List Mgmt. List Management 2024-25

[Long live PAFC]

Not sure if we have a trade thread yet.

FA list is out. Graham would still be handy. Ainsworth and Hayward would be very hand in our forward line - surprised they are on the coin to make them restricted free agents. Parfitt has the port connection - not sure if he fits in our midfield? Perryman ain’t moving.

No real small forwards.

 

[It Just Is]

We don’t want for much.

As of round 3, I’d say small forward and wing look our least settled positions. Stengle and Perryman would be a clear upgrade on what we have currently but it’s a salary cap league and we must be a little tighter after bringing in 4 players last year.

Perryman I think is a terrific footballer.

Someone like Dion Prestia

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Dion Prestia

Age

31

Ht

175cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

24.1

5star

K

12.7

5star

HB

11.4

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

21.2

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

10.8

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.2

5star

CL

3.2

4star

D

12.8

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

6.8

5star

M

3.2

4star

T

3.0

5star

CL

1.4

4star

in a playing/coaching role could be worth a look. I’d like us to start treating the sub as a specialist position rather than the 23rd player. It should either be someone fast and attacking or an experienced ball winner in my opinion.

We could easily trade out a half back too.

 

[davesnothere]

Parfitt I think we've always liked.

His defensive game is outstanding he does work his backside off. Could possibly run him of the wing though the middle?

We'd enquire but being only 25 and the Cats list being where it is at I don't see him going anywhere.

 

[philthy05]

How would Graham be handy?

We cant fit mids into our midfield already?

mead can barely fit in our 22, and we’ve still got sinn and Jackson outside our 22. Bergman can’t even get a game on ball. If Graham wanted to play for the magpies in a leadership role great, but we’re not signing a free agent for that.

Parfitt also, he’s not a wingman at all. He’s a bit of a weird one, not really good enough to start in our midfield , would just be depth. Would he come here to be depth? Do we want to spend free agent money on depth?

 

[Long live PAFC]

How would Graham be handy?

We cant fit mids into our midfield already?

mead can barely fit in our 22, and we’ve still got sinn and Jackson outside our 22. Bergman can’t even get a game on ball. If Graham wanted to play for the magpies in a leadership role great, but we’re not signing a free agent for that.

Parfitt also, he’s not a wingman at all. He’s a bit of a weird one, not really good enough to start in our midfield , would just be depth. Would he come here to be depth? Do we want to spend free agent money on depth?

I’m not so sold on our depth.

Rozee, Butters, Drew and JHF are a brilliant quartet. Bergmann seems destined for HBF/Wing/HFF type role rather than centre mid - but could be wrong.

Boak is nearing the end. Wines was average at best last year and his knees may limit his longevity. Mead and Sinn I’m bullish on, Jackson really impressed me last year, however none are settled at AFL or have shown they can be a starting centre mid. Jackson and Sinn can barely get on the park.

When JHF came out of the side he was replaced with Burgoyne… SPP was replaced McEntee who was replaced by Evans who was replaced by Williams - not quite but you get my point.

Just don’t think we have the midfield or small forward depth we need.

We also have no early picks. So Hayward or Ainsworth in a HFF role or Graham or, maybe, Parfitt in a midfield role - gives us the depth without needing picks. They would all be starting 22 comfortably.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

I am pretty happy with the list at the moment but will do a bit of a deep dive when I have the time.

The majority of our best players are young so we have the possibility of a long, strong window ahead of us.

 

[TazD]

Would Hardwick be a good option as an actual defensive half back?

 

[philthy05]

I’m not so sold on our depth.

Rozee, Butters, Drew and JHF are a brilliant quartet. Bergmann seems destined for HBF/Wing/HFF type role rather than centre mid - but could be wrong.

Boak is nearing the end. Wines was average at best last year and his knees may limit his longevity. Mead and Sinn I’m bullish on, Jackson really impressed me last year, however none are settled at AFL or have shown they can be a starting centre mid. Jackson and Sinn can barely get on the park.

When JHF came out of the side he was replaced with Burgoyne… SPP was replaced McEntee who was replaced by Evans who was replaced by Williams - not quite but you get my point.

Just don’t think we have the midfield or small forward depth we need.

We also have no early picks. So Hayward or Ainsworth in a HFF role or Graham or, maybe, Parfitt in a midfield role - gives us the depth without needing picks. They would all be starting 22 comfortably.

You think Graham or parfitt are starting 22 comfortably?

lol.

As I it is we’re trying to wedge mead into the 22 and arguably we’re only doing that cause we don’t have a proper wingman in better form so we’re picking a centre mid and trying to fit him in somewhere.

As soon as spp is back it will be even harder for mead to keep his spot.

And mead is in pretty decent form as well.

Bergman has shown he’s very capable of rolling through the middle, and if we had an injury crisis I would put him in the middle over Jack Graham every day of the week.


Graham and parfitt are nothing other than midfield depth and paying free agency money for players expected to play 0-5 games , maybe 10 games if you had a horrid injury run is silly

Unless either of those players are happy to take near min coin 2 year contracts to be sanfl players hard pass.

 

[Jonts]

Would Hardwick be a good option as an actual defensive half back?

Bit old but he would be a great leader on field

 

[Schulzenfest]

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We also have no early picks. So Hayward or Ainsworth in a HFF role or Graham or, maybe, Parfitt in a midfield role - gives us the depth without needing picks. They would all be starting 22 comfortably.

Graham and Parfitt aren't starting 22 at their current clubs who both have much worse lists than ours.

 

[Powerade 08]

We need a campaigner defender. Same as every other year. Dunno if Hardwick is that player but if so i'd take him

 

[RossFC]

Try and get a winger, and then use the draft for the other picks.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Saint Kilda have huuge money available and would be after any of our Melbourne born players.

 

[Buget]

Saint Kilda have huuge money available and would be after any of our Melbourne born players.

All of Port’s key players that the Saint would be interested in are all contracted.

People will say Bergman, as they could do with another HB/wing, but Bergman seems pretty comfortable in Adelaide and contracted.

If someone wanted to go to the saints though, you would hope Port asked for Wanganeen-Milera. Saints would say no, but what a gun.

 

[bringbackbucky]

Any coaches on the Free Agent list?

 

[jackag24]

In terms of home-grown talent, here's how I'd rank the players who we should target over the next few years

Try and get them at any cost

• Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
• Kossy Pickett
• Mattaes Phillipou
• Will Day (unlikely)
• Jack Lukosius (unlikely)
• Petty (very unlikely)

Would be nice

• Will Hayward
• Tyson Stengle
• Jack Graham
• John Noble
• Caleb Daniel

 

[Long live PAFC]

Graham and Parfitt aren't starting 22 at their current clubs who both have much worse lists than ours.

Neither were McKenzie, Sav or Evans. Plenty of players are around the 22 but can contribute at another club. You aren’t a fan of Mead (going on old posts) - Parfitt and Graham would be an upgrade on him based on current output and experience. Both are good two way runners, experienced and can play a variety of roles.

The challenge for the list is the midfield and small forward depth. We have no picks, minimal trade capital. Boak and Wines - who knows how long they last and at what output. Mead, Sinn and Jackson - all have potential but have barely got on the park and aren’t ready cover. Bergmann might be able to step up but who knows. As I said, JHF got replaced by a back flanker, because we just don’t have the depth.

So yea Graham and Parfitt would be handy. SA boys, free agents. Probably won’t cost much.

 

[Long live PAFC]

In terms of home-grown talent, here's how I'd rank the players who we should target over the next few years

Try and get them at any cost

• Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
• Kossy Pickett
• Mattaes Phillipou
• Will Day (unlikely)
• Jack Lukosius (unlikely)
• Petty (very unlikely)

Would be nice

• Will Hayward
• Tyson Stengle
• Jack Graham
• John Noble
• Caleb Daniel

Wouldn’t go near Stengle - annoyingly he would actually be close to exactly what we need.

NWM would be perfect but no way we have the capital. Same for Kozzy and Mattes.

 

[jackag24]

Wouldn’t go near Stengle - annoyingly he would actually be close to exactly what we need.

NWM would be perfect but no way we have the capital. Same for Kozzy and Mattes.

Yeah i'm not sold on Stengle either. But i would take the risk on him.

Hopefully by the time any of NWM/Pickett/Phillipou's current contracts run out, we will have retained some picks. Or they'll be free agents.

Either way i think this is all 2-4 years down the track

 

[Brian McGee]

Wouldn’t go near Stengle - annoyingly he would actually be close to exactly what we need.

NWM would be perfect but no way we have the capital. Same for Kozzy and Mattes.

Kozzy is probably the best fit for our list of any current afl player. I wish we were able to get him last time he was out of contract…

 

[philthy05]

In terms of home-grown talent, here's how I'd rank the players who we should target over the next few years

Try and get them at any cost

• Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
• Kossy Pickett
• Mattaes Phillipou
• Will Day (unlikely)
• Jack Lukosius (unlikely)
• Petty (very unlikely)

Would be nice

• Will Hayward
• Tyson Stengle
• Jack Graham
• John Noble
• Caleb Daniel

Phillipou is a weird one. I really like him as a player, liked him as a junior, and he’s a big port fan. He’s coming occ and I think the last high draft pick from that draft who hasn’t extended. He looks a real chance to leave right now.

But there’s some real issues about recruiting him

1. He’s currently a half forward flanker , who some hope will turn into a midfielder. Maybe he does maybe he doesn’t, I’m not sure, but thanks to the high draft pick saints paid for him they’ll want “midfield potential” trade value paid for him.

As a hff with his returns, he really shouldn’t be worth more than a pick between 20-30. A good case in point is spp, whose trade value (if ooc) we would get for him would be a 2nd rounder at best, 3rd + steak knives if a team wanted to * us over.

But the asking price for phillipou cause of recent draft pick + “midfield potential” + vic club dealing with interstate club media push would likely be 2 first rounders or the equivalent and have to work down from there.

We don’t have anything like that of course, and as I’m a fan of phillipou I’m still not sure about his midfield potential and damn sure I’m not paying through the roof for a flanker unless said flanker is elite.

2. Fit / need. Whether he’s a hff or an onballer I’m not sure where he fits. I’m not sure we would be crying out for a tall marking flanker if we’re playing 3 key forwards. I’m personally ok with trying 3 talls + a tall flanker but I don’t think our club would do that. As an onballer he’s competing with a lot of other far better young mids. I’m more than okay with finding out how he fits, not sure if I want to pay through the roof for a guy we don’t know exactly how he fits.

I would like phillipou at the club. I’m not sure we need phillipou at the club for the price he would cost.

Neither were McKenzie, Sav or Evans. Plenty of players are around the 22 but can contribute at another club. You aren’t a fan of Mead (going on old posts) - Parfitt and Graham would be an upgrade on him based on current output and experience. Both are good two way runners, experienced and can play a variety of roles.

The challenge for the list is the midfield and small forward depth. We have no picks, minimal trade capital. Boak and Wines - who knows how long they last and at what output. Mead, Sinn and Jackson - all have potential but have barely got on the park and aren’t ready cover. Bergmann might be able to step up but who knows. As I said, JHF got replaced by a back flanker, because we just don’t have the depth.

So yea Graham and Parfitt would be handy. SA boys, free agents. Probably won’t cost much.

You just named several guys we picked up as delisted players, not free agents.

You’re not helping your argument.

Jhf got replaced by a flanker cause we’re already midfielder heavy in our 22.

Yeah i'm not sold on Stengle either. But i would take the risk on him.

Hopefully by the time any of NWM/Pickett/Phillipou's current contracts run out, we will have retained some picks. Or they'll be free agents.

Either way i think this is all 2-4 years down the track

 

[Nelso]

Why would we go after Graham when we already have Drew who fits that role?

 

[SureBuddy]

In terms of home-grown talent, here's how I'd rank the players who we should target over the next few years

Try and get them at any cost

• Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
• Kossy Pickett
• Mattaes Phillipou
• Will Day (unlikely)
• Jack Lukosius (unlikely)
• Petty (very unlikely)

Would be nice

• Will Hayward
• Tyson Stengle
• Jack Graham
• John Noble
• Caleb Daniel

In all seriousness, the only few I would want from that list is Milera, Pickett and Will Day.

 

[Malibu#27]

In all seriousness, the only few I would want from that list is Milera, Pickett and Will Day.

Ironically, Picket and Day were picks 12 and 13 in the 2019 draft (although my recollection was there was much angst at the thought of us taking Pickett). We had pick 14 and selected Bergman.
Wanganeen-Milera was pick 11 in the 2021 draft and we selected Sinn at pick 12. I think we had been linked to Milera a fair bit leading up.

 

[dirty2]

Would Hardwick be a good option as an actual defensive half back?

Busy coaching the sun's ATM.