Injury Jamison - Knee - 4 Weeks Out

[BluesMan]

Well, good news Dawes won't be playing agianst us, broke his knuckle.. shouldnt be to stretched down back for that one then.

 

[cookie monster]

as shit as it is as long as he is back to kill it in the finals we should be golden

Will be back in max 5 weeks.

This is from your source yeah? Or is it just your opinion?

 

[Squida25]

Well, good news Dawes won't be playing agianst us, broke his knuckle.. shouldnt be to stretched down back for that one then.

He was always going to miss that anyway

 

[BluesMan]

He was always going to miss that anyway

Yes I know that, but now its not: Dawes and cloke without us having jamo (making it hard to stop them), to now cloke vs us no jamo (much more able to cope with that).

I'm trying to say, one of jamo's opponents isn't playing, one that could tear us with his height and bulk.

 

[mightymightyblues]

He's a big loss but at least it's happened several months from finals and not several weeks!

Another way to look at it is that fortunately besides Collingwood (Cloke) and Fremantle (Pavlich), during Jamos absence we play teams that don't possess a genuine and threatening match winning forward. That's the real beauty because if all goes well, he'll return in round 22 at a critical time - to go up against Buddy. We saw on the weekend that if you shut him down and nullify any impact he has on the game, Hawthorn are a completely different side so Jamo could hold the key in that game.

Then the following game (round 24) we're up against the saints and we all know what Jamo did to Riewoldt earlier this year

 

[LemmingMaster]

This is from your source yeah? Or is it just your opinion?

He does not have a source, so it is an opinion.

 

[lionel_luthor]

I am no medical expert or clairvoyant but personally i don't think he'll be back this season, now that The diaganosis is 8 weeks minimum after surgery, think The club would be crazy to risk him in the finals in case of a re injury, not to mention the written rule in never playing injured players in finals

Our window of opportunity is open for at least the next 5 - 8 years or so, the conservative approach would be the most prudent.

 

[rp84]

I had two minor tears in both meniscus and I could still get around fairly well... no limping or anything. They probably were just making sure that there wasnt any clicking or anything locking. Sending him back out was a minor risk but if his knee had come good again, it would have meant we hadnt lost him for an extended time. If he had gone back out and the knee had locked, it would be a 12 month injury rather than just a short period of 6-8 weeks

This isn't quite correct. The 12 month injury you speak of is only if there is a torn ACL. This in not an uncommon combination, the so-called 'unhappy triad', consisting of ACL, medial ligament and medial meniscus.

Often, they just cut out a bit of torn menisus, and yes, would only be 3 or so weeks until he can run, and say 4 before playing.

Keeping it, no doubt decreases chances of osteoarthritis later on.

I expect the 5-6 weeks to be around the mark. And really, we should be able to make do without him if others step up. Apart from the Collingwood game, we really should win them all.

Jammo probably would have had 4 kicked on him too, on the weekend. He was their target everytime they went inside 50. Sooner or later, a forward will get good service.

We just need a midfield to keep harassing, and we will be fine.

 

[blue gunslinger]

This isn't quite correct. The 12 month injury you speak of is only if there is a torn ACL. This in not an uncommon combination, the so-called 'unhappy triad', consisting of ACL, medial ligament and medial meniscus.

Often, they just cut out a bit of torn menisus, and yes, would only be 3 or so weeks until he can run, and say 4 before playing.

Keeping it, no doubt decreases chances of osteoarthritis later on.

I expect the 5-6 weeks to be around the mark. And really, we should be able to make do without him if others step up. Apart from the Collingwood game, we really should win them all.

Jammo probably would have had 4 kicked on him too, on the weekend. He was their target everytime they went inside 50. Sooner or later, a forward will get good service.

We just need a midfield to keep harassing, and we will be fine.

from somebody who sounds like they have a clue
would you have put him back on? was obvious to me some damage had been done. Did it worsen it who knows but it could not have helped

 

[weagles_fan]

This isn't quite correct. The 12 month injury you speak of is only if there is a torn ACL. This in not an uncommon combination, the so-called 'unhappy triad', consisting of ACL, medial ligament and medial meniscus.

Often, they just cut out a bit of torn menisus, and yes, would only be 3 or so weeks until he can run, and say 4 before playing.

Keeping it, no doubt decreases chances of osteoarthritis later on.

I expect the 5-6 weeks to be around the mark. And really, we should be able to make do without him if others step up. Apart from the Collingwood game, we really should win them all.

Jammo probably would have had 4 kicked on him too, on the weekend. He was their target everytime they went inside 50. Sooner or later, a forward will get good service.

We just need a midfield to keep harassing, and we will be fine.

Depends where the tear is. If it is in a place with good blood supply it can be repaired (which is what has happened in this case) which takes about a month longer to heal but is much better for the person in the long term.

 

[Bluebear]

No, 5 weeks from last week. I would be very suprised if he wasn't back by the Demons game, if not the week before.

I'd be thinking this sort of timeframe.

I'd be very surprised if he missed 8 weeks, and the doom and gloomers talking seasons are way off......unless he has an injury other than what they have said.

I had two minor tears in both meniscus and I could still get around fairly well... no limping or anything. They probably were just making sure that there wasnt any clicking or anything locking. Sending him back out was a minor risk but if his knee had come good again, it would have meant we hadnt lost him for an extended time. If he had gone back out and the knee had locked, it would be a 12 month injury rather than just a short period of 6-8 weeks

I've never seen anyone nor heard of anyone missing 12 months with a meniscus tear.
If it locks it just means the tear has formed a flap which folds or moves and prevents the knee from moving. The damage is similar to any other meniscus tear.

 

[rp84]

from somebody who sounds like they have a clue
would you have put him back on? was obvious to me some damage had been done. Did it worsen it who knows but it could not have helped

It is definitely hard to know clinically if he has torn meniscus or not. The clinical examinations have both low sensitivity and specificity.

I am betting they tested the main ligaments, saw that they were intact, and then decided to give him a run to see if it was just a knock or sprain. I've seen the knock 3 or 4 times now, and still can't work out how he tore the meniscus. It just looked like a hit to the knee. Normally it is torn in a wrenching movement.

In the end, no real extra damage would be done by giving him a test.

As for the comment on repair, you are correct regarding the position of the tear being decisive for treatment. The problem with repair, is it is tough to know whether the blood supply will allow healing or not. It is very easy to reinjure it early on.

Some people are reasonably asymptomatic with meniscal pathology, however it ranges through a spectrum that includes locking, pain, and perceived instability of the knee.

 

[CarltonFan]

Update the thread title AFL 360 just said 8 weeks. fml.

 

[Hotcox]

Jamison thinks he will be back for the round 20 game against Melbourne according to my source in the inner sanctun

 

[Aphrodite]

Update the thread title AFL 360 just said 8 weeks. fml.

That is just their opinion.

 

[Abaddon]

Update the thread title AFL 360 just said 8 weeks. fml.

they must be reading the age. they have him down for up to 8 weeks too

 

[Blueboys7]

When they say 8 weeks, do they mean he will miss a further 8 weeks or that it is an 8 week injury from the WCE game?

 

[blues4flag]

Fairly sure it'd be a worst case scenario based on what Icke said. 4-8 weeks. Be taking his word as gospel.

I'd imagine it'd be from the time he had the operation, so probably sometime last week.

 

[Sin City]

Jamison thinks he will be back for the round 20 game against Melbourne according to my source in the inner sanctun

I think it's been established more than enough times that you're completely full of shit.

 

[Cazbah]

I think it's been established more than enough times that you're completely full of shit.

Ah damnit he got my hopes up

 

[Salaryman]

I think it's been established more than enough times that you're completely full of shit.

source inner rectum?

 

[SpiritOfCarlton]

Some details about the equipment we recently purchased to assist Michael Jamison and Shaun Hampson with their rehabilitation programs.

http://spiritofcarlton.com/blog/2011/07/07/working-together-towards-number-17/

 

[Erko Blue]

Great stuff SOC!

Please keep posting and keeping us up to date on your excellent support for the Carlton Football Club.

 

[Aphrodite]

Expected to return between rounds 18 and 20.


Carlton are confident Michael Jamison's knee injury won't compromise his preparation for this year's finals campaign

The key defender is recovering from a tear in his meniscus suffered almost a fortnight ago in the loss to West Coast.

Earlier this week there were fears the key pillar of the Carlton backline could be sidelined for eight weeks, ruling him out until the round 22 clash against Hawthorn.
But the Blues are adamant the full-back's rehabilitation is tracking well and expect him to return to senior action between rounds 18 and 20.

Carlton are confident Michael Jamison's knee injury won't compromise his preparation for this year's finals campaign



Excellent work SOC

 

[Aphrodite]

Back for round 20 would be brilliant.
We may even win every game until then, but I miss Jamo.

So much for Jamo being out for the rest of the season.

Rnd 20 sounds good Harks.