Recommitted Jacob Hopper [re-signed]

[Colonial]

Nakia would know

Unfortunately its a very strong highly likely rumour

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[Son_Of_God29]

Rumour is he wants out and wants Geelong.

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I have heard this as well but Hopper will be packaged with Dev Smith - to allow Kelly to sign a long term deal

2017 2nd Round + 2018 1st Round - would that interest GWS

 

[Colonial]

I have heard this as well but Hopper will be packaged with Dev Smith - to allow Kelly to sign a long term deal

2017 2nd Round + 2018 1st Round - would that interest GWS

Only heard Hopper.

Heard Dev is keen to stay and along with Bam will sign with us.

No idea about Kelly

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[citizen-erased]

I'm very very sorry but Hop's won't be going to essendon because he's scared of needle's

That's good then. Coz id be surprised if we even let flu shots anywhere near the club for the foreseeable future

 

[citizen-erased]

I have heard this as well but Hopper will be packaged with Dev Smith - to allow Kelly to sign a long term deal

2017 2nd Round + 2018 1st Round - would that interest GWS

Would need to be 2x 1sts at a min.
Both worth one each.

 

[Son_Of_God29]

Would need to be 2x 1sts at a min.
Both worth one each.

Thats Way overs for both

 

[Snookers]

Thats Way overs for both

Strangely I tend to agree.

 

[eth-dog]

Thats Way overs for both

Nah, not really

 

[Son_Of_God29]

Nah, not really

We will have to agree to disagree and find out in trade period

 

[citizen-erased]

We will have to agree to disagree and find out in trade period

Im all for getting Hopper for a 2nd round pick.

 

[yoodooright]

So potentially Geelong is looking at Hopper, Smith, and Ablett coming into the side for 2018. If they can pull that off with the commodities they have I will be awestruck.

 

[citizen-erased]

So potentially Geelong is looking at Hopper, Smith, and Ablett coming into the side for 2018. If they can pull that off with the commodities they have I will be awestruck.

they got Dangerfield for a 1st & 2nd and some change, all because they dealt a 1st for Henderson first
Nothing would surprise me when it comes to geelong.

 

[MotleyLemon]

So potentially Geelong is looking at Hopper, Smith, and Ablett coming into the side for 2018. If they can pull that off with the commodities they have I will be awestruck.

Me also.

Only way I see it happening is Carlton's 2nd we got in the Touhy deal, Motlop compo, and then our 2018 first?

EDIT: That's for Smith and Hopper, god knows how the Ablett trade will unfold.

EDIT EDIT: accidental pun re Ablett and god knows.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

So potentially Geelong is looking at Hopper, Smith, and Ablett coming into the side for 2018. If they can pull that off with the commodities they have I will be awestruck.

Remember the year when we grabbed all of Dangerfield, Henderson, Selwood and Smith and most people said we couldn't get it done?

Ablett for a late pick.
Hopper for Carlton's second round pick.
Smith for next years first round pick.

 

[yoodooright]

Me also.

Only way I see it happening is Carlton's 2nd we got in the Touhy deal, Motlop compo, and then our 2018 first?

EDIT: That's for Smith and Hopper, god knows how the Ablett trade will unfold.

EDIT EDIT: accidental pun re Ablett and god knows.

But its a twofold problem - not only what they will have to give up but also how they can possible manage the cap. Motlop has to go - but no idea what he would be on. $450 k reasonable? Maybe Menzel goes too? I can't imagine Lonergan and Mackie would be on all that much?

 

[yoodooright]

Remember the year when we grabbed all of Dangerfield, Henderson, Selwood and Smith and most people said we couldn't get it done?

Ablett for a late pick.
Hopper for Carlton's second round pick.
Smith for next years first round pick.

Certainly not saying it won't happen. I'll just be in awe of the club if they manage to pull it together. It will be truly incredible, especially considering the last couple of trade periods.

 

[MotleyLemon]

But its a twofold problem - not only what they will have to give up but also how they can possible manage the cap. Motlop has to go - but no idea what he would be on. $450 k reasonable? Maybe Menzel goes too? I can't imagine Lonergan and Mackie would be on all that much?

Suspect Motlop might be on $550k-ish at present.

Lonergan will go, I'd think, Mackie might get one more year. They wouldn't be on much anyway.

Hard to see Menzel leaving.

Cap is going up by $2 million though. Smith probably gets similar to Motlop, Hopper around the same, still a fair whack left for GAJ.

 

[eth-dog]

Remember the year when we grabbed all of Dangerfield, Henderson, Selwood and Smith and most people said we couldn't get it done?

Ablett for a late pick.
Hopper for Carlton's second round pick.
Smith for next years first round pick.

Ablett for Kolodjashnij I'd have thought

 

[MotleyLemon]

Ablett for Kolodjashnij I'd have thought

Wouldn't have thought so.

 

[yoodooright]

Ablett for Kolodjashnij I'd have thought

No way in hell geelong would do that.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Ablett for Kolodjashnij I'd have thought

Kolodjashnij is about to re-sign and we're not about to exchange a promising young defender for a player who has shoulder issues and who has 2 years left in the game.

Ablett is coming for $400,000 a year and for Gold Coast it gets his wage off their books and frees up more cash to give to May and Lynch who are their #1 priorities.

It'll be a 4th or 5th round pick that Gold Coast are unlikely to use.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

How do you get him without giving up a first, though? Surely you have to use your 2018 1st, considering you haven't had one the past 3 years

Rule doesnt kick in until 2019 so we can trade our 2018 1st. I woud imagine it will be the 2017 2nd we got from carlton (currently pick 21) +a 3rd/4th rounder or our 2018 1st instead of 2017 picks.

I am not as much a fan of it as some (i rate hopper but i dont think we need inside mids i would rather bolster the forward line) but it would be easy to do.

The reality is while trading a 1st rounder is a risk (as you are projecting where you will finish) if you consistently finish top 4 trading pick 15-20 is not a big deal as the probability o of getting a 100gamer there is not much different to pick 30-40 but it is with top 10 picks which is why clubs are more reluctant to trade them.

 

[tigerwill]

Kolodjashnij is about to re-sign and we're not about to exchange a promising young defender for a player who has shoulder issues and who has 2 years left in the game.

Ablett is coming for $400,000 a year and for Gold Coast it gets his wage off their books and frees up more cash to give to May and Lynch who are their #1 priorities.

It'll be a 4th or 5th round pick that Gold Coast are unlikely to use.

Just out of curiosity. Who pays the remainder of the Ablett GC contract? Can GC wipe out the whole $1million+ if they trade him to Geelong. Just the difference between his GC contract and what his new contract at Geelong is.Who absorbs the balance?
Is the contract just voided? I'm not sure.
I remember reading something about Buddy's contract at Sydney with the afl saying the contract will remain on their books for the duration even if Buddy retired earlier than the contract terms. Will this be similar?

 

[bird_man]

Just out of curiosity. Who pays the remainder of the Ablett GC contract? Can GC wipe out the whole $1million+ if they trade him to Geelong. Just the difference between his GC contract and what his new contract at Geelong is.Who absorbs the balance?
Is the contract just voided? I'm not sure.
I remember reading something about Buddy's contract at Sydney with the afl saying the contract will remain on their books for the duration even if Buddy retired earlier than the contract terms. Will this be similar?

No one pays it. Ablett asks to be traded and the contract gets torn up.

Ablett than signs a new contract with Geelong and loses a lot of money, but gets to go home.

 

[tigerwill]

No one pays it. Ablett asks to be traded and the contract gets torn up.

Ablett than signs a new contract with Geelong and loses a lot of money, but gets to go home.

Are you positive? I thought if there was an existing, ongoing contract that was calculated as part of that club's TPP. Less any "new" contract $s offered by the club he's traded to.