NFL Lockout 'A Certainty'

[Woodson]

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That was quite amusing posting there BPG.

Doesn't mean if we don't respond that nobody isn't cackling themselves silly.
ie: Balmainforever.. BIG CACKLER.. Loves to Cackle. A day doesn't go by without a cackle.

But unfortunately there is nothing to cackle about with the NFL Lock Out as the much maligned US Government being in the middle of the whole NFL Lock Out process with anti-trust laws and decertification.

GG's isn't gonna be surprised one iota. Another conspiracy theory perhaps?

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[Ram-Man]

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That was quite amusing posting there BPG.

Doesn't mean if we don't respond that nobody isn't cackling themselves silly.
ie: Balmainforever.. BIG CACKLER.. Loves to Cackle. A day doesn't go by without a cackle.

But unfortunately there is nothing to cackle about with the NFL Lock Out as the much maligned US Government being in the middle of the whole NFL Lock Out process with anti-trust laws and decertification.

GG's isn't gonna be surprised one iota. Another conspiracy theory perhaps?

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[Woodson]

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Lyle Messy?

Latest developments on pending NFL season is that an 8 game season is more likely than anything..

All or nothing. Anything less than 3 months is just BS. Goodell can get stuffed!

source: Foxsports

Furthermore...the players anti-trust lawsuit is something I feel is the CANCER in any negotiations proceeding in the right direction. Think about it.

The Owners are ready IMHO to UNLOCK the gates if there is a condition met.. Is the anti-trust lawsuit the real stumbling block??

 

[balmainforever]

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I made all those Kermit posts, and no-one shares the love??

Seesh, you lot are just locked in the awesome esoterics of "collective bargaining" (mob rule??) for "professional sportsmen" (WTF is a professional sportsman anyway - a better than amatuer standard player that can get paid a lot to do the same thing more often with less consequences if he doesn't perform??) labour disputes??

Didn't realise that you needed others to acknowledge your posts.
Just for you, yes it was a "cackler" of a post.

 

[Tassie19Cairns20]

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Good points Woodson. I think the anti-trust lawsuit is the biggest issue the owners have. But personally I'd rather have an 8 game season than no season at all. Each game will have twice the impact as it did before.

 

[FootyJunkie]

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8 game season?

- Would do division games (6 games).
- Then have teams play their divisional positional opponents that they were scheduled to play, the one in their own conference, and the other in the other conference (2 games)

Playoffs - only fair to have 16 teams compete in single elimination in such a short season. Division champs get to host all games in Round 1. Round 1 would start on a Friday Night, 3 games Saturday, 3 games Sunday, and 1 game on Monday night. NBC to get all games on Saturday plus the Sunday game, while FOX/CBS get Sunday arvo and negotiate on who gets Friday/Monday night.

 

[Woodson]

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Latest update is that the next 4 weeks will spell it out LOUD n' Clear whether we'll have a FULL season or a delayed campaign. Gun NFL.com reporter, Albert Breer, seems to have his fingertips on the pulse of these negotiations.

Here's the full article with video. Great questions by Rich Eisen.

We're at 90 Days since the Lock Out started and 90 days out from the opening season kick-off

Clubs have been pulling back on paying staffers/employees the full rate but If the NFL plays a full season, everybody will be fully reimbursed for lost wages.

 

[drd23]

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Clubs have been pulling back on paying staffers/employees the full rate but If the NFL plays a full season, everybody will be fully reimbursed for lost wages.

Not all franchises have been docking pay/forcing employees to go on unpaid leave. I know that the Giants and Ravens have been paying non-playing employees their full wage, and rightly so.

The franchises havent lost any money yet (because they wouldnt be earning any money during this time of year in a normal league year) so why should the non-playing employees, who have nothing to gain from any lawsuit/CBA scenario, be so disadvantaged by the lockout? Its a low act by those franchises that have been docking pay IMO

 

[WhyAlwaysMe]

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Adam Schefter, quotes

After taking off past two rounds of talks in Chicago and on Long Island, lawyers back involved in these meetings. This time it's good.

Got to say theres been a lot more positive news of late on this, hopefully a deal has been struck and the lawyers are getting involved to read the fine print.

 

[drd23]

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Things are certainly looking up. We might just get an uninterrupted season after all

NFL source: Labor negotiations 80-85 percent complete

...

These are the new owners and player meetings that are now apparently moving at faster than light speed with a great sense of politeness towards a collective bargaining agreement. The usual cautious caveats apply but it's crystal clear now: the bullet train is headed towards a deal and the only thing that can stop it is last-minute, rampant stupidity. That likely won't happen.

One source with intimate knowledge of the discussions tells me negotiations are 80-85 percent complete. They've made such fast progress, I'm told, it's catching many of the principals by surprise. Some are now canceling vacations, believing an agreement will be reached within a matter of days.

Basically, it seems, we continue to move solidly into that threshold of a season will be played, not if one will be played. Again, barring the knucklehead factor.

"It's going to be very difficult for this to get screwed up," the source said.

That doesn't mean the negotiations can't revert back to the primordial days of disgust and hatred, or that the talks can't implode. It does mean, however, that the discussions are in such a good place it would be difficult for even the most selfish, destructive personality to affect them.

No one will go into specifics about what concessions are being made. What is being said is that both owners and players are making major ones and that has greased the CBA skids.

...

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/15231374/nfl-source-labor-negotiations-8085-percent-complete

 

[entourage]

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This is good news, but we've heard it all before, personally i'm not getting my hopes too high. IMO the season is already compromised, how will the players interact with their respective owners after this? Will the players care as much? Will the owners care as much?
I feel theres a lot more than the season at stake, and that damage has already been done

 

[Woodson]

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Thanx drd23 for the latest update. NFL.com gun reporter, Albert Breer, has been talking up the optimism also.

According to sources, both the NFL and NFL Players Association are evaluating and strongly considering concessions on all fronts, and that has led to a belief that a deal could be done in two to four weeks.

source NFL.com

 

[Woodson]

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This is good news, but we've heard it all before, personally i'm not getting my hopes too high. IMO the season is already compromised, how will the players interact with their respective owners after this? Will the players care as much? Will the owners care as much?
I feel theres a lot more than the season at stake, and that damage has already been done

You're being very pessimistic here entourage. It's a serious business. Both parties want to get it right for the long term. Astute posters like GG was long aware of the Lock Out and didn't wait until the media to tell us about the situation. It's very professional the way the NFL run their business. More than what can be said for the rickety hotch potch controversy riddled AFL.

 

[Southerntakeover]

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Just give me free agency to get excited about. Im sick and tired of waking up screaming about our cornerback situation.

 

[drd23]

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Just give me free agency to get excited about. Im sick and tired of waking up screaming about our cornerback situation.

If you are dreaming about Asomugha, I'll think you'll be disappointed whenever FA comes around

 

[entourage]

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You're being very pessimistic here entourage. It's a serious business. Both parties want to get it right for the long term. Astute posters like GG was long aware of the Lock Out and didn't wait until the media to tell us about the situation. It's very professional the way the NFL run their business. More than what can be said for the rickety hotch potch controversy riddled AFL.

I was long aware of the lock out too, since the end of last season (09) this was always going to happen, and the players signalling at the start of the '10 season only magnified how ugly it was going to get.
I know they very professionally run it, moreso than afl and I am critical of the afl at times when comparing it to the NFL.
I simply am not getting my hopes up in fear of them being crushed, I love my NFL and couldn't bare a season without it or with a compromised version of it.

 

[Sven]

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There's a great article about the free agency bonanza that is likely to follow any agreement on a CBA.

The key issue is that any CBA is likely to include a minimum team spend under the salary cap and that there are a lot of teams coming off very low salary cap figures in 2010. The example in the article talks about a salary cap of $141 million and a minimum team spend of $123 million (87.5% of the cap) with the Tampa Bay Bucs coming of a team spend of just $80 million in 2010. When you combine this with a likely rookie wage scale, then it becomes clear that a lot of teams will be looking to spend a lot of money on new contracts.

http://thevikingage.com/2011/06/14/...adeal-and-why-it-may-not-be-from-the-vikings/

 

[wce_all_da_way]

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Hurry up NFL

 

[drd23]

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There's a great article about the free agency bonanza that is likely to follow any agreement on a CBA.

The key issue is that any CBA is likely to include a minimum team spend under the salary cap and that there are a lot of teams coming off very low salary cap figures in 2010. The example in the article talks about a salary cap of $141 million and a minimum team spend of $123 million (87.5% of the cap) with the Tampa Bay Bucs coming of a team spend of just $80 million in 2010. When you combine this with a likely rookie wage scale, then it becomes clear that a lot of teams will be looking to spend a lot of money on new contracts.

http://thevikingage.com/2011/06/14/...adeal-and-why-it-may-not-be-from-the-vikings/

The CBA has always had a salary floor.

And I dont think that a salary floor will cause a FA bonanza, it could just lead to a whole bunch of teams restructuring contracts and bringing bonuses forward instead

 

[Woodson]

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Thanx for the follow up feedback entourage.

Informative article there Sven. Here's another element that has 'allegedly' been a stumbling block... ticket prices & Blackout rule..

....that curbing the rising cost of attending games is one of the reasons for the lockout.: Goodell

Source: NBC Sports- ProFootball

Mike Freeman from CBS Sports predicts a new labor deal will be announced on June 30, .... that some of the parties in the negotiations believe an agreement could be reached “within a matter of days.”

source: NBC Sports- ProFootball

 

[Sven]

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Thanx for the follow up feedback entourage.

Informative article there Sven. Here's another element that has 'allegedly' been a stumbling block... ticket prices & Blackout rule..



Source: NBC Sports- ProFootball

....

That quote from Goodell would have to be the biggest load of bullsh!t that I've read so far. No wonder Goodell is on a $1 salary - he's lost grip on reality.

The lockout is all about who gets what and how much, it has nothing to do with ticket prices.

 

[drd23]

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The lockout is all about who gets what and how much, it has nothing to do with ticket prices.

Absolutely, but it is the latest spin he is using to try to justify the lockout to the fans. It apparently started in a telephone conference with TB season ticket holders.

Its simple economics that the lockout isnt about ticket prices. Reducing the player costs won't result in lower ticket prices because the demand for tickets will (for the foreseeable future at least) be higher than the supply, which means that plenty of franchises can charge more for their tickets and still sell out their stadiums.

I feel sorry for those that fall for this crap

 

[Southerntakeover]

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If you are dreaming about Asomugha, I'll think you'll be disappointed whenever FA comes around

There are few destinations that make anywhere near as much sense.

Still...

Aso / Joseph / Cro.... All massive upgrades over the duds we started this year opposite Asante.

 

[MarcusP2]

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The CBA has always had a salary floor.

And I dont think that a salary floor will cause a FA bonanza, it could just lead to a whole bunch of teams restructuring contracts and bringing bonuses forward instead

Last year there wasn't one though, so teams with low payrolls have a massive amount of space that has to be taken up, i.e the Bucs may have $43m that they are required to spend.

 

[Dagless]

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Last year there wasn't one though, so teams with low payrolls have a massive amount of space that has to be taken up, i.e the Bucs may have $43m that they are required to spend.

Asomugha can fix that up quicksmart