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Oh dear lord. That can't be serious. The zombies just fall over instead of flying back awesomely and they disappear immediately. What a let down.

Will the steam downloaded version have the same issue?
 
melbournemartin said:
Oh dear lord. That can't be serious. The zombies just fall over instead of flying back awesomely and they disappear immediately. What a let down.

Will the steam downloaded version have the same issue?
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Yes.

They have a filter thing on Steam so you'll be getting the edited version.
 
I like how instead of giving Australians a normal pipe bomb they have given us an advanced time warp bomb which instantly transports the infected a thousand years into the future. :rolleyes:

Seriously this is a joke, I played through the demo, cant blow the heads off the infected point blank with a shotgun, and (lol) apparently in the 360 version you get automatically kicked if your playing on a non Australia server.

Saving my cash for MW2.
 

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Two more days bitches!! If I buy from Play-Asia, will it work for me on Steam? :)
 
I used the text editing to uncensor the pc demo, and I have to say, it's a whole lot more violent than L4D1. Entrails, decapitations, it's pretty gory (though no more gory than the original Dawn or Day of the Dead flicks). The watered down version kills the experience, esp with the bodies fading away before they hit the ground and the lack of riot cops...
 
I just watched a video comparison. The censored version isn't worth playing. It's shocking. I just dearly hope that it can be hacked like the demo was.

I'm not particularly surprised that it was censored but how the hell did Modern Warfare 2 get through untouched? In one of the levels, you play as a terrorist and slaughter a large group of civillians in cold blood in an airport. Surely that's a bit closer to home than slashing a few zombies.
 
Forrest Gimp said:
I used the text editing to uncensor the pc demo, and I have to say, it's a whole lot more violent than L4D1. Entrails, decapitations, it's pretty gory (though no more gory than the original Dawn or Day of the Dead flicks). The watered down version kills the experience, esp with the bodies fading away before they hit the ground and the lack of riot cops...
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When I edited the config files and tried to play it came up as "failed to validate steam account" or something.
 
Alright. So here is the letter that Mr Atkinson wrote to a Kotaku Australia reader about game censorship.

http://www.mediafire.com/?zdud1mzjufy

Or you can read the main part from Kotaku

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2009/11/a-letter-from-michael-atkinson/

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God that ALP douche is a ****wit.

His argument is, R18+ games can't not be policed by the parents. He then goes on to say with games like Borderlands which is R18+ overseas and MA15+ here. "It's up to the parents to decide if a game is suitable for kids".
 

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I think that the intent and story of a game has a greater impact than the actual action.

What is worse, the Modern Warfare 2 mission where you play as a terrorist and slaughter a group of civillian hostages at point blank in an airport...or Left 4 Dead 2 where you kill, albeit violently, some mindless zombies? L4D2 gets censored until the cows come home but MW2 is a best-selling game.
 
Michael Atkinson: "I am concerned about the level of violence in society and the widespread acceptance of simulated violence as a form of entertainment."
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I agree with this sentence - I am concerned too, as I think most people would be. But I think it's obvious that the problem comes before video games, and that he's using games as a scapegoat.

As I've said before, why doesn't he try to fix the world first? All he is doing is giving himself a way to say "I am doing something about it", so he can wash his hands of it, and ignore the real problem, and make himself feel better.

If he needs something a little smaller in scale than the world, then why not TV shows like the News or Jackass, or the internet, which all show reality, and would have a far worse impact IMO. But again, like games, they're more the product of the problem, not the problem itself.

In the full letter, it has figures for the percentage of games which fell under each rating classification for 2007-2008. Games refused classification were 0.5% of games during that period. Does this not prove that video games are not the problem, or at the most a very insignificant part of it? I remember games in the 90's being refused classification - I don't think having no R-rated is working somehow. How would we know anyway?



"Children are the most computer literate and computer savvy group in our society...."
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What a load of crap. I am 33 and have grown up with computers (and games) all of my life. I work with computers every day, and have done so all of my working life. I doubt a child would have the knowledge or experience with computers that I do, and I have nowhere near the knowledge or experience that many people do when it comes to computers.

All that sentence proves to me, is he (and his social group) know bugger all about computers and games, and therefore his children know more.



The sentence following the previous one I quoted is....

"I watch my own children become obsessed with games and I can find it difficult to drag them away from the gaming console"
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What has this got to do with R-rated games? As I've also said before, part of his problem seems to be with video games in general, not R-rated games.
 

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Gamers 4 Croydon Rebuttal

http://www.gamers4croydon.org/news/athoughtfulrebuttal

last paragraph:

What Mr Atkinson's letter demonstrates is little more than that he has a prejudice against violent video games. Much of the 'evidence' he provides to support his claim is dubious or patently false, and it shows a much greater interest in distracting people with emotive arguments than thoughtful consideration of available information. While he is of course entitled to dislike violence in video games (and any other media for that matter), his personal distaste is not sufficient reason to curtail the rights of responsible adults, expose minors to adult content, and ignore the opinions of an overwhelming majority of Australians.


He is, after all, supposed to be a representative.
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