Maybe just banished until they have the meeting that's scheduled for today.
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Maybe just banished until they have the meeting that's scheduled for today.
Nope, papers have already jumped on it that Simpson was a no show today, so - no meeting today.
Which papers? Link?
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I agree with most of your post but you have to be absolutely joking with the first couple of sentences.
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This was posted in the Training thread, but as Seppo aluded to - we should just wait to hear from the club first and foremost.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/22839420/dockers-in-the-dark-as-simpson-a-no-show-again/
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Hmm doesn't sound great.
For heck sake, I didn't expect to see him attend the family day.
The only thing I take from that article is how disappointed the leadership group are with Josh after the support he has received and yes he has a significant penalty coming if he wishes to pursue his footy career. Sounds like this is very much in Josh's corner.
The article isn't clear whether Josh was supposed to be attending training before the meeting. Says he didn't attend and that the players and leadership group haven't spoken with him yet... but doesn't say whether this was part of the plan or not.
Hoping that the meeting will be happening later today, after training.
Will know by tonight I'm sure.
Hoping that the meeting will be happening later today, after training.
Will know by tonight I'm sure.
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Yeah, absolutely. Jumping to conclusions again that might not be there. He may have been asked not to attend training. Many are just assuming that he decided not to turn up of his accord.
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Give him one more go. If he drops the ball again delist him at the end of the year. Maybe rookie him later.
Having all the talent in the world is one thing, having the maturity to use it is another. There are plenty of young players who would give their right arm to have the opportunity to be a professional footballer.
Having all the talent in the world is one thing, having the maturity to use it is another. There are plenty of young players who would give their right arm to have the opportunity to be a professional footballer.
If by 'many', you're eluding to the media. The article's been up for 5 mins and nobody's made that a clear assumption just yet.
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The article and headline are written to give you the impression that he skipped training, but when you read a bit closer I think it's the opposite.
If the meeting was to take place later in the day and his future at the club was going to be discussed, I would have thought it'd be pretty likely that he wouldn't train with the group until his punishment and future are sorted out.
Missed a plane myself for work. Got a lecture, well deserved, from my boss and go on with it. Yes it's grounds for discipline but not a stand alone firing.
Additionally, if you delist him now all you do is remove one player from your options. You don't get to redraft in the middle of the year. Over reaction for mine. You loose nothing by spending the rest of the year trying to work it out. There is no additional cost involved from a club perspective. He either comes good or not. In either case there is no need to rush a decision. As RTB alluded to, the club will support him, because that makes the most sense. They may still turn him into the next SonSon. From a club perspective there is nothing to loose.
Of course that wont stop the moaners from saying we should have picked player X.
So what exactly are you referring too?
The bolded bit isn't coming up! What are you suggesting Josh either did or didn't do?
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That's the way I see it also, fingers crossed
I probably shouldn't jump to any conclusions yet... hoping for the best.
**** I so hope Simpson gets back to the club and takes his punishment and grows from this incident.
$hit we can ill-afford to lose another first round draft pick.
No mora(2009),Pitt(2010,Simpson(2012)
$hit we can ill-afford to lose another first round draft pick.
No mora(2009),Pitt(2010,Simpson(2012)
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Because you may not understand it does not mean it is bizarre.
Well here we go. Time for me to be labelled and condemned by the moralists on here.
I think Simpson should be disciplined severely, and he probably will be. Regardless of "cultural heritage" he has shown complete lack of respect for his team mates & the match committee because he did not get his own way. The aboriginal boys at Freo get plenty of assistance. Mentors, counsellors, special allowances etc etc. Josh clearly believes he is even more special and deserves even more special treatment. If it were Vandeleur or a non-indigenous young player I would say the same thing.
What gets me about this whole thread is the moralists. The only thing on a par with "racists" are left-wing moralists who label, harass, gang up on & deride anybody with an opinion any further along the right-wing side of politics than their own. The holier than thou posters that place themselves and their like minded allies on a pedestal because of some notion that their beliefs are "right" so everybody else is not only wrong, but they are disgusting human beings.
Racism works both ways. And yes I have had my fair share of both sides of the coin, so I feel as though I can comment.
I strongly suspect most of you that have attacked posters like Mike91 because his opinion is vastly different to yours have never ventured outside of the metro area, let alone the upper-middle class suburbs.
I spent most of my primary school years living in a wheatbelt town (Wongan Hills). My partner lived in Northam for most of her life, until she moved to the city in her mid 20's. Let me tell you, we have both seen racism from white people that is ugly, like the aforementioned girl being watched in shops because of her skin colour, and plenty of other examples, but at least equally we have both seen racism that is deeply ingrained in the aboriginal community. No one is better than the other and both are abhorrent and need to change, but things will never change whilst the onus is only on one party (caucasians) to do so.
My partner was assaulted, her brother violently bashed and the family pet violently killed by a gang of young aboriginal boys several years ago. When asked by a counsellor why one of they boys had done this particular assault, his response was "coz they are white c**** and they deserve it." Now this is just one example of plenty that I could list of racism toward the white community.
The thing is, when you are raised in these environments, is it so hard to understand that some (not all) white people develop a mistrust and perpetuate the stereotype of the aboriginal community?
I personally do not believe that all aboriginal people should be "tarred with the same brush". I certainly don't treat the aboriginal people I meet from time to time that way. But I do understand why some people do.
What I will not do is force my morality on them, deride them, call them names etc, etc simply because I believe that they are not seeing the full picture, which I might add is their right to see or not see.
I think Simpson should be disciplined severely, and he probably will be. Regardless of "cultural heritage" he has shown complete lack of respect for his team mates & the match committee because he did not get his own way. The aboriginal boys at Freo get plenty of assistance. Mentors, counsellors, special allowances etc etc. Josh clearly believes he is even more special and deserves even more special treatment. If it were Vandeleur or a non-indigenous young player I would say the same thing.
What gets me about this whole thread is the moralists. The only thing on a par with "racists" are left-wing moralists who label, harass, gang up on & deride anybody with an opinion any further along the right-wing side of politics than their own. The holier than thou posters that place themselves and their like minded allies on a pedestal because of some notion that their beliefs are "right" so everybody else is not only wrong, but they are disgusting human beings.
Racism works both ways. And yes I have had my fair share of both sides of the coin, so I feel as though I can comment.
I strongly suspect most of you that have attacked posters like Mike91 because his opinion is vastly different to yours have never ventured outside of the metro area, let alone the upper-middle class suburbs.
I spent most of my primary school years living in a wheatbelt town (Wongan Hills). My partner lived in Northam for most of her life, until she moved to the city in her mid 20's. Let me tell you, we have both seen racism from white people that is ugly, like the aforementioned girl being watched in shops because of her skin colour, and plenty of other examples, but at least equally we have both seen racism that is deeply ingrained in the aboriginal community. No one is better than the other and both are abhorrent and need to change, but things will never change whilst the onus is only on one party (caucasians) to do so.
My partner was assaulted, her brother violently bashed and the family pet violently killed by a gang of young aboriginal boys several years ago. When asked by a counsellor why one of they boys had done this particular assault, his response was "coz they are white c**** and they deserve it." Now this is just one example of plenty that I could list of racism toward the white community.
The thing is, when you are raised in these environments, is it so hard to understand that some (not all) white people develop a mistrust and perpetuate the stereotype of the aboriginal community?
I personally do not believe that all aboriginal people should be "tarred with the same brush". I certainly don't treat the aboriginal people I meet from time to time that way. But I do understand why some people do.
What I will not do is force my morality on them, deride them, call them names etc, etc simply because I believe that they are not seeing the full picture, which I might add is their right to see or not see.
Who ever highlights the most hypocrisies in the above post, wins!
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