]

It was too early for you to start your Andy_demestos alias.

Come on Reg - there are so many alias's on this board it's a shining example of online natural selection.

 

[stormee]

Fyfe2Pods has a good ring to it.

I am going to register my JPOD DOCK alias.

 

[freodocker5]

Really?

I have two issues with those posts.

1. That the game was lost because of lack of composure. The game was lost for similar reasons Fremantle has lost games despite fielding close to their best 22 over the past few years - breaking down across half forward. A key defender taking intercept marks had a field day against Fremantle in the GF. I would not call this composure, I would call that a structural deficiency.

2. That a combination of "Keplar, Griffin, Clarke, Sandilands, Hanath, Tabener, Mora (maybe)" is a workable solution. Three of those are coming off knee recos. Those without serious injury, three are ruckmen that have never shown themselves capable at kicking goals. The last of that lot is a rookie listed key forward. I would like him to come good - I would also like some insurance in case he doesn't. IMO Podsiadly in 2014 is better than all of those options.

It's not simply about scrambling enough wins to make top four - Fremantle did that this year. It's about having a team good enough to win on grand final day. The deficiencies are fairly obvious if you reflect on all the games Fremantle lost in 2013. They were highlighted in the GF. Don't rectify them = struggle to win it next year.

You are defiantly correct about breaking down on the HFFs. But I am not sure pod is the man to solve the problem. I think the league has him worked out. He didn't get a goal in the last 4 games this year, he certainly didn't have nearly as good a year as previous ones. I think we should do all we can to get gumby, pod is too washed up and I dont think he is our answer.

Also, kewdawg is coming back. I know he isnt great but I reckon he would be just as good as Pod. Id rather go for the younger gumbleton which could help us in future with a tabernar gumby combination becoming our future forward line (pretty grim)

 

[Purple Jesus]

Headline for AFL.com "J Pod Docks at Fremantle".

You're welcome.