Life

[Roobs321]

You reading my posts? I'm going to go see Taylor Swift again. I don't have an issue in liking things potentially 'lame' or sticking my neck out. Happy to no longer see friends I don't actually get along with that well, happy to move on, happy to take a risk.

This thread also isn't about 'drop everything and go travelling!' because that's not how the world works. You need money. It's a fact. Money can be a great thing and the comfort it brings via a house and food is important, but it's the shit that it creates that keeps us oppressed.

This thread isn't about 'work life balance' or some horseshit, it's about the sort of conspiracy that money has made most of us absolute peasants and slaves to trends and technology but unlike the classic peasants of ancient Greece and Egypt, we are peasants whore refuse to believe we are. Those people hurling bricks in the heat, but they had no illusions of joining royalty. We're told every day that we could be famous because an ugly ginger ****** shorter than us is selling out 20 stadium shows in our country. We're told we could be hot like a model if we just dropped all this weight. But we're also told every time we go out and drink a Becks, we'll stay out until 5am and climb out some blonde's bed and walk home. We're being teased by both sides of the fence and seduced completely... you can't be saying yes to ubereats and then saying yes to losing weight and being of clean mind and happiness. You're being teased constantly and fundamentally ****** over.

And even if I thought the answer was to go travelling again, you can't just come back and expect it to solve the answer. It doesn't.

You can't abandon life either. The closest to that is living with your parents with a Centrelink pay so low, that you'd basically have to sit at home every single day, have no games to play on your playstation, no mobile phone to pay off, no nothing.

The other only option is sitting on a street somewhere, begging for money which people rightfully don't give to you because you know what – they work ****in hard for their money, and why should they give it to someone else? – and then you end up cold and sick and dead.

This world is designed to seduce it and **** us over with our own choices and desires, constrained and constricted by our own wants and greed.

Life is what you make it, and whilst the world is largely organised a certain imperfect way, the freedoms, communal sharing, quotidian delights and enriching impacts are all out there to be found. Digitally detox, get in touch with nature, stimulate the mind and find enjoyment in your present (getting out of a big city rut might also be helpful if possible). Find a way to contribute or bring some peace to yourself.

Beware the overuse of 'we', you don't want to turn into the next Smiling Buddha forumer who assumed the herd rat-race drone in us all. Your woke points don't necessarily apply to everyone else's experience, although they do speak well and you touch on some perennial existential questions. A lot of people pay minimal attention to the various forms of media or advertising, they just carve out and live their own lives, are able to critique the world around them, compromise where necessary, simplify their life and live accordingly. Whilst a lot of people out there do suck at the teat of a comfortably numb Channel 7 style existence, pulpit in their own silos, or live in their social media, a lot of us are good at stepping back and finding some sort of balance.

Early twenties not long out of uni and without much experience beyond retail is a small world view just waiting to expand and see things differently. It can be a struggle for the regular young person these days, but young people in the past also had their own challenges to contend with. Your life has barely begun.

You may have just discovered your work ethic, which builds resilience and opens up adaptability and various other doors. I remember doing a Bachelor's degree faster than full-time pace whilst I was working a demanding full-time government career of 40-60 hours a week, you just need to locate that energising drive and motivation to change and explore other ways of living.

Don't fall into the trap of blaming everything in the world around you, take responsibility for your own life and look into yourself for some answers. These frustrations will also come and go through your life, no matter how presentably happy and successful or off-the-grid you may be. But even if you hit some dead ends along the way, live your life in a way that allows you to look back with contentment, gratitude and sense of having participated in the world around you.

 

[edgie]

Yes, take happiness from small things, don't let small things phase you, whatever.

I am happy. That isn't the issue.

This is about the bigger 'conspiracy' that life is not supporting you, that you can't ever really rise up, that everyone is designed to keep you down but keep you thinking you're just about to hit that point where everything falls into place.

Of course 'we' can't rise up, we have no guns. Violence is the only real language of change.

Sent from mTalk

 

[Bunk Moreland]

You reading my posts? I'm going to go see Taylor Swift again. I don't have an issue in liking things potentially 'lame' or sticking my neck out. Happy to no longer see friends I don't actually get along with that well, happy to move on, happy to take a risk.

This thread also isn't about 'drop everything and go travelling!' because that's not how the world works. You need money. It's a fact. Money can be a great thing and the comfort it brings via a house and food is important, but it's the shit that it creates that keeps us oppressed.

This thread isn't about 'work life balance' or some horseshit, it's about the sort of conspiracy that money has made most of us absolute peasants and slaves to trends and technology but unlike the classic peasants of ancient Greece and Egypt, we are peasants whore refuse to believe we are. Those people hurling bricks in the heat, but they had no illusions of joining royalty. We're told every day that we could be famous because an ugly ginger ****** shorter than us is selling out 20 stadium shows in our country. We're told we could be hot like a model if we just dropped all this weight. But we're also told every time we go out and drink a Becks, we'll stay out until 5am and climb out some blonde's bed and walk home. We're being teased by both sides of the fence and seduced completely... you can't be saying yes to ubereats and then saying yes to losing weight and being of clean mind and happiness. You're being teased constantly and fundamentally ****** over.

And even if I thought the answer was to go travelling again, you can't just come back and expect it to solve the answer. It doesn't.

You can't abandon life either. The closest to that is living with your parents with a Centrelink pay so low, that you'd basically have to sit at home every single day, have no games to play on your playstation, no mobile phone to pay off, no nothing.

The other only option is sitting on a street somewhere, begging for money which people rightfully don't give to you because you know what – they work ****in hard for their money, and why should they give it to someone else? – and then you end up cold and sick and dead.

This world is designed to seduce it and **** us over with our own choices and desires, constrained and constricted by our own wants and greed.

So what are you doing about it?

And “there’s nothing I can do” isn’t an acceptable answer - it’s an answer for people with delusions of grandeur who think nothing but leading a global revolution will mean anything.

What’s one small difference you can start to make? Go and start it.

 

[WCErevival]

Is this a quarter life crisis?

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Is this a quarter life crisis?

As much as it's easy to hang shit on the OP - maybe he deserves it - it is something that affects a larger amount of people of the younger generation.

Those born after say, 1980, are pretty much the first white Australians since the first fleet that are looking at a lower quality of life than their parents. It can get people down and of course those older than them won't understand.

 

[rank and file]

There has been a few songs mentioned and thread needs a soundtrack.
Kill yourself now and avoid the rush by TISM would be my contribution.

 

[WCErevival]

As much as it's easy to hang shit on the OP - maybe he deserves it - it is something that affects a larger amount of people of the younger generation.

Those born after say, 1980, are pretty much the first white Australians since the first fleet that are looking at a lower quality of life than their parents. It can get people down and of course those older than them won't understand.

I'm born after 1980 and I'm fine. So is my partner. Most people are just lazy or dont have there priorities in check. Too busy wasting their money on shit.

 

[blueboy25]

As much as it's easy to hang shit on the OP - maybe he deserves it - it is something that affects a larger amount of people of the younger generation.

Those born after say, 1980, are pretty much the first white Australians since the first fleet that are looking at a lower quality of life than their parents. It can get people down and of course those older than them won't understand.

Sweet, I was born in 1979.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I'm born after 1980 and I'm fine. So is my partner. Most people are just lazy or dont have there priorities in check. Too busy wasting their money on shit.

Nobody said plenty of people aren't 'fine'. I'm more than fine myself.

But improvements in the standard and cost of living are a big deal in the so-called 'lucky country'. Generation after generation in Australia has experienced this and it has a real impact on sentiment. I'm just saying the POV of the OP isn't that rare among younger people - particularly as they're made to feel like nobody (older folk) understands.

 

[Stratton_Gun]

I'm a strong believer that life gets worse as you get older. No matter what you have you always want more its just natural

I'm 25 now. A couple of years ago people were doing so many different things. Some working, some studying, some overseas etc etc. Tjese days pretty much everyone is "just working".
Need money to buy thay nice house and car that you will never be able to afford.
Was thinking about buying a house or at least considering it until a mate who has 60k and makes $40/ said he could only borrow $450k which these days gets you very little

 

[Silent Alarm]

There has been a few songs mentioned and thread needs a soundtrack.
Kill yourself now and avoid the rush by TISM would be my contribution.

Sweet, I was born in 1979.

I'm a strong believer that life gets worse as you get older. No matter what you have you always want more its just natural

I'm 25 now. A couple of years ago people were doing so many different things. Some working, some studying, some overseas etc etc. Tjese days pretty much everyone is "just working".
Need money to buy thay nice house and car that you will never be able to afford.
Was thinking about buying a house or at least considering it until a mate who has 60k and makes $40/ said he could only borrow $450k which these days gets you very little

Yeah, live at home until you're 26 to try and save 60 grand before moving out to an area that'll make St Albans look like Fitzroy.

In a way it's another interesting thing... the Australian system still says 'get a house! Have a backyard!' but it's just not compatible with city living, and what's the point of living an hour and a half out of the CBD while still being in the city limits? You may as well be in the country where it's cheaper.

I'm of a similar age and a lot of my mates' have parents who are downsizing. Both kids are in uni, they're both essentially out of home, and a lot have moved from decent areas (Floreat, Camberwell) to small units basically either on the cusp of the CBD or across the road from a beach. My parents did the same. Older people are happier to live in smaller places and not stress about mowing the lawn, and to give up some things to gain others. I don't get why young people don't? The ones I know who are looking at houses have a ****ing weird idea... looking to buy houses in outer areas that will never be desirable (at least take a punt and buy in a middle ring suburb that's currently anonymous/shitty and hope it gentrifies) all because they want a big house and a carport and shit. I don't get it at all.

I don't agree life gets worse. While being a student and living in the inner suburbs, renting, drinking four times a week is a suspended half-life that's pretty carefree and easy to throwaway as 'I can do this, I don't need money or plans, I'm studying' is great, life can be rewarding. At 30 you don't want to be spewing in a nightclub toilet to drink more. You want to feel rewarded for other things. You want a different set of achievements, daily and in terms of plans. I dunno.

 

[Silent Alarm]

I dunno, am I the only person who has conceded they'll never buy a house? Sad reality but I'll be waiting until my parents are gone to inherit one.

 

[perthblue]

Just because you won't own a house in your 20's doesn't mean you never will. I swear people work full-time for 10 seconds and they suddenly feel they need to get a mortgage. Just relax a bit.

 

[Silent Alarm]

Just because you won't own a house in your 20's doesn't mean you never will. I swear people work full-time for 10 seconds and they suddenly feel they need to get a mortgage. Just relax a bit.

How are you supposed to save when you're paying rent somewhere else though?

 

[Nothing]

I dunno, am I the only person who has conceded they'll never buy a house? Sad reality but I'll be waiting until my parents are gone to inherit one.

SA, I assume you're still in Perth? You could buy this place whilst on NewStart (almost). Repayments of ~$250/wk. I did with one from the same complex when I was your age.

https://www.realestate.com.au/property-apartment-wa-west+perth-127424346

It's 5 minutes walk to Leederville, free transit zone to city, 5 minute uber to Mt Lawley and 10 minutes drive to the beach.

If you want your own place, maybe you need to temper your expectations.

 

[Silent Alarm]

SA, I assume you're still in Perth? You could buy this place whilst on NewStart (almost). Repayments of ~$250/wk. I did with one from the same complex when I was your age.

https://www.realestate.com.au/property-apartment-wa-west+perth-127424346

It's 5 minutes walk to Leederville, free transit zone to city, 5 minute uber to Mt Lawley and 10 minutes drive to the beach.

If you want your own place, maybe you need to temper your expectations.

How is West Perth tempered expectations?!

That is a ****in steal though.

(Would rather live near the beach in Freo tho, pretty picky...)

 

[Strange Cat]

Simple move to the country and buy a cheaper house and have a easier job

I actually got an easier job that paid more than what I would had if I stayed in the city.

Life is what you make of it

 

[Nothing]

How is West Perth tempered expectations?!

That is a ****in steal though.

(Would rather live near the beach in Freo tho, pretty picky...)

That part of West Perth is oft forgotten. There's a stack of apartments in that area. Some are pretty old (1960s/70s) which detract from the area. If you are willing to go high rise there are even cheaper ones (that one linked is in a 3 story building). Often the mortgages on these places will be similar tot he rent you would pay for one.

There's similar in Freo with ones on Adelaide St from ~$250K.

 

[JackOutback]

How is West Perth tempered expectations?!

That is a ****in steal though.

(Would rather live near the beach in Freo tho, pretty picky...)

Therein lies the problem; you absolutely can buy a house, you just want something brilliant first up and are blaming the system for not being able to do so. Despite perceptions, previous generations didn't get to either.

You can have a big house with a big backyard for under 300k a fair way from Perth. You can have a modest apartment close to the city/Freo for not much more. You could move to the country. There's plenty of options. Sure, the rich have more, but we have more than almost every soul that has come before us.

 

[craigos]

Sounds to me like you need to get out of the city Silent Alarm....Simplify your life by getting in touch with nature again I say....Best way to re-connect with our own soul is to re-connect to the earth.

Along these lines minus the rubbing menstrual blood on our faces to re-connect (don't google that) agree with above.

For me when I get into a bit of rut I often tend to grab a couple of beers and head out into the bush somewhere, even though I live in Melbourne there are plenty of parks around where you can go for a walk and find a secluded spot and sit down and just enjoy the quiet (without looking like a homeless dude cranking one out in the trees).

I am stuck in a job in an industry I have been trying to get out of for 2 years!! Changing careers when you have no experience is seemingly impossible whereas it seemed to be achievable 10 years ago. For me I am struggling to see how I am going to change things without doing something drastic and leaving everything behind and just venturing to a remote village somewhere in Africa.

Making a plan is something you should do. Write down things that you enjoy, things you hate and then try and figure out what you could do to earn a living that involves doing more things from the enjoy column.

A man without a plan is a man without direction

 

[Scotland]

"I think it was John Lennon who once said 'life is what happens when you're making other plans', and that's exactly the way I feel. Although he also said 'I am the walrus, I am the eggman', so I don't know what to believe."

"I just think, well, I dunno, if you look at life like, ah, rolling a dice then my situation now, as it stands, yeah, it may only be a three. If I jack that in now, go for something bigger and better, yeah, I could easily roll a six. No problem. I could roll a six. I could also roll a one. Kay, so.. I think sometimes just leave the dice alone."

 

[Brad Goodman]

Give up blood sports?

Ead

I don't fancy doing either of those things.

 

[Brad Goodman]

Silent Alarm have a read of Mark Manson's The Subtle Art of Not Giving a ****. I was going through a similar rut at the end of last year, and it helped me out of it.

Got this one on the to-read list. I have a feeling I already live by most of what it will say but it's good to get other perspectives on it all.

 

[Catfish Alley]

Seems to be a lot of comments about just buying a house. Most do it on a dual income to make it more affordable.

I think the OP is pretty young. You need to have some goals to strive for but let life unfold a little bit. Get a few full-time jobs under your belt and work out what you like/are good at. Opportunities will come up. But keep developing and enjoying outside interests as well.

 

[Silent Alarm]

This thread is more about the way life is not designed to get any of us ahead and everything is designed to keep us controlled and down.