JLT Series Discussion Thread

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Beams selected to play on Thursday... imagine a few teams will change come Friday morning

...and he's captain!

 

[CrozaN]

WESTERN BULLDOGS

1. Matthew Suckling, 4. Marcus Bontempelli, 5. Matthew Boyd, 8. Stewart Crameri, 9. Jake Stringer, 10. Easton Wood, 11. Jackson Macrae, 12. Zaine Cordy, 13. Travis Cloke, 14. Clay Smith, 16. Toby McLean, 17. Tom Boyd, 19. Lukas Webb, 20. Josh Dunkley, 22. Mitch Honeychurch, 25. Marcus Adams, 26. Declan Hamilton, 27. Patrick Lipinski, 31. Bailey Dale, 32. Kieran Collins, 33. Lewis Young, 34. Bailey Williams, 36. Brad Lynch, 37. Roarke Smith, 38. Dale Morris, 40. Nathan Mullenger-McHugh, 42. Liam Picken, 44. Tim English, 46. Lin Jong

BRISBANE LIONS

1. Ben Keays, 4. Ryan Bastinac, 5. Mitchell Robinson, 6. Hugh McCluggage, 7. Tom Bell, 8. Rohan Bewick, 9. Dayne Beams, 10. Daniel Rich, 12. Stefan Martin, 14. Josh Walker, 15. Dayne Zorko, 16. Jared Jansen, 17. Claye Beams, 18. Nicholas Robertson, 26. Tom Cutler, 27. Darcy Gardiner, 28. Lewis Taylor, 30. Eric Hipwood, 31. Harris Andrews, 32. Sam Mayes, 33. Michael Close, 35. Ryan Lester, 36. Rhys Mathieson, 37. Jacob Allison, 38. Tom Rockliff, 40. Matthew Hammelmann, 43. Jake Barrett, 44. Archie Smith, 45. Jack Frost


THE BONT IS BACK <3

Archie still named along with Steff tho :\

 

[Sydney Kicker]

Archie still named along with Steff tho :\

Means noting in the context of Round 1. 29 still doesn't fit into 22. Remember at least 3 of those named today won't even make round 1 as an emergency.

 

[CrozaN]

Means noting in the context of Round 1. 29 still doesn't fit into 22. Remember at least 3 of those named today won't even make round 1 as an emergency.

The quicker Archie is out of that team the better

 

[Sydney Kicker]

The quicker Archie is out of that team the better

"You had only one job"

 

[stevebbb]

I reckon Archie is sticking around, they would be dumb not to pump games into him

same as North with Preuss

 

[Flandersss]

I reckon Archie is sticking around, they would be dump not to pump games into him

same as North with Preuss

So what's does that mean for Stef/Goldy if that's the case?

Grundy at a lower ceiling at R2?

 

[stevebbb]

So what's does that mean for Stef/Goldy if that's the case?

Grundy at a lower ceiling at R2?

I have absolutely no idea... and anybody who says they do is a liar

The way I look at it, you got two 21/22 year old ruckman who have shown some talent (Archie more so as he's had a couple decent performances at AFL level), playing for two clubs that aren't going to win a flag any time soon, why wouldn't the potential future number 1 ruckman be given a chance and given AFL experience

If I take a guess right now, as an outsider, without any real facts, I'd say Preuss plays 5-10 games this year, Archie plays 15-22



All I know is the rucks are really damn hard this year

 

[RobZombie]

Two are dpps, probably better served in their non-mid positions and Wigg isn't guaranteed a round 1 game with Brad Crouch, Thompson and Sloane to return. SPP is slighter more than $120k anyway.

But you still want DPPs in the mids for the link and if there's a shortage of mid rookies there might not be much choice anyway.

BTW, if Hibberd starts R1 he's probably still under pressure from Wright once he's fit.

 

[Flandersss]

I have absolutely no idea... and anybody who says they do is a liar

The way I look at it, you got two 21/22 year old ruckman who have shown some talent (Archie more so as he's had a couple decent performances at AFL level), playing for two clubs that aren't going to win a flag any time soon, why wouldn't the potential future number 1 ruckman be given a chance and given AFL experience

If I take a guess right now, as an outsider, without any real facts, I'd say Preuss plays 5-10 games this year, Archie plays 15-22



All I know is the rucks are really damn hard this year

Can Grundy go 100+ in your opinion?

 

[stevebbb]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...n/news-story/6eb50d6571aa6d494f54dc6d68f6403c

1. Nat Fyfe ($573,500, Mid) Fremantle

Ownership: 50.8%. Previous: 1 (54.4%)

The Dockers superstar remains the No. 1 pick after two rounds of the JLT Community Series. Fyfe posted a promising 93 in his first hit-out in 84 per cent ground time against West Coast.


2. Patrick Dangerfield ($716,900, Mid) Geelong

Ownership: 49.0%. Previous: 3 (48.9%)

The Brownlow Medallist moves up one position after a strong start to his pre-season campaign, scoring 117 in 82 per cent time on ground in Week 1.

3. Max Gawn ($645,000, Ruck) Melbourne

Ownership: 47.0%. Previous: 4 (45.7%)

Gawn has been sharing ruck duties with Jake Spencer during the JLT Series, seeing him underwhelm with scores of 94 and 78. We don’t expect that to continue come Round 1.

4. Luke Dahlhaus ($520,700, Fwd-Mid) W. Bulldogs

Ownership: 40.6%. Previous: 8 (38.5%)

The most popular forward after a massive 143 in his only pre-season appearance so far. A SuperCoach gun that can win possessions, loves to tackle and kicks goals.

5. David Swallow ($280,200, Mid) Gold Coast

Ownership: 39.5%. Previous: 7 (39.0%)

Early signs are positive for Swallow with scores of 80 (53 per cent game time) and 82 (70% TOG) in his two JLT games. Due to a lack of obvious midfield cash cows, he looms as a must-have.

6. Hugh McCluggage ($202,800, Mid-Fwd) Brisbane

Ownership: 38.3%. Previous: 6 (41.2%)

The No. 3 draft pick has had one game this pre-season, scoring 67, which is enough to suggest he’s firmly in the frame for Round 1. That price tag is off-putting but midfield cash cows look hard to find at this point.

7. Jarryd Roughead ($367,100, Fwd) Hawthorn

Ownership: 39.7%. Previous: 11 (32.0%)

The new Hawks skipper looks back to his best after scores of 63 in 83 per cent time on ground and 95 (85% TOG)


8. Sam Powell-Pepper ($135,300, Mid) Port Adelaide

Ownership: 36.4%. Previous: 12 (31.8%)

Port’s top draft pick’s first outing was full of promising moments. In his 67 per cent game time, SPP managed 56 points. We’ll hopefully have two more looks at him before Round 1.

9. Jaeger O’Meara ($318,900, Mid) Hawthorn

Ownership: 33.4%. Previous: N/A

The boom Hawks recruit has certainly made a splash in his two games and has rocketed into the top 10 most popular picks. Has posted 44 (47 per cent game time) and 90 (81% TOG).

10. Andrew McGrath ($211,800, Def-Mid) Essendon

Ownership: 32.5%. Previous: 5 (43.6%)

The No. 1 draft pick has dropped sharply in popularity after two pre-season games. Perhaps due to his price or the rise of cheaper cash cow options. Scores of 35 and 54.

11. Taylor Adams ($527,800, Def-Mid) Collingwood

Ownership: 31.3%. Previous 10 (32.2%)

12. Luke Ryan ($117,300, Def) Fremantle

Ownership: 29.6%. Previous: 9 (34.5%)

13. Heath Shaw ($576,500, Def) GWS Giants

Ownership: 28.7%. Previous: 17 (30.1%)


14. Isaac Heeney ($433,400, Fwd) Sydney

Ownership: 28.1%. Previous: 18 (28.5%)

15. Mitchell Hibberd ($123,900, Def-Mid) North Melbourne

Ownership: 27.4%. Previous: N/A

16. Tom Stewart ($117,300, Def) Geelong

Ownership: 26.3%. Previous: N/A

17. Brett Eddy ($102,400, Fwd) Port Adelaide

Ownership: 25.7%. Previous: N/A

18. Jarrod Pickett ($123,900, Mid-Fwd) Carlton

Ownership: 25.4%. Previous: 20 (26.9%)

19. Nathan Freeman ($123,900, Mid) St Kilda

Ownership: 24.8%. Previous: 15 (30.5%)

20. Aaron Black ($137,100, Fwd) Geelong

Ownership: 24.3%. Previous: N/A

 

[RobZombie]

Preuss 95

him at R3 with Cameron at F7?

6 disposals, 3 goals. He'll get the former more often than the latter in the real world.

BUT ... all of a sudden I'm thinking about finding the cash to upgrade Hickey -> Goldy and handcuffing him to Preuss. Would mean I don't have to carry Ryder at F3 then.

 

[stevebbb]

Can Grundy go 100+ in your opinion?

90-100 imo

1. doesn't get enough hitouts to advantage
2. i don't think his disposal numbers will rise, 18.5 a game last year
3. others will take his points

Decent chance I end up taking him at R2, but I won't be confident

 

[PoopingHindi]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...n/news-story/6eb50d6571aa6d494f54dc6d68f6403c

1. Nat Fyfe ($573,500, Mid) Fremantle

Ownership: 50.8%. Previous: 1 (54.4%)

The Dockers superstar remains the No. 1 pick after two rounds of the JLT Community Series. Fyfe posted a promising 93 in his first hit-out in 84 per cent ground time against West Coast.


2. Patrick Dangerfield ($716,900, Mid) Geelong

Ownership: 49.0%. Previous: 3 (48.9%)

The Brownlow Medallist moves up one position after a strong start to his pre-season campaign, scoring 117 in 82 per cent time on ground in Week 1.

3. Max Gawn ($645,000, Ruck) Melbourne

Ownership: 47.0%. Previous: 4 (45.7%)

Gawn has been sharing ruck duties with Jake Spencer during the JLT Series, seeing him underwhelm with scores of 94 and 78. We don’t expect that to continue come Round 1.

4. Luke Dahlhaus ($520,700, Fwd-Mid) W. Bulldogs

Ownership: 40.6%. Previous: 8 (38.5%)

The most popular forward after a massive 143 in his only pre-season appearance so far. A SuperCoach gun that can win possessions, loves to tackle and kicks goals.

5. David Swallow ($280,200, Mid) Gold Coast

Ownership: 39.5%. Previous: 7 (39.0%)

Early signs are positive for Swallow with scores of 80 (53 per cent game time) and 82 (70% TOG) in his two JLT games. Due to a lack of obvious midfield cash cows, he looms as a must-have.

6. Hugh McCluggage ($202,800, Mid-Fwd) Brisbane

Ownership: 38.3%. Previous: 6 (41.2%)

The No. 3 draft pick has had one game this pre-season, scoring 67, which is enough to suggest he’s firmly in the frame for Round 1. That price tag is off-putting but midfield cash cows look hard to find at this point.

7. Jarryd Roughead ($367,100, Fwd) Hawthorn

Ownership: 39.7%. Previous: 11 (32.0%)

The new Hawks skipper looks back to his best after scores of 63 in 83 per cent time on ground and 95 (85% TOG)


8. Sam Powell-Pepper ($135,300, Mid) Port Adelaide

Ownership: 36.4%. Previous: 12 (31.8%)

Port’s top draft pick’s first outing was full of promising moments. In his 67 per cent game time, SPP managed 56 points. We’ll hopefully have two more looks at him before Round 1.

9. Jaeger O’Meara ($318,900, Mid) Hawthorn

Ownership: 33.4%. Previous: N/A

The boom Hawks recruit has certainly made a splash in his two games and has rocketed into the top 10 most popular picks. Has posted 44 (47 per cent game time) and 90 (81% TOG).

10. Andrew McGrath ($211,800, Def-Mid) Essendon

Ownership: 32.5%. Previous: 5 (43.6%)

The No. 1 draft pick has dropped sharply in popularity after two pre-season games. Perhaps due to his price or the rise of cheaper cash cow options. Scores of 35 and 54.

11. Taylor Adams ($527,800, Def-Mid) Collingwood

Ownership: 31.3%. Previous 10 (32.2%)

12. Luke Ryan ($117,300, Def) Fremantle

Ownership: 29.6%. Previous: 9 (34.5%)

13. Heath Shaw ($576,500, Def) GWS Giants

Ownership: 28.7%. Previous: 17 (30.1%)


14. Isaac Heeney ($433,400, Fwd) Sydney

Ownership: 28.1%. Previous: 18 (28.5%)

15. Mitchell Hibberd ($123,900, Def-Mid) North Melbourne

Ownership: 27.4%. Previous: N/A

16. Tom Stewart ($117,300, Def) Geelong

Ownership: 26.3%. Previous: N/A

17. Brett Eddy ($102,400, Fwd) Port Adelaide

Ownership: 25.7%. Previous: N/A

18. Jarrod Pickett ($123,900, Mid-Fwd) Carlton

Ownership: 25.4%. Previous: 20 (26.9%)

19. Nathan Freeman ($123,900, Mid) St Kilda

Ownership: 24.8%. Previous: 15 (30.5%)

20. Aaron Black ($137,100, Fwd) Geelong

Ownership: 24.3%. Previous: N/A

are there really that many people without Danger and Dahl in their teams?
must be using autofil

 

[Super Hans]

Won't be reading too much into our game. Very weak midfield minus Bontempelli and Macrae. All eyes on Beams.

 

[PoopingHindi]

Won't be reading too much into our game. Very weak midfield minus Bontempelli and Macrae. All eyes on Beams.

i wouldnt read too much into any of these games.
there's a reason why blokes like Wellingham and Higgins can run around getting possessions at will.
once the real stuff starts and the intensity picks up things will be very different.

 

[Flandersss]

i wouldnt read too much into any of these games.
there's a reason why blokes like Wellingham and Higgins can run around getting possessions at will.
once the real stuff starts and the intensity picks up things will be very different.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[Falchoon]

90-100 imo

1. doesn't get enough hitouts to advantage
2. i don't think his disposal numbers will rise, 18.5 a game last year
3. others will take his points

Decent chance I end up taking him at R2, but I won't be confident

solid chance of playing 22 games whilst having limited positional competition from within

that shouldn't be sneezed at.

 

[Huttabito]

solid chance of playing 22 games whilst having limited positional competition from within

that shouldn't be sneezed at.

This. There are so many question marks surrounding the rucks this year it may be nice to just lock in someone like Grundy from the get go.

 

[Killtaxi]

JOM or Swallow?

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

JOM or Swallow?

JOM

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

JOM

I'm still worried about JOM's long term injuries playing a factor this year, but I believe he has a higher scope than Swallow. Not a easy decision.

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

I'm still worried about JOM's long term injuries playing a factor this year, but I believe he has a higher scope than Swallow. Not a easy decision.

no its not, but on form JOM has looked better than Swallow

FWIW, im not taking either

 

[Significant]

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Ah FFS. Shut up people. Gaaaaaaaawd!

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

no its not, but on form JOM has looked better than Swallow

FWIW, im not taking either

Mid range cash cows are fraught with danger.

For example:
I'm grappling over my own more expensive mid rangers with Bob Murphy (or I am to use Macmillan), Hvorat, Higgins, and JOM.