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Society/Culture Kyle Rittenhouse

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Chief said:
OK we’ll assume it’s not relevant.
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I actually do think you know what I'm trying to say.

You are deliberately trying to play down the riots. They may have started as a protest but they weren't when Rittenhouse was there. Cars were on fire, shops were being looted and the school was on fire.

I know it started as a BLM protest and who knows what it was later. - guessing a mixture of all bad elements coning together. But trying to talk it down as a rally is deliberately trying to overstate Rittenhouse's reaction.

I 100% agree he shouldnt have been there and honestly don't really care what happens in the case but trying to make it out Rittenhouse turned up to a peaceful rally is just been untruthful.
 
Gough said:
It's instructive that the biggest gun control measure in America in living memory has come not from the wholesale slaughter of the last fifty years but because the sight of the Black Panthers using their right to bear arms in public so scared Reagan that as Governor of California he passed a law banning it. You can't blame this on the Second Amendment, as seen above, gun control can be easily achieved when there's willing.
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As Dave Chappelle said in his sticks and stones show.

“Every able-bodied African-American must register for a legal firearm. That’s the only way they’ll change the law.”
 

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scoman said:
Im not sure you know what 'in cold blood' means. Your use of the term here is like saying a fighter has 'coward punched' or 'king hit' his opponent during a boxing match.
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It's a somewhat moot point coming from Adelaide but if people are rioting near mine I stay at home. I don't take a gun that's illegal for me to have, go to Murray Bridge, and make my own decisions on who gets to live or die.
 
The Passenger said:
As Dave Chappelle said in his sticks and stones show.

“Every able-bodied African-American must register for a legal firearm. That’s the only way they’ll change the law.”
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It's shit like this that made the crap in his latest show so disappointing, he's better than that.
 
ChappyUK said:
I actually do think you know what I'm trying to say.

You are deliberately trying to play down the riots. They may have started as a protest but they weren't when Rittenhouse was there. Cars were on fire, shops were being looted and the school was on fire.

I know it started as a BLM protest and who knows what it was later. - guessing a mixture of all bad elements coning together. But trying to talk it down as a rally is deliberately trying to overstate Rittenhouse's reaction.

I 100% agree he shouldnt have been there and honestly don't really care what happens in the case but trying to make it out Rittenhouse turned up to a peaceful rally is just been untruthful.
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The rights and wrongs of the actual rally/riot are irrelevant to this discussion and to the major issue, which is what you have said yourself (in bold).

If anything, the more volatile the situation - another point you keep making - the greater the reason he shouldn't have been there.

Ie - peaceful rally and he wants to attend (unarmed) and offer water, medical support, etc - fine. I doubt if anyone would have issue with that. But a riot? Or violent rally? (Or however you want to characterize it). You go along playing tough guy cop armed with an assault rifle and you are asking for trouble. And, unsurprisingly, that's what he got and three other people got bullets in the process.

In summary, two people are dead because the wannabe tough guy played vigilante. If he had stayed at home, where he belonged, these two killings wouldn't have occurred. It's as simple as that.
 
Gough said:
It's sh*t like this that made the crap in his latest show so disappointing, he's better than that.
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Making people that are too lazy and dumb to listen to it all properly and understand what he said completely embarrass themselves is some of Dave's finest work :thumbsu:
 
sherb said:
The rights and wrongs of the actual rally/riot are irrelevant to this discussion and to the major issue, which is what you have said yourself (in bold).

If anything, the more volatile the situation - another point you keep making - the greater the reason he shouldn't have been there.

Ie - peaceful rally and he wants to attend (unarmed) and offer water, medical support, etc - fine. I doubt if anyone would have issue with that. But a riot? Or violent rally? (Or however you want to characterize it). You go along playing tough guy cop armed with an assault rifle and you are asking for trouble. And, unsurprisingly, that's what he got and three other people got bullets in the process.

In summary, two people are dead because the wannabe tough guy played vigilante. If he had stayed at home, where he belonged, these two killings wouldn't have occurred. It's as simple as that.
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If the riots irrelevant why is race being brought into the discussion?

I would think you'd mostly likely have 3 or more murders instead of two fatalities due to self defence if Rittenhouse wasn't there.
 

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ChappyUK said:
If the riots irrelevant why is race being brought into the discussion?

I would think you'd mostly likely have 3 or more murders instead of two fatalities due to self defence if Rittenhouse wasn't there.
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Why are you fixated on race? Let it go.
 
ChappyUK said:
This is huge progress Well done
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I put up a long post about the situation - not mentioning race - and your response?

Race.

Start making some progress yourself.
 
What is the pro-Rittenhouse position in this thread?

I mean, there may we be an element of self-defence but WTF was he doing there with an AR-15 in the first place?

That's not sufficient to prove homicide but it should surely dissuade folks from defending him too enthusiastically?
 
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And weeks before there's a video of him saying he wanted to shoot people leaving a pharmacy.

www.insider.com

Kyle Rittenhouse was recorded weeks before the Kenosha shooting saying he wished he 'had my f---ing AR' to shoot at people leaving CVS, prosecutors say

Kenosha prosecutors say a new video provides "crucial insight" into Kyle Rittenhouse's vigilante state of mind in summer 2020.
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Such a good Samaritan this young guy. What a pinnacle of society.

(Fortunately for him, it's not been allowed to be shown at his trial).
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Gave it a couple of days but this one was left through to the keeper. (Not surprised - if I were defending the "good samaritan" I wouldn't want to touch it either.)
 
Gough said:
It's a somewhat moot point coming from Adelaide but if people are rioting near mine I stay at home. I don't take a gun that's illegal for me to have, go to Murray Bridge, and make my own decisions on who gets to live or die.
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Of course your scenario is highly unlikely to be undertaken in Australia given that:

A. You would need to pay about 25k on the black market to purchase a similar rifle Rittenhouse used..!
B. No sooner had you arrived at Murray Bridge with such a weapon about 30 people would be calling 000..!
C. If you were still somehow alive 15 minutes later, not riddled with bullets from a TRG officer, it would be a small miracle..!

Conversely - we are talking about a nation where double barrel shotguns are popular 18th birthday gifts..! OK son, now I've written a note on the fridge as a reminder; "Don't shoot yourself, your mother, your sister or me, got it!"
 
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It's all about policing. When riots start and police try and contain rather than stop, something will always fill the void. Usually it's people taking the law into their own hands.

I was stuck in the middle of the London riots. Lived about 50m from the road leading from Tottenham to Dalston. We were in a fairly exposed basement flat so was pretty scary.

The police decided to not stop them and just contain them to the main road.

This caused substantial unnecessary damage. One 150yo family furniture business was set alight.

Then because the Met weren't doing their job, people stood up. Every Turkish shop - which there are plenty - grabbed their doner knives and stood out in front of their's and others shop and said 'Try it'

Stopped the a lot of damage in the area and the rioters dispersed.
 
sherb said:
Exactly, we've all done it. Poor Kyle is so misunderstood.

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the whole “he travelled interstate” arguement is the biggest cop out going around. It’s literally 30km away. Most people commute that each morning. He also had close family living in Kenosha including his dad
 
RedVest4 said:
the whole “he travelled interstate” arguement is the biggest cop out going around. It’s literally 30km away. Most people commute that each morning. He also had close family living in Kenosha including his dad
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Where was he in the video allegedly hitting a girl? Kenosha
Where was he when he allegedly threatened people outside a pharmacy? Kenosha

Seems he spent a bit of time there.
 
Trial wrapping up Monday and will be acquitted by Monday night. Absolutely clear case of self defence and then the fun starts when he goes after media and leftist politicians who have defamed him. I’d start with Joe Biden
 

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