Make an argument that Judd is not the dirtiest player in the game.

[laminex]

You need to remember, this is Carlton we're talking about. They've built a history on lies and deception, I wouldn't expect anything else from them.

You do know when the salary cap started don't you?? You also know Carlton's paperwork has been gone thru a million times and it shows we never cheated the cap in a premiership year. So what history are you talking about. Your post is a post of a little worker bee who complains about everyone who does because you do not have the balls to do, you live a small life and you think small, that is your fault deal with it.

 

[laminex]

Yeah, I saw Lingy the other day, who looked completely distraught and traumatised at the damage his thick cotton/polyester blend jumper received that day.

Lest we forget.

Wow just wow i really can not add to this other than to say he smeared his own what could have been infected with god knows what on another player because he did not want to go of the ground. If he did that in public he would be charged with a number of assault chargers and sued. But then again you guys have a great culture of players driving around with murders and doing nothing about it to save innocent lives, drunk driving and lying about it. Nothing wrong with that right.

 

[laminex]

When you actually stop and think about it, it's a really disturbing thing for him to have done. It wasn't as though North did anything to him.
He was just lying there, defenceless. Very weird, I'd pay to know what on earth he was actually thinking when he was doing it.

Yes when you stop and think about it, he did not have a chance to stop or watch it in super slow motion to make the judgements you are making. So what was he thinking tackle the player just the as rioli did to our ruckman.

 

[PieBeast]

I agree he and Wellingham are cowards atleast Judd admitted to it and told them he was there to cop his whack. He did not go on TV and brag about taking out a player and laugh about it. So out of the 2 evils i would take Judd because he can face what he did and admit he was wrong, Wellingham just want to keep on sniping. I can see thats fine by you so that make you a coward

Judd never admitted to intentionally doing what he did.
And the whole carlton defense was based on lie upon lie.
And Wellingham's was a regulation hip and shoulder while Judd committed a dog-like act, hence one was charged with unsportsmanlike behavior and the other wasn't.
You have nothing.

 

[laminex]

Judd never admitted to intentionally doing what he did.
And the whole carlton defense was based on lie upon lie.
And Wellingham's was a regulation hip and shoulder while Judd committed a dog-like act, hence one was charged with unsportsmanlike behavior and the other wasn't.
You have nothing.

Regulation hip and shoulder so a hip and should is hitting a player in the face while you are leaping of the ground not looking at the ball.

Ok mate if that is what you want to believe good for you.

as for me not having nothing i have a job and all my teeth so that is 2 things you don't have

 

[PieBeast]

Regulation hip and shoulder so a hip and should is hitting a player in the face while you are leaping of the ground not looking at the ball.

Ok mate if that is what you want to believe good for you.

as for me not having nothing i have a job and all my teeth so that is 2 things you don't have

Thats not want I want to believe, that the reality.
Judd lied and didn't accept responsibility while Wellingham did the opposite.

No amount of lame jokes and smilies can cover your pain.

 

[laminex]

Thats not want I want to believe, that the reality.
Judd lied and didn't accept responsibility while Wellingham did the opposite.

No amount of lame jokes and smilies can cover your pain.

lol pain, pain from what. I enjoy reading your posts it makes me happy we take care of the slow people here. In other country's you would have been left to fend for your self and ended up dead in the gutter. You just live there but you are not dead.

 

[PieBeast]

lol pain, pain from what. I enjoy reading your posts it makes me happy we take care of the slow people here. In other country's you would have been left to fend for your self and ended up dead in the gutter. You just live there but you are not dead.

hahaha thats the pain I was talking about.
Keep going lami, your hysterics and one-eyedness are legendary on this board, won't be long before you start apologising like you always do
Judd will be forever known as one of the dirtiest players to ever play the game and there's nothing you can do about it.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Wow just wow i really can not add to this other than to say he smeared his own what could have been infected with god knows what on another player because he did not want to go of the ground. If he did that in public he would be charged with a number of assault chargers and sued. But then again you guys have a great culture of players driving around with murders and doing nothing about it to save innocent lives, drunk driving and lying about it. Nothing wrong with that right.

See how frustrating it is when people defend the indefensible?

So maybe you peons should stop it then hmm?

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

See how frustrating it is when people defend the indefensible?

So maybe you peons should stop it then hmm?

Underrated sledge.

 

[Big Bruce]

I have only read a few bits of the thread and I don't know if this has been said already but I'd also like to add to Judds record as captain, the Fev on brownlow night and the river cruse night with the young bloke. As a captain he was there on both occations and let them both happen.
I'd expect that hodge as captain of my club would not let these things happen if he was around.

 

[Chief]

Sooooo let's stop the personal comments.

 

[Gold Member]

What's the bet there is some kind of link here?

 

[AngryLittleMan]

'Deliberate' is your opinion, on which you have slapped lipstick and a skirt and are now escorting around town as undeniable fact.

What else was he doing? Trying to stop him from handballing ...If anyone honestly belives that they have some serious mental issues.

 

[Chief]

Do you honestly believe that Judd formed the thought "This move oughta dislocate his arm! ... pop... Success!"

 

[Chief]

What's the bet there is some kind of link here?

Possibly, though much more likely to be an Al Qaeda connection brokered by the shadowy company of powerful men who organised the fake moon landing.

 

[Chief]

See how frustrating it is when people defend the indefensible?

More opinion tarted up as fact.

 

[AngryLittleMan]

Do you honestly believe that Judd formed the thought "This move oughta dislocate his arm! ... pop... Success!"

I would love to know what he was thinking, but that seems just as plausible as "I was trying to stop him from handballing when he clearly had a player on top of him and was face flat on the ground and the ball was effectively dead." I think judd was trying to hurt him maybe not that badly but Ill ask you and any other Carlton supporter, do you honestly think he was grabbing Adams arm to stop him from handballing?

 

[worthy]

Do you honestly believe that Judd formed the thought "This move oughta dislocate his arm! ... pop... Success!"

No, he was probably thinking "this should hurt" pop "whoops, to far".

 

[AngryLittleMan]

No, he was probably thinking "this should hurt" pop "whoops, to far".

Sounds about right to me.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

More opinion tarted up as fact.

Wait what?

Soooo, you don't think it's frustrating when people defend something that's indefensible?

You're a better person than most then.

 

[Partridge]

And the point is, in every one of those cases, the player was immobilised and unable to defend themselves. Real courage Judd, you gutless wonder.

And it's a very good point you make about the AFL allowing him to get away with things in the past. It's a bit like Carlton continuing to turn a blind eye on Fevola's behaviour until he disgraced himself. The AFL should have rubbed Judd out at least 2-3 times before and has failed in its duty.

I'm still trying to get over the time he eye gouged Campbell Brown. Judd got off, and Brown got one game lying to the tribunal. In other words, they didn't believe Brown that Judd didn't eye gouge him, but they DID believe Judd that he didn't eye gouge. Work that one out, and you're better than most.

It's not just that - although that's still one of the prime examples. My memory of that more than any other thing was those gutless sheep in the media absolutely falling over themselves to say how he couldn't be guilty, he's a ball player, just fawning sycophants drooling over him as usual. 5 years later nothing has changed.

He has eye gouged an opponent, got off, then watched giggling while the victim got suspended. Then he eye gouged a different player, and only through being a smug smartarse at the tribunal actually did get suspended. He elbowed a player to the face, split his cheek open, but somehow got off. And was given the Brownlow (probably written into his contract like his AA Captaincy in 2008).

He has noticeably been declining as a footballer for some time, but all you'll ever hear from McAveney, Darcy and company are how great he is. They even say this when he kicks the ball straight to the opposition. They still call him the best player in the competition - he's not even the best at his club.

Now he finally gets some just desserts. I don't expect the media opinion to change though.

The fact is he is the quintessential selfish sportsman. He doesn't care one iota about West Coast, or Carlton, or the game, or anything else. He cares about getting bucketloads of money and having his myth maintained. That's it.

 

[Partridge]

I have only read a few bits of the thread and I don't know if this has been said already but I'd also like to add to Judds record as captain, the Fev on brownlow night and the river cruse night with the young bloke. As a captain he was there on both occations and let them both happen.
I'd expect that hodge as captain of my club would not let these things happen if he was around.

Doesn't matter. He sent a bowl of chips back. That takes courage.

 

[Thommo 42]

Do you honestly believe that Judd formed the thought "This move oughta dislocate his arm! ... pop... Success!"

who knows?

I wonder what his thought process was when he decided to attack Brown's eyes, or when he attacked the face of Riscatelli? Or perhaps when he cracked Pavlich in the face with a cheap little elbow?

When you have a history of such dirty little snipes, you don't get the benefit of the doubt in regards to your intention or thoughts, you are judged on your actions.

 

[Koki Freelander]

'Deliberate' is your opinion, on which you have slapped lipstick and a skirt and are now escorting around town as undeniable fact.

Are you saying that he accidentally picked up his arm? That it fell into his lap? Sorry to bring reality into a carlton landscape, but go and break someone's jaw in a pub, then go and tell the judge "Yes I hit him, but I did not deliberately break his jaw" and see what the judge says.

One is accountable for the consequences of one's actions, even when the consequences were not what were intended.