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why is judd still favourite for brownlow? from an unbiased opinion bartel has been amazing this season... and has the wood over judd for the brownlow at the moment you would think....

so why is judd still favourite?
 
I agree!
Judd is favourite because he is more flashy so stands out more, and the umpires whack off over him each night at their daily meeting
 
Metallica_Man said:
I agree!
Judd is favourite because he is more flashy so stands out more, and the umpires whack off over him each night at their daily meeting
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Lets not get over excited here... Chris Judd gets tagged every single week, is almost impossible to tackle, has won league contested possessions 2 years running, constantly hits targets at full pace.

Lets look at it from an even perspective, Judd is the complete player.... Bartel lacks in speed, lateral movement, agility etc. Judd has also played a consistant 3-4 seasons at the league elite, + won a premiership and brownlow medal. I don't want to put a damper on Bartel's awesome season but just a more realistic view I think.
 

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bartel has also been in top 3 more games than judd this season imo... because judd has been around doing what he does best for the last 2-3 years prob favours him with the umps...
 
People betting on the brownlow are not just betting on form to date but also what they expect for the rest of the year. At the end of his career (assuming he maintains his standards) Judd will be regarded as one of the best players of all time. He is pure silk. On this basis, even if Jimmy's form this year has been better to date (and this is not a given), people think Judd is more likely to sustain his form than Jimmy.

Judd is one of those rare players (ala the great Gary Ablett) that even opposition fans enjoy watching for the amazing things he does on a footy field. While I love Jimmy, Judd >>>>>> Jimmy. To say otherwise is simply a case of heart over head IMHO.
 
My5t3r10u5 said:
People betting on the brownlow are not just betting on form to date but also what they expect for the rest of the year. At the end of his career (assuming he maintains his standards) Judd will be regarded as one of the best players of all time. He is pure silk. On this basis, even if Jimmy's form this year has been better to date (and this is not a given), people think Judd is more likely to sustain his form than Jimmy.

Judd is one of those rare players (ala the great Gary Ablett) that even opposition fans enjoy watching for the amazing things he does on a footy field. While I love Jimmy, Judd >>>>>> Jimmy. To say otherwise is simply a case of heart over head IMHO.
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True true. Agree completely. But based on the performance today, what about this equation:

Gazza Jr. >>>>>> Judd

:D:D:D:D
 
Not to take away from young Jimmy who has been awesome this season, i reckon if there was an open pick between Judd and Gaz Jr, clubs will at least have to think a bit before making the call. Few others would have that mantle in the comp......
 
Bartel doesn't even get a tag and picks up a lot of cheap possessions, none of which Judd get.
 
Catsace said:
Not to take away from young Jimmy who has been awesome this season, i reckon if there was an open pick between Judd and Gaz Jr, clubs will at least have to think a bit before making the call. Few others would have that mantle in the comp......
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Yeah....maybe 5 seconds...and then choose Judd!!!

GAJ is my favourite Cats player, but Judd is clearly the best player in the comp IMHO (see previous post).
 

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Courageous Jimmy is awesome. Nobody takes a better mark backing into a pack than Jimmy.

Defensively Jimmy is a better player, but Judd is an awesome midfielder and better than Judd in just about every other aspect of the game.

Did anyone see Jimmy do a huge leap and hit the ball out straight to ablett who dished it off to Stokes who scored a Goal. Jimmy ruckman of the year!! :p
 
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Bartel uncontested possessions in the backhalf with nobody near him from opposition. Judd has a player up his ass 100% of the game.
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Bartel works very hard to get back and fill a space. If the opposition isn't going to tag him that's their problem. That doesn't make him any less of a player though.

I'm not taking anything away from Judd, he is the best in the business. But to criticise Bartel like that shows a distinct lack of football knowledge.

Judd should be Brownlow favourite because he's a proven vote-winner.
 
Just to remind people that the OP was saying that Bartel should be favourite for the Brownlow ahead of Judd based on this years performances.
The original post was not about who is the better player. I think everyone would acknowledge Judd is a better player, and will be regarded so at the end of his career.
But this year in terms of Brownlow, it's pretty damn close.
 

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weagles_fan said:
Bartel doesn't even get a tag and picks up a lot of cheap possessions, none of which Judd get.
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lets get something straight here sprinkles....

YOU DONT WATCH ANY GAME OF FOOTBALL THAT DOESNT INVOLVE WEST COAST

so until you do your opinions are about as irrelevant as moral conscience in the west coast footy club
 
weagles_fan said:
Bartel uncontested possessions in the backhalf with nobody near him from opposition. Judd has a player up his ass 100% of the game.
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From what I hear most Weagles players have someone else (or something)up their ass 100% of the time.........
Sorry - but thats a shocking call. Bartel plays as the opposition let him. So does Judd.
 

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