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Philzsay said:
It is an interesting read this thread.

A number of well liked posts along the lines of 'Essendon should release a statement about Joe'

And a number of well liked posts along the lines of 'Can't believe a word Essendon says to us'.
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I would think if Essendon released a statement declaring that JD did not receive any injections in 2011/12 and had not received an IN, then that would be accepted as truth.
 
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Was tempted to post similar, but the thought of EFC luddites ranting about defamation like it was the magic wand to make the bad people go away was appetising.
 

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Lance Uppercut said:
so Essendon are just lying through their teeth when they confirm that he's available for selection?
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To labour the point a little, the only two sources I have seen about this are you and John "hot scoops" Ralph addressing the question with weasel words.
 
jenny61_99 said:
I never said he didn't answer, I just said if he'd not been a part of it, and didn't know anything about it, there wouldn't be many questions needed because he'd have no answers. How many different ways can you say "I wasn't a part of it, I didn't see anything, I don't know"?
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What was the relationship between Hird, Dank, Reid, Robinson etc?
Did you see anyone getting injected?
Did you hear anyone talking about it?
Did you ever see what was in Dank's office?
Did you have any conversations with Reid?
Did you discuss the program they intended to put you on next year?
When player X dropped you back home after training did you have to stop off anywhere on the way?
When players were walking out to training or back from training was Dank there, was he calling players over?
 
Lance Uppercut said:
so Essendon are just lying through their teeth when they confirm that he's available for selection?
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Essendon have been lying through their teeth to the public since the investigation began and the lying started on Day number 1 claiming they self reported. I am sorry you are upset I do not believe anything that come out of your honourable club though
 
Albert Ross said:
What was the relationship between Hird, Dank, Reid, Robinson etc?
Did you see anyone getting injected?
Did you hear anyone talking about it?
Did you ever see what was in Dank's office?
Did you have any conversations with Reid?
Did you discuss the program they intended to put you on next year?
When player X dropped you back home after training did you have to stop off anywhere on the way?
When players were walking out to training or back from training was Dank there, was he calling players over?
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one word responses to all. No.
 
Armchair Critic said:
Essendon have been lying through their teeth to the public since the investigation began and the lying started on Day number 1 claiming they self reported. I am sorry you are upset I do not believe anything that come out of your honourable club though
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lol I'm not upset.

Bemused would be closer to the mark
 

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jenny61_99 said:
I would think if Essendon released a statement declaring that JD did not receive any injections in 2011/12 and had not received an IN, then that would be accepted as truth.
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Really? I still wouldn't believe them

Remember when Little said he wasn't expecting SCN? Then the next day they received them, and to find out that he asked ASADA to wait off on the SCN because of their match on the weekend?
 
Muggs said:
The HUN updated thier story this morning saying Daniher does not have an IN and is sitting out to play next week.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...supplements-saga/story-fni5f6kv-1227249576151
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nah man, they are lying. They don't know the Truth.

This is just weasel words:

Daniher was not on the Essendon list in 2012 but spent time at the club as a father-son prospect during that year. He does not have an infraction notice and will play soon in the NAB Challenge.
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Muggs said:
The HUN updated thier story this morning saying Daniher does not have an IN and is sitting out to play next week.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...supplements-saga/story-fni5f6kv-1227249576151
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It is known David Zaharakis and Jason Winderlich didn’t receive infraction notices, which means 18 of the 20 remaining 2012 players sitting out the St Kilda game are facing drug bans.

One Essendon supporter is 100% confident that Zaharakis got one, and well connected to him too. Maybe it was mxett
 
jenny61_99 said:
Pffft. Pedant doesn't become you.
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Pedantic?

You argued my point. Clearly you thought I was wrong when I wasn't.

Am I not allowed to prove this?
 

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jenny61_99 said:
No, if he didn't participate wouldn't it have gone like this:


Did you participate in the "supplement program"?

No.

Did you see anyone receive injections?

No.

Thanks for your time.

Four and a half hours later....
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Are you a contracted player with the Essendon Football Club?
Yes

Is this a copy of your contract with the Essendon Football Club?
Yes

Is that your signature on that contract?
Yes

Did you at any time agree to be injected by any person while at the Essendon Football Club?
No Comment

Is this a Consent Form with your name on it
No Comment

Is this your signature on the consent form that says you agree to be injected?
No Comment

I put it to you both the signature on your contract which you agree is yours and the signature on the consent form are identical?
Umm.....Is my lawyer here yet?
 
compact72 said:
Really? I still wouldn't believe them

Remember when Little said he wasn't expecting SCN? Then the next day they received them, and to find out that he asked ASADA to wait off on the SCN because of their match on the weekend?
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Are you saying Little lied in that statement? I don't see one. A bad prediction only. Try again buddy!
 
Baltimore Jack said:
Are you a contracted player with the Essendon Football Club?
Yes

Is this a copy of your contract with the Essendon Football Club?
Yes

Is that your signature on that contract?
Yes

Did you at any time agree to be injected by any person while at the Essendon Football Club?
No Comment

Is this a Consent Form with your name on it
No Comment

Is this your signature on the consent form that says you agree to be injected?
No Comment

I put it to you both the signature on your contract which you agree is yours and the signature on the consent form are identical?
Umm.....Is my lawyer here yet?
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Yep that's ASADA.
 
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