Injury Jimmy Bartel - concussion

[Catteract]

Anyone know the latest on Jimmy? He sounded as though it may have been pretty serious given his confusion post-match?

State of mind......

 

[oozeboss]

Re: Jimmy Bartel's State

Hopefully, Victoria.

And hopefully aware of that fact.

 

[ozgirl]

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Hopefully, Victoria.

And hopefully aware of that fact.

Haha very clever!
Quote from jon ralph's twitter



Bartel so out of it post-match he didn't know why Selwood wasn't playing, had new boots which he didn't even recognise. Long odds next week?

 

[mac_cat]

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Quote from jon ralph's twitter

Bartel so out of it post-match he didn't know why Selwood wasn't playing, had new boots which he didn't even recognise. Long odds next week?

And this quote from Paul Chapman re Jimmy:

"After the game I tried to talk to him and he was in la-la land ... he is a hard man Jim and you know if he struggles to get up, he had been hit pretty well"

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...sed-jimmy-bartel/story-e6frf9jf-1226078070337

It is concerning because he's now had a number of fairly serious concussions, and there is no doubt that they have a cumulative effect. I'm guessing he'll be out for at least a week, if not more. And I also wonder if he should even consider some head protection when he comes back.

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

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Bartel so out of it post-match he didn't know why Selwood wasn't playing, had new boots which he didn't even recognise. Long odds next week?

I'm assuming the concussion testers weren't around when Nathan Ablett was playing for the Cats...

It is concerning because he's now had a number of fairly serious concussions, and there is no doubt that they have a cumulative effect. I'm guessing he'll be out for at least a week, if not more. And I also wonder if he should even consider some head protection when he comes back.

He wore a helmet when he was playing for Falcons; he wore one in the 2000 grand final they won, with Hodge and Buchanan.

 

[Fiddlestix]

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Clumsy Pods First he knocks out Jimmy, hurts Vardy...oh well, I was fairly happy with his performance.

JB apparently has had memory loss. He'll probably miss out on 1-3. I doubt he'll play next week. Our new coaching staff take injuries pretty seriously, even if they're minor, so if he's not 100% they won't play him, especially considering it's a head injury.

I'm also scared Kelly won't play next week, and Corey will get suspended. That leaves out our 4 best midfielders and most influential players (Pops, Smithy, JB and Sel). I'm confident we can still win, but it will take a lot more work.

Hoping Browny debuts next round against Adelaide. Would help us a fair bit, having another bag-kicking forward.

 

[bobbycatsfanme]

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can't see Corey go for that because the MRP take the resulting blow into major consideration and Corey has a pretty good record so they know he'd learn from it and not repeat. Wouldn't play Kelly anyways because he needs to be cherry ripe in September so give him a good week or two to rest up and get it right. I reckon Bundy is gonna be pretty excited because he will get yo play a whole match I suspect next week and if he does well he could stay in until Selwood get's back in another month so it's a huge chance for him.
Jimmy will rest a week and he needs it the way he plays..I'd probably bring in either Guthrie or Byrnes for him but I am not sure Mitch Brown is right this year to play his 1st match. He needs one more decent pre-season of weights under his belt before coming through. Then again he's listed at about 90+ kg's so could just be very deceptive
(I think next we'll find Motlop slip a few $$$ in Pods pocket to take out Stevie J so he then gets a game)

 

[Big Fozza]

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That sounds pretty bad. Give him a couple of weeks off.

 

[krisholio14]

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Jimmy is due for a rest anyway.

 

[dazbroncos]

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Not a Doc or close to it...

but...comparing that JB was in a similar state to Selwood although not as bad (the frozen man condition) I would be shocked to see JB play next week.

Add in the fact he hasnt been beset with the general soreness bug yet this year,
and he might be off for two......

Hopefully not but they will not take any chances, and if the words from Chappy were that Jimmeh was out of it a good 2.5 hrs after the event, then it seems possible he's out for 2....

Go Catters...

 

[topic97]

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Its not worth risking Jimmy, so they probably wont.

We are playing Adelaide at home which is a massive advantage already, and even if we dropped a game at this point we are still 2.5 games clear of the Blues in 3rd so would still snare 2nd.

Having said that, if Stokes and Corey go that is a whole new issue - god, they could get 5 each the way the MRP are hating on us at the moment.....

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

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Its not worth risking Jimmy, so they probably wont.

We are playing Adelaide at home which is a massive advantage already, and even if we dropped a game at this point we are still 2.5 games clear of the Blues in 3rd so would still snare 2nd.

Having said that, if Stokes and Corey go that is a whole new issue - god, they could get 5 each the way the MRP are hating on us at the moment.....

Selwood's suspension is so costly now, because this current block of games would be the perfect time to give a week's rest to Bartel, Corey and Kelly. As it stands, we can probably afford to go in to next week without Bartel, but to lose two of Corey/Kelly/Stokes would stretch us. When we look at the reserves players to come in, well Christensen would be an obvious choice, except for the fact that he didn't play on the weekend (still haven't heard what's wrong with him), Byrnes will be in, no question. Then you'd think Cowan would be looked at as a possibility. And I think Brown will come in anyway, with our midfield robbing the forward line of some of its regulars. Assuming a worst case scenario (Bartel, Kelly, Corey, Stokes, Christensen and Milburn all out), the lineup would be something like this:

B: J. Hunt, Lonergan, Scarlett
HB: Mackie, Taylor, Enright
C: T. Hunt, Ling, Wojcinski
HF: Menzel, Vardy, Varcoe
F: Byrnes, Podsiadly, Chapman
R: Ottens, Johnson, Duncan
I/C: Cowan, Guthrie, Brown, Motlop

The acid must be put on Varcoe, telling him that he would have absolutely been dropped from the side, but they've got no-one else left. Hogan could be closer to a recall than we think.

Still, I think that side is good enough to beat Adelaide and I don't think we're going to lose all six of the players mentioned above, maybe 3-4.

 

[topic97]

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Its a possibility..... god, that would be the youngest list we have fielded in a long long time!!

Fingers crossed its not the case though.

 

[Furious_G]

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It's these times that I love Chris Scott's approach to playing positions. There are only 3-4 KPP and the rest is interchangeable. Mackie, Enright, Champan, Ling, Stokes, Byrnes, Johnson, Wojo, etc make a good rotating midfield.

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

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Its a possibility..... god, that would be the youngest list we have fielded in a long long time!!

Fingers crossed its not the case though.

Out: Milburn, Bartel, Kelly, Corey, Stokes (about 1000 games' experience)

In: Cowan, Byrnes, Guthrie, Brown, Motlop (103 games experience - of which Byrnes has 98).

 

[witsend]

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Selwood's suspension is so costly now, because this current block of games would be the perfect time to give a week's rest to Bartel, Corey and Kelly. As it stands, we can probably afford to go in to next week without Bartel, but to lose two of Corey/Kelly/Stokes would stretch us. When we look at the reserves players to come in, well Christensen would be an obvious choice, except for the fact that he didn't play on the weekend (still haven't heard what's wrong with him), Byrnes will be in, no question. Then you'd think Cowan would be looked at as a possibility. And I think Brown will come in anyway, with our midfield robbing the forward line of some of its regulars. Assuming a worst case scenario (Bartel, Kelly, Corey, Stokes, Christensen and Milburn all out), the lineup would be something like this:

B: J. Hunt, Lonergan, Scarlett
HB: Mackie, Taylor, Enright
C: T. Hunt, Ling, Wojcinski
HF: Menzel, Vardy, Varcoe
F: Byrnes, Podsiadly, Chapman
R: Ottens, Johnson, Duncan
I/C: Cowan, Guthrie, Brown, Motlop

The acid must be put on Varcoe, telling him that he would have absolutely been dropped from the side, but they've got no-one else left. Hogan could be closer to a recall than we think.

Still, I think that side is good enough to beat Adelaide and I don't think we're going to lose all six of the players mentioned above, maybe 3-4.

Not a bad side really. Lucky we're playing Adelaide at home.
At least the back-line's intact!
We should remember that although T. Hunt, Menzel and Duncan are "new" they are well and truly entrenched in the system and are playing more like 50+ game players already.
We would most likely get smashed at stoppages though. I would hope that C. Scott puts numbers back and tries a game of attrition.

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

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We would most likely get smashed at stoppages though. I would hope that C. Scott puts numbers back and tries a game of attrition.

Not so sure about that. Sure, Scott Thompson is an absolute gun, but I don't think the Crows have got another midfielder who in 2011 could even be classified as 'above-average'.

 

[DanA]

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Not so sure about that. Sure, Scott Thompson is an absolute gun, but I don't think the Crows have got another midfielder who in 2011 could even be classified as 'above-average'.

Dangerfield

 

[cats81]

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Dangerfield

Plays much more game time in the forward line....and is over-rated as a midfielder

Sloane is their best young mid

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

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Plays much more game time in the forward line....and is over-rated as a midfielder

Sloane is their best young mid

Dangerfield might be forced to play as a permanent forward as well, as apparently Knights is under an injury cloud. Sloane also copped a corkie on Friday night and is a chance to miss. Dangerfield can cause problems there, but with Walker and possibly Knights out, the defence will just be collapsing on Tippett every time. Can't see the Crows kicking a winning score unless Dangerfield gets 3+.

 

[Selective Retention]

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They had Bradshaw on Morning Glory this morning with Mark Allen and Dr Turf. The hosts were more interested in drawing out the "humourous" things Jimmy was saying in the rooms rather than the condition of any of our players. Majorly distasteful.

 

[Renegade]

Josh Hunt out as well.

 

[witsend]

Josh Hunt out as well.

Why???

 

[oozeboss]

Been offered a week by the MRP for rough conduct.

 

[krisholio14]

Jimmy - Brain scans - season in limbo.....

Worried for our boy Jimmy.....

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...-season-in-limbo/story-e6frf9jf-1226079561172

GEELONG has sent champion midfielder Jimmy Bartel to a brain specialist following his second serious concussion of the season.

Bartel was knocked out in a pre-season game and again on Saturday night against St Kilda.

The Cats are anxiously awaiting the results of yesterday's scans before making a decision on the Brownlow medallist's immediate playing future.

Bartel, who who was cleaned up by teammate James Podsiadly, was badly affected hours after the game and had no memory of his team's victory.

Bartel's troubles emerged on the day when the focus is on head injuries in the AFL as a result of the retirement of Adelaide defender Scott Stevens.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...-season-in-limbo/story-e6frf9jf-1226079561172