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Arsene Wenger said:
This is fundamentally wrong. It’s got nothing to do with matching an offer. He’s not a free agent. We can drive a hard bargain here.

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One thing in out favor is Norths previous poor results trying to lure players to Arden Street. All the jokes about no-one wanting to go there, missing out on a long list of names. The last thing they want to do is flash the cash get someone on the hook and then fail to follow through and nail the deal.
 
shewho said:
Those saying we have the upper hand in a negotiation may be wrong. If no other club wants to match NM’s terms he nominates for the pre season draft listing his terms as $1m in first year and $750k for the next 4 and NM get him for free.
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Thats a very big if when both Carlton and StKilda are keen.
 

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shewho said:
Those saying we have the upper hand in a negotiation may be wrong. If no other club wants to match NM’s terms he nominates for the pre season draft listing his terms as $1m in first year and $750k for the next 4 and NM get him for free.
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Well actually that would cost them $3 million. These days I don’t think the afl takes to kindly to that sort of stuff there’s enough mediation and shit going on.
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Black 18 said:
I'm aware of that but it still doesn't change a thing, we'll only get what NM can offer and that won't be anything more than pick 9-13ish plus possibly steak knives. If Polec leaves it will be for a longer, better paying contract and only NM are offering that. The other Victorian Clubs are only there as enquirers and we won't dictate where he goes. He will nominate a Club and we'll trade with that Club, there won't be any bidding war going on for his services. He won't be threatened with entering the draft.

They'll offer probably a 2nd rounder and player which rightfully we'll say no to. Eventually we'll get their first and another 'depth' type and that will be that.

I don't think for one second there will be a single club that would be willing to trade a top 5 pick for two mid-late first rounders this year and I don't believe that having 2 mid-late first rounders guarantee you anything at all apart from new shiny things that may or may not be good in another 2-3 years.

To me it also suggests the Club doesn't think it's any real chance for any short term success and have started an unannounced rebuild. Fine if so, but then why did we reappoint a guy whose best was a prelim in '14 and has since underachieved despite grabbing recruits nearly at will and having everything a senior coach could want and more.

If we bomb out again this year - and I think we will - then it would have been 4 years since any meaningful go at something worthwhile and given the talent and resources at hand that's an abject failure IMO.

Losing Polec will make our poor midfield even weaker, much weaker. We have little run or penetration from any of our defenders, apart from cameo's from Robbie Gray nobody gets through traffic or can carry like Polec can and here we are letting someone entering his prime leave without anyone that can cover the loss.

That's crazy list management and like I mentioned earlier says more about what the club thinks is possible than just Polec leaving.

He's entering his prime and is the only mid we have that looks capable of being able to have any sort of positive impact against other quality midfields on a regular basis. Despite being on a restricted training program you can't fault his fitness or work ethic, he's running as hard as anyone we have as the game nears completion, nobody can do what he does, nobody.

We spent good money on Rockliff, Watts and Motlop yet can't find extra cash for somebody that's actually vital to our side? And being in the position of being the only player capable of doing what he does gives him currency to want and expect more. Too much money? - probably, but I'm going to hate to see how impotent we look around the ball next year.

I think it's a bad decision based around once again looking for short term fan hope (yay, 2 first rounders) than actual what's best for building a good side.

And also, Polec isn't the first and won't be the last that we have or will overpay to have play for us, if he decides to stay.
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Not bad summary

IMO Peter Burger was the last outside mid who could transition so well ( was like the wind)

We got the big bodied bollocking mids we wanted but I reckon we should be keeping Polly

I reckon our list isn't bad myself and still think we have 2-3 more years in the window

We are probably only an assistant coach or two ( oops sorry) away from it all clicking together
 
shewho said:
Those saying we have the upper hand in a negotiation may be wrong. If no other club wants to match NM’s terms he nominates for the pre season draft listing his terms as $1m in first year and $750k for the next 4 and NM get him for free.
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And you seriously think he will do that to our club? I don’t and I can’t recal another player having done it either.
 
Ford Fairlane said:
Shaun Atley signed a three year deal a couple of weeks ago. He's not going anywhere.

A couple of North supporters last night talked about their first round pick plus a player like Durdin or maybe Dumont.
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Not keen on Durdin.

I'd be looking at something like:

Polec, 30 & 48 for 9, 27 & 40

Maybe a deal involving Simpkin.
 
The current going rate for a player signing a contract of the kind Polec will reportedly be signing is somewhere between 1st + 2nd round picks or 2x 1st round picks.

I don’t know of any player on that serious coin that was traded for less.
 
Pedro59 said:
Not bad summary

IMO Peter Burger was the last outside mid who could transition so well ( was like the wind)

We got the big bodied bollocking mids we wanted but I reckon we should be keeping Polly

I reckon our list isn't bad myself and still think we have 2-3 more years in the window

We are probably only an assistant coach or two ( oops sorry) away from it all clicking together
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100% we should be keeping Polly, our window only stays open if we keep Polec. To important to our side to lose.
 
Forzaport said:
The current going rate for a player signing a contract of the kind Polec will reportedly be signing is somewhere between 1st + 2nd round picks or 2x 1st round picks.

I don’t know of any player on that serious coin that was traded for less.
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You don't know of any because there aren't any. Thats very big money and warrants a big Trade. Still want to keep him.
 
Macca19 said:
Not keen on Durdin.

I'd be looking at something like:

Polec, 30 & 48 for 9, 27 & 40

Maybe a deal involving Simpkin.
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If we say nine is in the deal regardless, and it’s true north need points for Thomas (or am I wrong on this), then 9 and 27 for Polec, 45 and 48 is better for them.

I think keeping 30 is better for us too.
 

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JUSTWORK said:
its a risk, but lets give him the 5 years. He is super important to our side and will take unders to stay at Port. Only a handful of our players are more important to our side.
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He's been injury free for a couple years now, and he's built up the required stamina for AFL. I'd say it's not really a risk at all. I'd offer Polec 5 years and 500-600k in a heartbeat.
 
North fans thinking they’ve got the upper hand in trade negotiations for Polec like they can threaten psd or to force port to take whatever trade is like a junkie thinking he has the upper hand on his heroin dealer


They’re outright desperate to land someone. Have been for years.

As I said elsewhere, they’re somewhere between incredibly keen to balls ****ing deep

Good luck lowballing port.
 
Forzaport said:
The current going rate for a player signing a contract of the kind Polec will reportedly be signing is somewhere between 1st + 2nd round picks or 2x 1st round picks.

I don’t know of any player on that serious coin that was traded for less.
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We're getting unders on that though because if push came to shove North can just walk him to the draft and nobody else is going to be crazy enough to take on a 5 x $750k contract with $1m front loaded next year.
 
TeeKray said:
We're getting unders on that though because if push came to shove North can just walk him to the draft and nobody else is going to be crazy enough to take on a 5 x $750k contract with $1m front loaded next year.
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Carlton. Gold Coast. St Kilda. All have money they must spend and couldn't grab him quick enough if it was only a million up front.

Polecat does not walk any further than Carlton.

These clubs are struggling to make the minimum spend on the cap with their current lists.
 

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scottjr said:
Carlton. Gold Coast. St Kilda. All have money they must spend and couldn't grab him quick enough if it was only a million up front.

Polecat does not walk any further than Carlton.

These clubs are struggling to make the minimum spend on the cap with their current lists.
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Then why arent any of these clubs actively trying to get him?

Heard Saints are keen but dropped out once norths offer came to light.

Dunno if anyone would match.
 
scottjr said:
Carlton. Gold Coast. St Kilda. All have money they must spend and couldn't grab him quick enough if it was only a million up front.

Polecat does not walk any further than Carlton.

These clubs are struggling to make the minimum spend on the cap with their current lists.
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Gold Coast? Has a player ever specified that they want to play in a certain state, only for a club from another state swoop in and take them in the draft? It wouldn't make sense to do so.
 

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