James Aish

Redleg Crow · Apr 26, 2015

Golumless said:
Kind of sounds like a certain situation with some guy named Tippett, boy was i glad we weren't the club who made that mistake.

But Tippett re-signed with us. Played 104 games.

Scorpus · Apr 26, 2015

Golumless said:
Kind of sounds like a certain situation with some guy named Tippett, boy was i glad we weren't the club who made that mistake.

Well we did manage to keep Tippett for 6 seasons...

Rusty Crow · Apr 26, 2015

From memory he told them he would leave first chance he got before they drafted him and they drafted him hoping their culture could get him to change his mind.

Elder van Berlo · Apr 26, 2015

Rusty Crow said:
From memory he told them he would leave first chance he got before they drafted him and they drafted him hoping their culture could get him to change his mind.

Aish or Tippett?

Rusty Crow · Apr 26, 2015

Elder van Berlo said:
Aish or Tippett?

Aish

MRB37 · Apr 26, 2015

Redleg Crow said:
Aish clearly doesn't want to be in Brisbane. And to be honest my memory of draft day was not of a kid ecstatically happy about being drafted by the Lions. Surely clubs actually ask players (and do some digging) if they really want to play there? I know you can;t "draft tamper" by saying you won;t play for a certain club, but you get the feeling the Lions knew Aish didn't prefer to go to them but they hoped they'd win him over.

A lot of clubs probably are aware that players have preferences not to move interstate, but have a "once he gets here we'll convert them!" thought process going.

Sloan has never hid the fact that he was upset about having to leave Melbourne for Adelaide and now he (publically) loves the place. Then there's also guys like Rioli who made us aware he would leave for Melbourne as soon as he could if we drafted him and we didn't pick him (though I dunno if that was a deciding factor or not), so if Aish has said that to Brisbane and Brisbane picked him anyway, then surely they'd of known this was coming?

deeztreez · Apr 26, 2015

Roo Lives Again said:
I'm starting to wish we hadn't traded Bernie for this guy. I understand the rationale behind it but if M Crouch was that good why is he never in the team? He's had enough time already.

Hahahaha your a joke maker

Redleg Crow · Apr 26, 2015

MRB37 said:
A lot of clubs probably are aware that players have preferences not to move interstate, but have a "once he gets here we'll convert them!" thought process going.
Sloan has never hid the fact that he was upset about having to leave Melbourne for Adelaide and now he (publically) loves the place. Then there's also guys like Rioli who made us aware he would leave for Melbourne as soon as he could if we drafted him and we didn't pick him (though I dunno if that was a deciding factor or not), so if Aish has said that to Brisbane and Brisbane picked him anyway, then surely they'd of known this was coming?

Yep - which I think rather diminishes the whole "Aish is an ungrateful ...." line. The Lions took a risk, and clearly it has no paid off.

Golumless · Apr 26, 2015

Redleg Crow said:
But Tippett re-signed with us. Played 104 games.

Scorpus said:
Well we did manage to keep Tippett for 6 seasons...

I was referring to us resigning him when it was pretty clear he'd jump ship at the end of that contract

Redleg Crow · Apr 26, 2015

Golumless said:
I was referring to us resigning him when it was pretty clear he'd jump ship at the end of that contract

I don't mind our re-signing him then, even if we knew. I did mind the breaking of the rules in the process, though

RePete · Apr 26, 2015

Aish wanting to come home shouldn't affect his performance. When you walk out onto the field you want to play your best and take the game on. Seems to me he is having 2nd year blues, or simply isn't ready for AFL level yet. Maybe Vossy was able to get the best out of him and Leppo isn't reaching him. Maybe he has said he wants to come home and the coaches are neglecting & ignoring him.

Regardless, hope he keeps this form up, drives down his value for if he does want to come home.

headache1 · Apr 26, 2015

RePete said:
Aish wanting to come home shouldn't affect his performance. When you walk out onto the field you want to play your best and take the game on. Seems to me he is having 2nd year blues, or simply isn't ready for AFL level yet. Maybe Vossy was able to get the best out of him and Leppo isn't reaching him. Maybe he has said he wants to come home and the coaches are neglecting & ignoring him.

Regardless, hope he keeps this form up, drives down his value for if he does want to come home.

Leppitsch was Brisbane's senior coach last year as well.

Hollow Knight · Apr 26, 2015

RePete said:
Maybe Vossy was able to get the best out of him and Leppo isn't reaching him. Maybe he has said he wants to come home and the coaches are neglecting & ignoring him.

Voss never coached him.

Rusty Crow said:
From memory he told them he would leave first chance he got before they drafted him and they drafted him hoping their culture could get him to change his mind.

Eh? From memory? Memory of what?

Some weird fan fiction going on in here

Regardless, just take him and his manager. Hopefully he buys in, because if you can't give him what he feels he is entitled to, he wont.

Tail wagging the dog.

Eons · Apr 26, 2015

Rusty Crow said:
From memory he told them he would leave first chance he got before they drafted him and they drafted him hoping their culture could get him to change his mind.

That was what Wingard said to GWS.

We told Aish that we would have his throne waiting for him when he got off the plane, his gold plated sceptre with a roaring lion on top and the Aish family crest would be the new Lions logo.

Cleric · Apr 26, 2015

TheBrownDog said:
Voss never coached him.

Eh? From memory? Memory of what?

Some weird fan fiction going on in here Regardless, just take him and his manager. Hopefully he buys in, because if you can't give him what he feels he is entitled to, he wont.

Tail wagging the dog.

There was talk that Aish was a flight risk after his interviews? That was one of the reasons given for him sliding.
I think thats what he meant.

cotter101 · Apr 27, 2015

RePete said:
Aish wanting to come home shouldn't affect his performance. When you walk out onto the field you want to play your best and take the game on. Seems to me he is having 2nd year blues, or simply isn't ready for AFL level yet. Maybe Vossy was able to get the best out of him and Leppo isn't reaching him. Maybe he has said he wants to come home and the coaches are neglecting & ignoring him.

Regardless, hope he keeps this form up, drives down his value for if he does want to come home.

Aish, like every player in our team right now is having a poor year by their usual standards. Redden, Beams, Green, Leuenberger and many other senior players having poor years so far. Rich pretty well the only one that is playing well. Wouldn't worry about his form. Probably a good thing for you come trade time.

WaynesWorld19 · Apr 27, 2015

Cleric said:
There was talk that Aish was a flight risk after his interviews? That was one of the reasons given for him sliding.
I think thats what he meant.

Slide?? ......pick 7 is not sliding

Take a look at the draft order and Aish finished about his true position .....Bontempeli pick 4 ?

Cleric · Apr 27, 2015

Wayne's-World said:
Slide?? ......pick 7 is not sliding

Take a look at the draft order and Aish finished about his true position .....Bontempeli pick 4 ?

He was rated higher than that before draft day.

WaynesWorld19 · Apr 27, 2015

Cleric said:
He was rated higher than that before draft day.

I know at various stages they talked #1 ......but i believe it's more other players rising up the ranks than Aish falling

But as all these things just an opinion

Mego Red · Apr 28, 2015

Wayne's-World said:
I know at various stages they talked #1 ......but i believe it's more other players rising up the ranks than Aish falling

But as all these things just an opinion

Pretty much every year the SA players slide a few spots. But Aish still should have easily been top five, even allowing for that.

Bicks · Apr 30, 2015

Not good enough to make the starting 22 again this week in the bottom side... apparently

blueiris · Apr 30, 2015

Bicks said:
Not good enough to make the starting 22 again this week in the bottom side... apparently

He had 6 possessions he's heart isn't at the club would rather players that want to be at the Lions.

cotter101 · Apr 30, 2015

Bicks said:
Not good enough to make the starting 22 again this week in the bottom side... apparently

Bad form = back to the neafl.

He's not the only one in our side though. Many others deserve to be dropped, we just don't have players to bring in due to injuries.

spenze · Apr 30, 2015

His value is going down by the week, could be a straight swap for Osbourne the way things are going...at least the Lions would get that big KPF...

Sanders · Apr 30, 2015

I get that's he might be unhappy and that effects his motivation and performance.

I also wonder whether he has the emotional strength, determination and resilience to be worth a big investment? what happens if he doesn't like something here, or if the coach forgets to call him on his birthday?

Dunno. But none of this I find reassuring or comforting

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