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Originally posted by Nic
I hate "it's" and "its" - now I'm not sure I've ever been typing them right.:p
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As an English teacher, I feel called to help... ;)

It is can be contracted to it's

but

the item belonging to 'it' can never be written it's

Just remember that you only use the apostrophe when contracting :)
 
Originally posted by Pred
As an English teacher, I feel called to help... ;)

It is can be contracted to it's

but

the item belonging to 'it' can never be written it's
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Again, I realise that it's the way it works, but I just don't agree that it should work that way!

Originally posted by Pred
Just remember that you only use the apostrophe when contracting :)
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Ok. I read about Marys lamb.

:p
 
Originally posted by Mobbenfuhrer
Yeah but you've changed the WHOLE word in those cases.

David - david's.
Wolf - wolf's.
Azalea - Azalea's.
Skyscraper - skyscraper's.
???? - his.

There's no word it comes from that's just an adding of " 's ". Therefore it's different.
So why It - its?
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About to leave for the footy, so I'm not going to be incredibly thorough and could be wrong. Checked with my grammar book. It's because it's a possessive pronoun I could be wrong, but I don't believe there is an apostrophe of ours, theirs etc. either.
 
That's not one I really care about though. The of instead of have is a bad one, but nothing makes me want to -edit- like seeing the following on a fish and chips menu:

minimum chip's - $2.20
dim sim's - 50c
sausage roll's - $1.50


Eeek! People seem to see an s and assume there has to be an apostrophe. This is even worse when the plural ends with a 'y' as people seem to have forgotten the rule about changing it to 'ies'.
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Jeezes - this one drives me f*cking mental too. Why do people write one dog, two dog's. ***** - you should have learnt that one in grade one FFS - it's two dogs!!!
 

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Checked with my grammar book. It's because it's a possessive pronoun I could be wrong, but I don't believe there is an apostrophe of ours, theirs etc. either.
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This is right. No possessive pronouns have the apostrophe, only possessiver nouns.

Checking my Style Guide, it is used to be contracted to 'tis, so that it's could be used as a possessive pronoun. This changed by 1800 when 'tis dropped out of use, and the current rules were adopted so its and it's could be distinguished.

It's quite easy really - it's always and only represents it is (or occasionally it has).
 
The 'looser' gets up my skirt a lot but it is the SMS spelling that really makes things hard to read.

As for the English lessons here, I learnt that years ago. It's nice to see that most of us are trying to bring back correctness.

Typos are easily distinguishable but surely a few people can learn from the advice here. (not looking at anyone ;) )


this is the first post I have actually sat and reread what I posted just to make sure it was all correct.) :D
 
Originally posted by Thrawn
That's not a spelling error. That's a grammatical error. "Your" is spelt correctly because, well, it's a true word. But when people use this word in a sentence such as "your not right", then that's a grammatical error.
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it is also spelt wrongly.

just as "look over their" would be.

now i'm no english teacher, but just because you misspell a word and it happens to be another word (two, to, too), surely that doesn't mean it's no longer a spelling mistake.
 
Originally posted by nicko18
now i'm no english teacher, but just because you misspell a word and it happens to be another word (two, to, too), surely that doesn't mean it's no longer a spelling mistake.
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It's called being lazy. But given the number of words in the Macquarie Dictionary being the Australian version, I am not surprised at what gets shoved in there as common spelling anymore. Is it the 'Americanisation of the English language?

Not having a go necessarily but are speech patterns and accents defining what the spelling becomes?
 
Originally posted by Katthawk
It's called being lazy. But given the number of words in the Macquarie Dictionary being the Australian version, I am not surprised at what gets shoved in there as common spelling anymore. Is it the 'Americanisation of the English language?

Not having a go necessarily but are speech patterns and accents defining what the spelling becomes?
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it's not lazy, people do not know the difference (at least those on the rugby board anyway, because i commented on the irony of his "your a goose award" and he didnt have a clue what i meant about his spelling mistake, and he continues to use it :D

PS: "Americanization" isn't it? ;)
 
the fact that i don't read i think is one of the reasons i still know how to spell. my mum reads all the time and she's always misspelling words using the american, english, australian versions etc...

since i dont read, i spell the words how i leant them way back in primary skool. hence not many mistakes.



though having said that, i'd hate to think what i'll be like reading too many bigfooty posts
 
Originally posted by nicko18
PS: "Americanization" isn't it? ;)
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Ah, you got it!! Nah, it's still immunisation and defence and colour and my own personal one.... schedule... the pronunciation is ... shed-ule. (numerous others as well)

But it seems pronunciation and accents is purely cultural.

Bad spelling is mere ignorance. :)
 
Along with the regular spelling mistakes including "loose" instead of "lose", "definately" instead of "definitely" and "seperate" instead of "separate", people seem to spell "consistent" as "consistant". :confused:
 
Well I for one am sick of some of the posters on this sites, total lack of effort when it comes to proof reading what they have posted.
I mean its just comon courtesy that you take the time to make sure your spelling is accurate.
;) :D
 

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Originally posted by sabre_ac
Well I for one am sick of some of the posters on this sites, total lack of effort when it comes to proof reading what they have posted.
I mean its just comon courtesy that you take the time to make sure your spelling is accurate.
;) :D
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What! You don't remember how some swear words are spelt? For shame.

And you are a mod.. ;)
 
meter is always a common mistake as well. (disntance unit, not the music thingo)
 
Originally posted by Katthawk
Ah, you got it!! Nah, it's still immunisation and defence and colour and my own personal one.... schedule... the pronunciation is ... shed-ule. (numerous others as well)

But it seems pronunciation and accents is purely cultural.

Bad spelling is mere ignorance. :)
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how is schedule supposed to be pronouced??

i say "skedule" but my dad swears it is "shedule"
 
Originally posted by nicko18
it is also spelt wrongly.

just as "look over their" would be.

now i'm no english teacher, but just because you misspell a word and it happens to be another word (two, to, too), surely that doesn't mean it's no longer a spelling mistake.
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It's not a spelling mistake. It's just the wrong word being used. Exactly like in your example; there is no spelling error, but you used the wrong word. If you use a word in the wrong context, that is not a spelling mistake. If a true word were to be mispelled however, that is considered a spelling mistake.

It's a mistake in grammar, not spelling. Learn the difference. Or else Ill post like this too u all teh time. r u shure u understand? ;)
 

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are you saying meter is a grammar error because it is a correct spelling for another word?


it wouldn't be a spelling mistake if the wrong word was used i agree, but if the intention of not using that word and the spelling just happens to match another word, well that's an error in spelling.
 
Originally posted by nicko18
are you saying meter is a grammar error because it is a correct spelling for another word?
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If you use a word (that's actually spelt right) in the wrong context, that is not a spelling mistake.

Using the wrong word such as your in "your not getting it" is an error of grammar. It's NOT a spelling mistake because there IS such a word as "your" and that is the correct spelling of it. Ergo, it's NOT a spelling mistake.

Meter would only be an error of grammar if you used it in the wrong context!

it wouldn't be a spelling mistake if the wrong word was used i agree, but if the intention of not using that word and the spelling just happens to match another word, well that's an error in spelling.
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Noticed that you've contradicted yourself? That's NOT a spelling mistake! That's a grammatical error! A "spelling mistake" is when you misspell a word! This is a spelling mistake:

"I saw my unckle today. He went shoping after he dropped by for a visit."

This is a mistake of grammar:

"He dead a long time ago. A few years ago I see him on the bus."

OR

"Your not going to play football with your mates if you don't support carlton. You're football is flat anyway."

Do you understand now Nicko?
 
are you an english teacher thrawn? because if not, i will ask one on monday, and we'll settle this.
 

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