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Email from Stephen Rodgers I'm passing along listing a few outstanding missing player deaths they are still trying to find.

Mal Worrall (Hawthorn)
with the full name as
Malcolm Murray Worrall
(you might recall, we changed the date-of-birth from 10 - 10 - 25, to now be 10 - 12 - 25.)
The feeling is that he died in Queensland sometime around 2010 to 2012.
His son, Brendan Worrall, is currently Queensland Auditor General - see Our people | Queensland Audit Office
Could be contacted via LinkedIn or a phone call to QAO
 
Apologies in advance for the long post...

Stewart Anderson (St Kilda, North Melb) currently has DOB 7 June 1911 and DOD 4 June 1997 in football records

Problem

When I searched for Anderson on Ancestry I found a probate record for Robert Stewart Anderson with DOD 4 June 1997 and a Find a Grave record at The Victorian Garden of Remembrance which gives a WWII service record number: VX113216. This service record has DOB 7 June 1915 in Bright, Victoria which corresponds with Vic BDM birth record 9721/1915 – Robert Stewart Anderson son of William Davenport Anderson and Constance Tyler.

William Davenport Anderson (1884-1955) was a Presbyterian minister who served at various locations around Victoria (but nowhere near Hamilton). William and Constance were married in April 1912 and had three sons in three years - John (b1913), William (b1914) and then Robert Stewart (b1915)

The 1915 birth date for Robert Stewart is correct and this makes him too young to be the footballer – see career below

Career of the footballer
In 1930, Anderson played for Essendon reserves – listed in team here. “Anderson” appears multiple times in best players for Essendon reserves in 1930 – but likely many times this is Bruce Anderson
In 1931 Anderson was playing for Hamilton – he appears in a team photo in July
Sept 1932 Anderson won a WDL premiership with Hamilton
March 1933 Tries out for a place with St Kilda (note: “he has to receive a clearance from the Essendon seconds”)
29 Apr 1933 Scored 3.2 on debut v Hawthorn SCORES ACCURATELY REFLECT GAME. - Hawthorn 11.13 v. St. Kilda 10.17. - The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954) - 1 May 1933
24 Jun 1933 Broke his hand in Rd 9 game v Melb LEAGUE FOUR UNCHANGED - FOOTSCRAY OUTLASTS COLLINGWOOD FITZROY SURPRISES SOUTH MELBOURNE - The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954) - 26 Jun 1933
Returned in Rd 13 but dropped for Rd 17 CLUB NOTES. - RICHMOND HEAD THE LIST. - The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954) - 25 Aug 1933
Played only 4 senior games in 1934 and 4 in 1935 for St Kilda (largely as a forward)
1 Jun 1936 Appointed captain-coach of Oakleigh ASSOCIATION MEN - J. O'Halloran for Camberwell Finlayson Resumes - The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) - 3 Jun 1936
13 May 1937 Resigns as captain-coach four games into the season
27 May 1937 Cleared to NM SEVEN MEN TO HAVE FIRST LEAGUE GAMES - THIRTY CHANGES IN THE TEAMS South Melbourne Stronger LOWENTHAL AT FITZROY - The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) - 28 May 1937
25 Mar 1938 Reports of retirement denied by NM League Games To Try Out Many New Men To-morrow - The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) - 25 Mar 1938
27 May 1938 Played 3 games for NM in 1938 in 3 different position (FB, CHF, CHB) LEAGUE HAS 37 CHANGES IN TEAMS - Four Leaders Back Again - The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) - 27 May 1938
15 Jun 1938 Transferred to Sandringham 16 Jun 1938 - "MUDLARKS" AIDED AT MENTONE - Trove
23 Apr 1939 Full forward for Sandringham SEASIDE RIVALS CLASH - Sporting Globe (Melbourne, Vic. : 1922 - 1954) - 12 Apr 1939
9 May 1940 – Transfer to Coburg V.F.A. PERMIT FOR JEFFREY - The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) - 9 May 1940 – permit in the name of “G. S. Anderson”
16 May 1940 Anderson (of Sandringham) is now at Coburg Coburg's Jubilee - The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954) - 16 May 1940 where he scored over 30 goals in the season (note The VFA Project site incorrectly attributes these games to Arthur Anderson)

Actual player identity

There is only one birth registered in Victoria for a “G. Stewart/Stuart Anderson” in the period 1900-1915

This is for Glen Stewart Anderson, born in 1910 at Ascot Vale to Henry Spence Anderson (1874–1938) and Mary Ann Stewart (1872–1945). Birth location ties in well with first known football being with Essendon reserves and age makes sense.

Glen Stewart Anderson married Kathleen Elizabeth Mary Stapleton (who came from Hamilton, Victoria) in 1937 – providing a link to Hamilton. They had two children together (Barry and Wendy according to her death notice in 1951)

Glen Stewart Anderson appears in electoral rolls in 1935/6/7 living with his parents in Ascot Vale and then in Coburg with Kathleen in the 1940s.

Died at Brunswick on 7 Aug 1962

I'm missing an exact DOB but pretty sure this is the correct identity for the player - do others agree and can anyone find an exact DOB (as required by AFL to make an update)?
 
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Apologies in advance for the long post...

Stewart Anderson (St Kilda, North Melb) currently has DOB 7 June 1911 and DOD 4 June 1997 in football records

Problem

When I searched for Anderson on Ancestry I found a probate record for Robert Stewart Anderson with DOD 4 June 1997 and a Find a Grave record at The Victorian Garden of Remembrance which gives a WWII service record number: VX113216. This service record has DOB 7 June 1915 in Bright, Victoria which corresponds with Vic BDM birth record 9721/1915 – Robert Stewart Anderson son of William Davenport Anderson and Constance Tyler.

William Davenport Anderson (1884-1955) was a Presbyterian minister who served at various locations around Victoria (but nowhere near Hamilton). William and Constance were married in April 1912 and had three sons in three years - John (b1913), William (b1914) and then Robert Stewart (b1915)

The 1915 birth date for Robert Stewart is correct and this makes him too young to be the footballer – see career below

Career of the footballer
In 1930, Anderson played for Essendon reserves – listed in team here. “Anderson” appears multiple times in best players for Essendon reserves in 1930 – but likely many times this is Bruce Anderson
In 1931 Anderson was playing for Hamilton – he appears in a team photo in July
Sept 1932 Anderson won a WDL premiership with Hamilton
March 1933 Tries out for a place with St Kilda (note: “he has to receive a clearance from the Essendon seconds”)
29 Apr 1933 Scored 3.2 on debut v Hawthorn SCORES ACCURATELY REFLECT GAME. - Hawthorn 11.13 v. St. Kilda 10.17. - The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954) - 1 May 1933
24 Jun 1933 Broke his hand in Rd 9 game v Melb LEAGUE FOUR UNCHANGED - FOOTSCRAY OUTLASTS COLLINGWOOD FITZROY SURPRISES SOUTH MELBOURNE - The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954) - 26 Jun 1933
Returned in Rd 13 but dropped for Rd 17 CLUB NOTES. - RICHMOND HEAD THE LIST. - The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954) - 25 Aug 1933
Played only 4 senior games in 1934 and 4 in 1935 for St Kilda (largely as a forward)
1 Jun 1936 Appointed captain-coach of Oakleigh ASSOCIATION MEN - J. O'Halloran for Camberwell Finlayson Resumes - The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) - 3 Jun 1936
13 May 1937 Resigns as captain-coach four games into the season
27 May 1937 Cleared to NM SEVEN MEN TO HAVE FIRST LEAGUE GAMES - THIRTY CHANGES IN THE TEAMS South Melbourne Stronger LOWENTHAL AT FITZROY - The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) - 28 May 1937
25 Mar 1938 Reports of retirement denied by NM League Games To Try Out Many New Men To-morrow - The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) - 25 Mar 1938
27 May 1938 Played 3 games for NM in 1938 in 3 different position (FB, CHF, CHB) LEAGUE HAS 37 CHANGES IN TEAMS - Four Leaders Back Again - The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) - 27 May 1938
15 Jun 1938 Transferred to Sandringham 16 Jun 1938 - "MUDLARKS" AIDED AT MENTONE - Trove
23 Apr 1939 Full forward for Sandringham SEASIDE RIVALS CLASH - Sporting Globe (Melbourne, Vic. : 1922 - 1954) - 12 Apr 1939
9 May 1940 – Transfer to Coburg V.F.A. PERMIT FOR JEFFREY - The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) - 9 May 1940 – permit in the name of “G. S. Anderson”
16 May 1940 Anderson (of Sandringham) is now at Coburg Coburg's Jubilee - The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954) - 16 May 1940 where he scored over 30 goals in the season (note The VFA Project site incorrectly attributes these games to Arthur Anderson)

Actual player identity

There is only one birth registered in Victoria for a “G. Stewart/Stuart Anderson” in the period 1900-1915

This is for Glen Stewart Anderson, born in 1910 at Ascot Vale to Henry Spence Anderson (1874–1938) and Mary Ann Stewart (1872–1945). Birth location ties in well with first known football being with Essendon reserves and age makes sense.

Glen Stewart Anderson married Kathleen Elizabeth Mary Stapleton (who came from Hamilton, Victoria) in 1937 – providing a link to Hamilton. They had two children together (Barry and Wendy according to her death notice in 1951)

Glen Stewart Anderson appears in electoral rolls in 1935/6/7 living with his parents in Ascot Vale and then in Coburg with Kathleen in the 1940s.

Died at Brunswick on 7 Aug 1962

I'm missing an exact DOB but pretty sure this is the correct identity for the player - do others agree and can anyone find an exact DOB (as required by AFL to make an update)?
It looks certain you have the right chap. The St Kilda player was living at Ascot Vale in 1933:
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Apologies in advance for the long post...

Stewart Anderson (St Kilda, North Melb) currently has DOB 7 June 1911 and DOD 4 June 1997 in football records

Problem

When I searched for Anderson on Ancestry I found a probate record for Robert Stewart Anderson with DOD 4 June 1997 and a Find a Grave record at The Victorian Garden of Remembrance which gives a WWII service record number: VX113216. This service record has DOB 7 June 1915 in Bright, Victoria which corresponds with Vic BDM birth record 9721/1915 – Robert Stewart Anderson son of William Davenport Anderson and Constance Tyler.

William Davenport Anderson (1884-1955) was a Presbyterian minister who served at various locations around Victoria (but nowhere near Hamilton). William and Constance were married in April 1912 and had three sons in three years - John (b1913), William (b1914) and then Robert Stewart (b1915)

The 1915 birth date for Robert Stewart is correct and this makes him too young to be the footballer – see career below

Career of the footballer
In 1930, Anderson played for Essendon reserves – listed in team here. “Anderson” appears multiple times in best players for Essendon reserves in 1930 – but likely many times this is Bruce Anderson
In 1931 Anderson was playing for Hamilton – he appears in a team photo in July
Sept 1932 Anderson won a WDL premiership with Hamilton
March 1933 Tries out for a place with St Kilda (note: “he has to receive a clearance from the Essendon seconds”)
29 Apr 1933 Scored 3.2 on debut v Hawthorn SCORES ACCURATELY REFLECT GAME. - Hawthorn 11.13 v. St. Kilda 10.17. - The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954) - 1 May 1933
24 Jun 1933 Broke his hand in Rd 9 game v Melb LEAGUE FOUR UNCHANGED - FOOTSCRAY OUTLASTS COLLINGWOOD FITZROY SURPRISES SOUTH MELBOURNE - The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954) - 26 Jun 1933
Returned in Rd 13 but dropped for Rd 17 CLUB NOTES. - RICHMOND HEAD THE LIST. - The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954) - 25 Aug 1933
Played only 4 senior games in 1934 and 4 in 1935 for St Kilda (largely as a forward)
1 Jun 1936 Appointed captain-coach of Oakleigh ASSOCIATION MEN - J. O'Halloran for Camberwell Finlayson Resumes - The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) - 3 Jun 1936
13 May 1937 Resigns as captain-coach four games into the season
27 May 1937 Cleared to NM SEVEN MEN TO HAVE FIRST LEAGUE GAMES - THIRTY CHANGES IN THE TEAMS South Melbourne Stronger LOWENTHAL AT FITZROY - The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) - 28 May 1937
25 Mar 1938 Reports of retirement denied by NM League Games To Try Out Many New Men To-morrow - The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) - 25 Mar 1938
27 May 1938 Played 3 games for NM in 1938 in 3 different position (FB, CHF, CHB) LEAGUE HAS 37 CHANGES IN TEAMS - Four Leaders Back Again - The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) - 27 May 1938
15 Jun 1938 Transferred to Sandringham 16 Jun 1938 - "MUDLARKS" AIDED AT MENTONE - Trove
23 Apr 1939 Full forward for Sandringham SEASIDE RIVALS CLASH - Sporting Globe (Melbourne, Vic. : 1922 - 1954) - 12 Apr 1939
9 May 1940 – Transfer to Coburg V.F.A. PERMIT FOR JEFFREY - The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) - 9 May 1940 – permit in the name of “G. S. Anderson”
16 May 1940 Anderson (of Sandringham) is now at Coburg Coburg's Jubilee - The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954) - 16 May 1940 where he scored over 30 goals in the season (note The VFA Project site incorrectly attributes these games to Arthur Anderson)

Actual player identity

There is only one birth registered in Victoria for a “G. Stewart/Stuart Anderson” in the period 1900-1915

This is for Glen Stewart Anderson, born in 1910 at Ascot Vale to Henry Spence Anderson (1874–1938) and Mary Ann Stewart (1872–1945). Birth location ties in well with first known football being with Essendon reserves and age makes sense.

Glen Stewart Anderson married Kathleen Elizabeth Mary Stapleton (who came from Hamilton, Victoria) in 1937 – providing a link to Hamilton. They had two children together (Barry and Wendy according to her death notice in 1951)

Glen Stewart Anderson appears in electoral rolls in 1935/6/7 living with his parents in Ascot Vale and then in Coburg with Kathleen in the 1940s.

Died at Brunswick on 7 Aug 1962

I'm missing an exact DOB but pretty sure this is the correct identity for the player - do others agree and can anyone find an exact DOB (as required by AFL to make an update)?

I agree with you that player is G S Anderson (1910-1962), but cannot find exact DOB. If the AFL could find $22 to spare, the details could be confirmed by ordering copy of the birth certificate #16159/1910.
 
I agree with you that player is G S Anderson (1910-1962), but cannot find exact DOB. If the AFL could find $22 to spare, the details could be confirmed by ordering copy of the birth certificate #16159/1910.
I now have access to GenealogySA transcripts which give DOB and DOD if there are any SA players required
 
I now have access to GenealogySA transcripts which give DOB and DOD if there are any SA players required


If it includes children's names, can I please shoot you a non VFL/AFL PM?
 
from Stephen Rodgers.

re: Colin Wilson

Exact death date has been found.

"He Colin R. turns out to be Colin Robert.
Melbourne, in Demonwiki, had an approximation with the death in February 2018.
I think this was from the notice in Ryerson
(just the funeral unfortunately, but clearly the player, with a spot-on age of 84, and "Go the Dees" part of the notice, in the Herald Sun.)

However, I was able to ring the funeral parlour in the notice, and got an exact date-of-death from them of January 29, 2018.

(which matches well to the date of the funeral notice, 2 days later, doesn't it.)

As you can see, Rhett, there's clearly a typo in his Wikipedia entry; should be saying he played in the team that defeated Essendon in the 1957 Grand Final (not Collingwood).
(He also then played in the 1958 Grand Final runner-up team to Collingwood.)


Can our wiki person please update the date of death, and fix the typo.

and Demonwiki person ( I forgot who that was) may want to know of this exact death date
 
another email from Stephen Rodgers
Any objections/agreement regarding the below ARTHUR FITT


"- Arthur Fitt of Fitzroy

Hopefully this is a reasonably straightforward one.


I have the full name as

Arthur Aloysius Fitt

If you have a look on Ryerson,
there's Arthur Aloysius Fitt
with a death of 26 May 1996,
being in The Age of 2 days later.

No age is given - the player, from
12 - 2 - 1928, would be 68.

at Bodella Nursing home, Kew, late of East Preston.

(And the player was recruited from,
Preston/Fairfield YCW.)

It seems weird that this could be another one that both of us have missed,
but you'd think it HAS to be the player.

Are you happy to go with it as the player?"
 
another email from Stephen Rodgers
(i haven edited this one to remove paragraphs that arent really necessary)
HAROLD DAVIDSON

- the curious case of (not Benjamin Button but) Harold Davidson

What are the odds that there are only 2 Harold Davidson's to have played League football - and they both debuted in 1930?

About 100 to 1, maybe.

Now, what are the odds that, both with the 1930 debut, they both later died on the same day?

Not too sure of that, but I'd say I've got a better chance of winning Tattslotto!

Yet, this is what their Wikipedia entries are telling me at the moment - Hahaha!!

So, this is what I've got:

Harold Albert (known as Hec) Davidson of Melbourne, with a date-of-birth of
29 - 3 - 1908.

And with the other one, it's always been a bit of a bugbear, that I haven't had a middle name, but
Harold (no middle name) Davidson of North Melbourne, with a date-of-birth of
19 - 8 - 1910.
(And I've got in the Remarks,
Born Scotland - not sure where that's from)


Now, if you go to Ryerson, you'll see:
Harold Albert, with a Funeral notice, of
27 - 5 - 76, from The Age, of the day before.
He's the only Harold Albert, so I think it's safe to assume Harold Albert (Hec) of Melbourne, has the death of
24 - 5 - 1976.

Now, turning again to
Harold (no middle name) Davidson, as you can see, there's a number of, simply,
Harold Davidson's on Ryerson.
As you'll see, we can eliminate the ones with an age given, because none of them match, in terms of a birth, the player.

But that still leaves (no age given)
the Harold Davidson's of, the death in,

1957

1997

2007

So, these, you'd think "could be" the player, also bearing in mind, the '57 one is The Age, and the '07 one is The Age and The Herald Sun. (and even the '97 one could have "moved to Queensland" later in life.)

Of course, I'm well aware, Harold Davidson, North Melbourne player, may not be in Ryerson!

(Not to mention, I'm assuming, haha!, they both didn't die on the same day!)

But for the time being, would you say
we'll go with 24 - 5 - 76 for Harold Albert (Hec) of Melbourne
and Harold (no middle name) North Melbourne is still unknown, unless you can possibly deduce it from any of the above, or from some other way?
 

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another email from Stephen Rodgers
Any objections/agreement regarding the below ARTHUR FITT


"- Arthur Fitt of Fitzroy

Hopefully this is a reasonably straightforward one.


I have the full name as

Arthur Aloysius Fitt

If you have a look on Ryerson,
there's Arthur Aloysius Fitt
with a death of 26 May 1996,
being in The Age of 2 days later.

No age is given - the player, from
12 - 2 - 1928, would be 68.

at Bodella Nursing home, Kew, late of East Preston.

(And the player was recruited from,
Preston/Fairfield YCW.)

It seems weird that this could be another one that both of us have missed,
but you'd think it HAS to be the player.

Are you happy to go with it as the player?"
I'm not so sure about this one, Rhett! I think it's very likely that's the father of the Fitzroy footballer (who happens to have the same name)!

These two played seconds for Collingwood many years ago: Reserves/VFL Players E-K
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I'm quite sure I remember looking into them a while back.

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The Fitzroy player tried out at Collingwood before ending up there:
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This should make it a certainty the chap who died in 1996 was born much earlier than 1928: https://gmct.apps.vertigisstudio.com/web/?app=93720bf87a4341c1b8f61d49f254ba40&mapkey=239522
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So here's the father and son living together at Preston in 1949. Mary Amelia will be the Amelia Wheeler referred to here:
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She's buried with her husband:
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I think this is the Jack Fitt who was a "star" boundary umpire: Boundary umpires 1904-2022
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Yes:
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Jack Fitt was certainly a very well known runner:
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Probate records suggest the father, who was in the boot trade, was the one who died in 1996 (see Electoral Roll entry from 1949^ as well):
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This story is nearly 40 years old, but with this many children, and a surname that's probably not that common, tracking down what happened to Arthur shouldn't be that difficult (hopefully he's still going)!:
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Fair chance this is the David Fitt who was a 23 year old plumber in 1984!: David Fitt Plumbing
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I think this suggests Arthur and his wife were still alive in 2014:
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Arthur's wife died in 2021:
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Reading some words from the funeral service (booklet) it seems Arthur was still going, and there must be a very strong chance he still is.
 
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another email from Stephen Rodgers
(i haven edited this one to remove paragraphs that arent really necessary)
HAROLD DAVIDSON

- the curious case of (not Benjamin Button but) Harold Davidson

What are the odds that there are only 2 Harold Davidson's to have played League football - and they both debuted in 1930?

About 100 to 1, maybe.

Now, what are the odds that, both with the 1930 debut, they both later died on the same day?

Not too sure of that, but I'd say I've got a better chance of winning Tattslotto!

Yet, this is what their Wikipedia entries are telling me at the moment - Hahaha!!

So, this is what I've got:

Harold Albert (known as Hec) Davidson of Melbourne, with a date-of-birth of
29 - 3 - 1908.

And with the other one, it's always been a bit of a bugbear, that I haven't had a middle name, but
Harold (no middle name) Davidson of North Melbourne, with a date-of-birth of
19 - 8 - 1910.
(And I've got in the Remarks,
Born Scotland - not sure where that's from)



Now, if you go to Ryerson, you'll see:
Harold Albert, with a Funeral notice, of
27 - 5 - 76, from The Age, of the day before.
He's the only Harold Albert, so I think it's safe to assume Harold Albert (Hec) of Melbourne, has the death of
24 - 5 - 1976.

Now, turning again to
Harold (no middle name) Davidson, as you can see, there's a number of, simply,
Harold Davidson's on Ryerson.
As you'll see, we can eliminate the ones with an age given, because none of them match, in terms of a birth, the player.

But that still leaves (no age given)
the Harold Davidson's of, the death in,

1957

1997

2007

So, these, you'd think "could be" the player, also bearing in mind, the '57 one is The Age, and the '07 one is The Age and The Herald Sun. (and even the '97 one could have "moved to Queensland" later in life.)

Of course, I'm well aware, Harold Davidson, North Melbourne player, may not be in Ryerson!

(Not to mention, I'm assuming, haha!, they both didn't die on the same day!)

But for the time being, would you say
we'll go with 24 - 5 - 76 for Harold Albert (Hec) of Melbourne
and Harold (no middle name) North Melbourne is still unknown, unless you can possibly deduce it from any of the above, or from some other way?
The "Scotland connection" for the North player would have to come from this:
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Also from his Army records:
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Though there's this as well:
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Probate records have:
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This age should be out by a fair bit:
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There was an M. Davidson who went from North Melbourne to Brunswick in June 1931, and I just wonder if there could be a connection?:
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The player at North and the one at Brunswick seemed to play on the wing.

I do wonder if this really is the North Melbourne footballer, but he is a match for the Harold Davidson who was born in Scotland 19/08/1910, and we do at least know his DOD!!
 
Harold Davidson (no middle name) b1910 has 2 entries in ScotlandsPeople site

DAVIDSONHAROLDROBERTSONM1910701 / 52WEST CALDERBuy creditsOrder certificate
DAVIDSONHAROLDSTEWARTM1910168 / 1 / 1132ST NICHOLAS

West Calder is in Edinburgh and St Nicholas is in Aberdeen - neither I would suggest near the Shetland Isles

Cross checking there are NO births recorded in 1901

Davidson nee Stewart is eliminated
DAVIDSONHAROLD77STEWARTM1988304 / 264ABERDEEN

Davidson nee Robertson also eliminated
DAVIDSONHAROLD78ROBERTSONM1988711 / 96WHITBURN
 

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I wonder if the AFL could also see to the fact that Hec Davidson is missing two Gardiner Medals from which he should have been awarded retrospectively; he lost both on countback in 1932 and 1933 yet was never recognised when the AFL awarded retrospective medals in 1992. He was also runner-up in 1931 and 1934 – a handy player!

There are a couple of other cases of missing retrospective medals in there too; it would be a shame for the families not to receive recognition – even if it is just private acknowledgement by the league.

 
I wonder if the AFL could also see to the fact that Hec Davidson is missing two Gardiner Medals from which he should have been awarded retrospectively; he lost both on countback in 1932 and 1933 yet was never recognised when the AFL awarded retrospective medals in 1992. He was also runner-up in 1931 and 1934 – a handy player!

There are a couple of other cases of missing retrospective medals in there too; it would be a shame for the families not to receive recognition – even if it is just private acknowledgement by the league.

Just a minor issue for AustralianFootball admin

Listed as Hector Davidson when it should be Harold Albert


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Birth
DAVIDSON Harold Albt <Unknown Family Name>, Cath TANGEE
<Unknown Family Name>, Richd
SALE
1908
14646/1908


Death
DAVIDSON Harold Albert <Unknown Family Name>, Catherine May TANGEE
<Unknown Family Name>, DAVIDSON Richard
Born Sale Died Lindenow

68
1976
15330/1976

Summary: Hec Davidson is Harold Albert Davidson nickname Hec or Agg
 
Harold Davidson (no middle name) b1910 has 2 entries in ScotlandsPeople site

DAVIDSONHAROLDROBERTSONM1910701 / 52WEST CALDERBuy creditsOrder certificate
DAVIDSONHAROLDSTEWARTM1910168 / 1 / 1132ST NICHOLAS

West Calder is in Edinburgh and St Nicholas is in Aberdeen - neither I would suggest near the Shetland Isles

Cross checking there are NO births recorded in 1901

Davidson nee Stewart is eliminated
DAVIDSONHAROLD77STEWARTM1988304 / 264ABERDEEN

Davidson nee Robertson also eliminated
DAVIDSONHAROLD78ROBERTSONM1988711 / 96WHITBURN
Maybe it's out there somewhere, but I haven't seen anything from around the time Davidson played for North that tells us what his (first) name is or hints at his age. So I'm very dubious about what the records have on him!!
The game's records have the player being born 19 August 1910, and that must have come from the Scottish-born chap, who served in WWII. This is what his Army records had for a next of kin when he enlisted in 1940:
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Since his mother was living in Scotland in 1940 I'd say it's rather unlikely that she came to Australia to live (when he did), suggesting he came out here by himself. So when did he come here (surely he'd have been 18 at least), and is there any way he could have learned the game quickly enough to be recruited by a VFL club when he was still only 19?! It all seems too unlikely to me!

So I'm still looking for an M. Davidson, thinking he's more likely to have been our man!!
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He went from Brunswick to East Burwood in 1932, and played for them as well as Victoria Markets:
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I posted this the other day, and thought then it had to be quite likely this was the 1930 North senior player:
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I think this suggests that Morry Davidson from North was a senior player:
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If he'd only played seconds they'd probably mention it.
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This refers to North's Reserves team:
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This (occupation) might hint as to why he played for Victoria Markets at one stage, and he was living in the Carlton area around the time he went to North Melbourne:
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I haven't seen anything that suggests there was another Davidson at North Melbourne 1930-31, so I think it's extremely likely Maurice/Morrie was the North senior player in 1930.
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Any comments (from anyone) would be most welcome, and please jump in and look in case there's more to be found on this one!!
 
^ I think this really should settle the issue!:
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So the Brunswick/Victoria Markets player was the one who played senior football for North Melbourne in 1930. Morrie/Morry Davidson is our man! I just presume that he was Maurice, and I do think the one I've picked out (1904-1970 chap) should be the best candidate, but I think there were at least another couple of Maurice Davidson's around, and that bit I can't be positive about!
 
I now have access to GenealogySA transcripts which give DOB and DOD if there are any SA players required
GC, would you be able to have a look at the death reg. for the great Len (Leonard Charles) Fitzgerald, who died in Adelaide in 2007? I'm hoping it has the names of his parents, as it's believed his father played some reserves games for Collingwood (District), but we have not been able to find out his name. There seems to be very little on Ancestry with regards to Len, which is very surprising. He was born in 1929, so his birth came after the Vic BDM cutoff point.
 

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