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roundabout113 said:
Unfortunately for your smear campaign and trying to make the Stanhope Football Club look bad Hank you haven't consumed the information quite right as I had the sheet explained to me. There was one colum that noted that player payments for the year. another which noted Incentives which was reserves coaches and players, 3rds coaches and players and netball incentives as well I was told it didn't involve senior incentives, in another colum it noted Coaches and Trainers in together I'm not sure why it was listed like that. The paid players colum was closer to 80 than 90 and the Coaches combined didn't hit 100k so any referring to well over 100k and similar payments to Violet Town would be a big exaggeration. We won 3 finals and jumped 7 spots on the ladder and the Club is financial.

At a guessing point Violet Town would have hit 150k this year and Murchison 120k with Stanhope and Merrigum the next bracket back those Club's all needed to that and Nagambie are fortunate with all their good locals. Club's have varying local bases and fundraising capacities and unfortunately our local base at Stanhope isn't near what it use to be. The Kyabram League has been sheltered from spending but that was always going to change because when the surrounding competitions have so much money you are in competition with them to gain the player. The word on the street is that Lancaster are making some attractive offers to players more so than I've heard in previous years so they are adjusting themselves to try and get back in flag contention as well and the likes of Longwood, Ardmona and Avenel are making decent rises to their budgets as well apparently.
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Here it is then;

paid players $84,988
Incentive awards $17,530
Coach & Trainer fees $16,850
Grand Total $119368 (minus other coaches and incentives, don't tell me that could add up to anymore than $10,000)

No smear campaign mate, just putting some cold, hard facts on here for once, for some reason people would rather run along with rumours and innuendo (or your guessing!!). I don't have a problem with the spending especially when sponsorship, membership, fundraising, social committee, gate and canteen well and truly covered the above expenses.
 
hank1 said:
Here it is then;

paid players $84,988
Incentive awards $17,530
Coach & Trainer fees $16,850
Grand Total $119368 (minus other coaches and incentives, don't tell me that could add up to anymore than $10,000)

No smear campaign mate, just putting some cold, hard facts on here for once, for some reason people would rather run along with rumours and innuendo (or your guessing!!). I don't have a problem with the spending especially when sponsorship, membership, fundraising, social committee, gate and canteen well and truly covered the above expenses.
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Hey Hank I know your are a longtime player & supporter of the Stanhope FC & they may not like these figures being bantered across a public forum but unfortunately when you leave crucial paperwork laying around for all to see well obviously it's guna make for some interesting conversations!

But not to be a sticky beak but I personally thinks it's great that someone (this being you) has thrown it out their for all to see instead of people having guesstimates thinking they know how every clubs finacial position is! You being so involved with Stanhope over the last 10yrs takes alot of ball balls to do this! I credit you for that!

Now I'm not saying it's good that it has been done to Stanhope, not at all, just that it's great to see what such a successful & competetive club spends to be where they are! All credit to the Stanhope FC if they can continue to raise these sort of funds year after year with no threat to the stability of the Football Club....

A) I think it is good for some people to see what bang you get for your buck & not only how much they have to spend but still how wisely they have to spend it!!

B) It's also great for the other clubs to see how much they need to spend to be around the mark or even just competetive!!

Although this is a hell of a lot of money for minor league clubs unfortunately this is where footy has headed over the last 20-25yrs & I can't see it turning back now, so clubs are in the awkward position that they either go for gold & spend up or bide their time & wait for that perfect opportunity to get the most from their buck!! :thumbsu:
 
Welcome to the real world KDFL! Nothing too mind blowing there.... I was having this conversation the other day with a mate that unless you have a real good band of locals for a decent tilt at a major league flag you'd want $175k plus and for a minor league $100k and a strong minor comp like the HDFL it would be 140k job these days. If 120K is the going rate to build a list to be right up there then I think Chillcott over at Longwood will get some good results because with his contacts both to pull recruits and cash he will nail that.
 
No problem with Hank putting out the budget on this forum.Only the under performing players or foolish committee members who pay dud players too much wouldnt want the average bloke to see where the $$$ dollars go at there local club.A well ran club with good playing list (which from afar I beleive Stanhope is)) would have no issues with budget being put out for all to see.Also doesnt guarantee money isnt paid by sponsors or supporters outside the budget which once again well run clubs would do if so desired.Best not worry what other clubs do or how much they pay and only worry what you can do to better your club.
 

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roundabout113 said:
Unfortunately for your smear campaign and trying to make the Stanhope Football Club look bad Hank you haven't consumed the information quite right as I had the sheet explained to me. There was one colum that noted that player payments for the year. another which noted Incentives which was reserves coaches and players, 3rds coaches and players and netball incentives as well I was told it didn't involve senior incentives, in another colum it noted Coaches and Trainers in together I'm not sure why it was listed like that. The paid players colum was closer to 80 than 90 and the Coaches combined didn't hit 100k so any referring to well over 100k and similar payments to Violet Town would be a big exaggeration. We won 3 finals and jumped 7 spots on the ladder and the Club is financial.

At a guessing point Violet Town would have hit 150k this year and Murchison 120k with Stanhope and Merrigum the next bracket back those Club's all needed to that and Nagambie are fortunate with all their good locals. Club's have varying local bases and fundraising capacities and unfortunately our local base at Stanhope isn't near what it use to be. The Kyabram League has been sheltered from spending but that was always going to change because when the surrounding competitions have so much money you are in competition with them to gain the player. The word on the street is that Lancaster are making some attractive offers to players more so than I've heard in previous years so they are adjusting themselves to try and get back in flag contention as well and the likes of Longwood, Ardmona and Avenel are making decent rises to their budgets as well apparently.
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Wow wee roundabout those are some large figures, would doubt highly that those two clubs would have been that high. I would say they are in a similar spot to Stanhope- Murch maybe less n VT alittle bit higher but wouldn't use those figures. Those three clubs would defiantly the top 3 spending clubs with merrigum behind them, but if clubs have the coin to spend, they will spend and good on em! It just comes down to the players the club gets and then the results at the end of the year.
 
roundabout113 said:
Unfortunately for your smear campaign and trying to make the Stanhope Football Club look bad Hank you haven't consumed the information quite right as I had the sheet explained to me. There was one colum that noted that player payments for the year. another which noted Incentives which was reserves coaches and players, 3rds coaches and players and netball incentives as well I was told it didn't involve senior incentives, in another colum it noted Coaches and Trainers in together I'm not sure why it was listed like that. The paid players colum was closer to 80 than 90 and the Coaches combined didn't hit 100k so any referring to well over 100k and similar payments to Violet Town would be a big exaggeration. We won 3 finals and jumped 7 spots on the ladder and the Club is financial.

At a guessing point Violet Town would have hit 150k this year and Murchison 120k with Stanhope and Merrigum the next bracket back those Club's all needed to that and Nagambie are fortunate with all their good locals. Club's have varying local bases and fundraising capacities and unfortunately our local base at Stanhope isn't near what it use to be. The Kyabram League has been sheltered from spending but that was always going to change because when the surrounding competitions have so much money you are in competition with them to gain the player. The word on the street is that Lancaster are making some attractive offers to players more so than I've heard in previous years so they are adjusting themselves to try and get back in flag contention as well and the likes of Longwood, Ardmona and Avenel are making decent rises to their budgets as well apparently.
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Well it is nice to guess I suppose:thumbsu: but way off the mark.
Our budget does not allow that sort of money.
We have various fundraising activities that need to be put into action each year. We do not spend more than what we can raise, and at this stage and previously 150k is well over our capacities.
A percentage of monies raised does also go to improvements. In the last 2 years as well as paying out exhorbitant amounts of money to players (so we are led to believe by those not in the know) we have also put in new lighting for both football and netball, a new outdoor BBQ and entertainment area adjacent to our clubrooms, new stainless steel kitchen and new coolroom complete with Glycol beer system.
It's called not sitting on your arses worrying what the other clubs are doing or spending.
 
hank1 said:
Just doing some research on our mate from the Herald-sun (trying to get a hold on who he is?) and he had figures for you guys and Nagambie in 2012 so maybe it isn't Stanhope and its one of those two clubs, both could possibly fit the BILL!!
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Maybe but we haven't had our AGM yet so if it was us I'm not sure as to where the figures came from as only a few would really now for sure. Certainly won't be leaving AGM reports around for all to see that's for sure.
 
smooth mover said:
I hear Troy Auld just pulled the pin on the Stanhope coaching job??
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Finger on the pulse Smooth.
By the way all of these figures came from an AGM where anyone can go to and find out these figures, anyone could go to any clubs AGM and find out the same details, was just interesting that one of the print outs was left for any Tom, Dick or Harry to see!!
 
jaxbac#13 said:
Maybe but we haven't had our AGM yet so if it was us I'm not sure as to where the figures came from as only a few would really now for sure. Certainly won't be leaving AGM reports around for all to see that's for sure.
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When is it Jax, might head over for a look;)
 
roundabout113 said:
Unfortunately for your smear campaign and trying to make the Stanhope Football Club look bad Hank you haven't consumed the information quite right as I had the sheet explained to me. There was one colum that noted that player payments for the year. another which noted Incentives which was reserves coaches and players, 3rds coaches and players and netball incentives as well I was told it didn't involve senior incentives, in another colum it noted Coaches and Trainers in together I'm not sure why it was listed like that. The paid players colum was closer to 80 than 90 and the Coaches combined didn't hit 100k so any referring to well over 100k and similar payments to Violet Town would be a big exaggeration. We won 3 finals and jumped 7 spots on the ladder and the Club is financial.

At a guessing point Violet Town would have hit 150k this year and Murchison 120k with Stanhope and Merrigum the next bracket back those Club's all needed to that and Nagambie are fortunate with all their good locals. Club's have varying local bases and fundraising capacities and unfortunately our local base at Stanhope isn't near what it use to be. The Kyabram League has been sheltered from spending but that was always going to change because when the surrounding competitions have so much money you are in competition with them to gain the player. The word on the street is that Lancaster are making some attractive offers to players more so than I've heard in previous years so they are adjusting themselves to try and get back in flag contention as well and the likes of Longwood, Ardmona and Avenel are making decent rises to their budgets as well apparently.
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Nice first post champ, you have the gall to sit there and say that Hank is on a smear campaign and didn't consume the info well enough, well I think you may have been consuming way too much of something else or smoking it. I hope your future posts improve. As for winning 3 finals, not sure how many really care who come's 2nd as Murch won and guess what, you didn't . I couldn't careless which club spends what as we only worry about what we have and how best we spend it..
 

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I think putting these figures on here says more about harro than the footy club. Anyone that has been involved in a footy club knows these details are to be kept in house. Maybe he could put his personal income summary for the last financial year on here, just in case some rumours and innuendo breaks out. Id be interested in the profit and loss statement from the tab.
 
Don Smallgoods said:
I think putting these figures on here says more about harro than the footy club. Anyone that has been involved in a footy club knows these details are to be kept in house. Maybe he could put his personal income summary for the last financial year on here, just in case some rumours and innuendo breaks out. Id be interested in the profit and loss statement from the tab.
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I hear the win v loss at the moment is quite good actually Small Goodies... And as its an Annual General Meeting all figures are put out on the table for all to see, anyone could walk off the street and attend. Same as all Business AGMs any AGM for that matter.

AGM - An annual general meeting (commonly abbreviated as AGM, also known as the annual meeting) is a meeting that official bodies, and associations involving the general public (including companies with shareholders), are often required by law (or the constitution, charter, by-laws etc. governing the body) to hold. An AGM is held every year to elect the board of directors and inform their members of previous and future activities. It is an opportunity for the shareholders and partners to receive copies of the company's accounts as well as reviewing fiscal information for the past year and asking any questions regarding the directions the business will take in the future.
 
Don Smallgoods said:
I think putting these figures on here says more about harro than the footy club. Anyone that has been involved in a footy club knows these details are to be kept in house. Maybe he could put his personal income summary for the last financial year on here, just in case some rumours and innuendo breaks out. Id be interested in the profit and loss statement from the tab.
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I think people having a handful of posts on here potting people who are prepared to put their name to their posts says a lot more about them than me!!;)

P.S. Settlement on a 2nd house has just gone through at 1pm today coincidently, still feeding 3 kids, so thanks for the interest, but all is well!:thumbsu:
 
Don't tell anyone where the new house is Hank. The neighbourhood will be crawling with men in balaclavas with stolen cars and fake number plates who will be out to get you!!

Ah kdl bigfooty and Hank. Just yesterday I was lamenting how boring this forum had become. Nothing to add but this is all very fun and amusing :p thanks!
 

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wheresyourdidak said:
Don't tell anyone where the new house is Hank. The neighbourhood will be crawling with men in balaclavas with stolen cars and fake number plates who will be out to get you!!

Ah kdl bigfooty and Hank. Just yesterday I was lamenting how boring this forum had become. Nothing to add but this is all very fun and amusing :p thanks!
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Just sit back and enjoy wheresyourdidak, look out if there's too many more rainy days, I may have to move onto something else to amuse me:thumbsu:. See you have added another couple of Mooroopna boys for 2014, both will be handy acquisitions for you.
 
smooth mover said:
Any names Hank? Obviously Didak probably won't say so can you share the info?
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Twos Ruckman Jake Ross, very good player. Rohan Hearn, play a few senior games mainly as a small fwd, quick and smart around the goals, mainly played onball in the twos.

Also FYI - Troy wasn't sacked, he stepped down
 
hank1 said:
Twos Ruckman Jake Ross, very good player. Rohan Hearn, play a few senior games mainly as a small fwd, quick and smart around the goals, mainly played onball in the twos.

Also FYI - Troy wasn't sacked, he stepped down
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Do you know much about their mate Stevenson? As he's coming too and I know very little about him.
 
wheresyourdidak said:
Do you know much about their mate Stevenson? As he's coming too and I know very little about him.
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Ah yes, did know Stevo was part of the package too, speedy wingman, uses the ball well, only played the first half of the season in the twos and didn't see him after that.
 
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