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Society/Culture Kyle Rittenhouse

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Soft Downhill Skier said:
So, use of the n word is used as justification for being murdered in this thread, in others ‘it’s just a word snowflakes…free speech’.


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How is it possible to be so disingenuous? You must be doing it intentionally.
 
Taylor said:
No, the violence brought against someone is justification for them defending themselves in a fashion that results in death.

Putting his penis in a boy under ten's body justified him being put in the ground years earlier. They are different things.
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If the law allows you to carry a gun, claimed to be threatened, and let’s you kill them, the law is ****ed.

Fine about the pedo. I feel the same about this murderer. I’d have no moral qualms if he meets a similar destiny. A better solution is if he spends his in a cell.
 
Soft Downhill Skier said:
If the law allows you to carry a gun, claimed to be threatened, and let’s you kill them, the law is f’ed.

Fine about the pedo. I feel the same about this murderer. I’d have no moral qualms if he meets a similar destiny. A better solution is if he spends his in a cell.
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Oh it's not a claim, it's on video, actually threatening and chasing and armed. If you're armed with a gun and are trying to get away from someone chasing you with a chain after being threatening and clearly deranged but they continue after you, they've made their choice.

If you walk up to someone and they move to make you flinch so you blow them away, that's wrong.

If you walk by someone and they scream at you, so you keep moving so they chase you and you fear for your life. Chitty chitty bang bang.
 
Soft Downhill Skier said:
If the law allows you to carry a gun, claimed to be threatened, and let’s you kill them, the law is f’ed.

Fine about the pedo. I feel the same about this murderer. I’d have no moral qualms if he meets a similar destiny. A better solution is if he spends his in a cell.
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He didn’t claim to be threatened. He was threatened with multiple witnesses. This is the exact reason to have gun laws. This case is a joke and is the probably one of the clearest self defence case ever.
 

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Soft Downhill Skier said:
He was politically radicalised against those seeking a political solution.
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The facts don't match this narrative at all. The shot anarchists were not seeking a political solution to anything. They were rioting. Rittenhouse was doing community service and the bad guys tried to bash/murder him.
 
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scoman said:
Absolute scenes in the courtroom. His closing remarks were quite biazzare as well.
Was the prosecution able to find any witnesses or decent vision that suggested Rittenhouse was threatening people prior to the incident with Rosenbaum? You would think with all the people there and the amount of vision that was captured, it would have been presented if it existed. Would have turned the case on its head.
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I kinda feel for the guy. He’s been given a horrendous job to do and has to pretend like there is substance to his words when there clearly isn’t and he is failing to act to a believable standard.
 
Soft Downhill Skier said:
This is in the politics thread and you’re expressing political opinions. He was politically radicalised against those seeking a political solution.

But you’re above politics.
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Irrelevant. His self defence was warranted based on being attacked not his politics.
 
Stop being w***ers.

It’s ****ing unusual for someone to lionise this blue lives bullshit enough to carry a gun around. He’s a coward without the skills to handle anything.

You’re giving him the treatment reserved for these white guy killers. The onion couldn’t write a better headline than calling him a medic etc etc.

He’ll get off, but if karma exists, he’s ****ed.
 
Soft Downhill Skier said:
If the law allows you to carry a gun, claimed to be threatened, and let’s you kill them, the law is f’ed.
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Finally you are prepared to deal with the topic. I'm almost with you on this.

I don't think the law should allow you to carry a gun. But I think even if they tried to change that it would take a generation at least to see the majority of people accept that change. The worry for many would be finding themselves in a situation where someone is carrying a firearm (illegally at that point) and they aren't. There are just so many guns.

The law doesn't allow you to just claim you were attacked. The prosecutor has to prove you weren't and/ or your actions were unreasonable. I'm this case I don't think he has managed to do that.
 

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Soft Downhill Skier said:
Stop being w***ers.

It’s ******* unusual for someone to lionise this blue lives bullshit enough to carry a gun around. He’s a coward without the skills to handle anything.

You’re giving him the treatment reserved for these white guy killers. The onion couldn’t write a better headline than calling him a medic etc etc.

He’ll get off, but if karma exists, he’s f’ed.
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You can be appalled by his politics and appalled by his lack of judgement. That's fine. I think most people are, including me. But are you arguing that this disqualifies him from having the right to defend himself?
 
It is fascinating to watch the knots folks tie themselves in to cling to their ideological positions.

Looks to me like Rittenhouse made a series of very poor decisions, none of which entitled anyone to threaten his life, pursue him or attempt to do violence to him.
 
RookiePick said:
It is fascinating to watch the knots folks tie themselves in to cling to their ideological positions.

Looks to me like Rittenhouse made a series of very poor decisions, none of which entitled anyone to threaten his life, pursue him or attempt to do violence to him.
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The only value in threads like this is purely comedic.
 
In the end, it's hard not to believe that if it was a couple of alt-right people who chased an active BLM-affiliated shooter down the road they would be lauded for their bravery while the blow-in lefty with the assault rifle would be the bad guy and an example of the fall of civilization.

It's not hard to believe that at all.
 

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scoman said:
The law doesn't allow you to just claim you were attacked. The prosecutor has to prove you weren't and/ or your actions were unreasonable. I'm this case I don't think he has managed to do that.
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You don’t have to prove you were?
 
Another big reason Rittenhouse will be aquitted is the DA. Rushed to charge in less than 72hrs based purely on political pressure. Usually take weeks to months to get the evidence together to charge someone.

Probably could have nailed Rittenhouse with the correct charges to see him do time.

Chief said:
In the end, it's hard not to believe that if it was a couple of alt-right people who chased an active BLM-affiliated shooter down the road they would be lauded for their bravery while the blow-in lefty with the assault rifle would be the bad guy and an example of the fall of civilization.

It's not hard to believe that at all.
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Why can't you just judge something for what the facts say it is rather than always through a racial or political prism.
 
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