Conspiracy Theory Mandates, Lockdowns, Covid-19, SARS-Cov-2 Thread - Get vaccinated.

[Chief]

Those killed are at life expectancy.

At life expectancy from birth or from their current age? My last look at that said it was killing people earlier than their current life expectancy.

If you make it to 80, your life expectancy is longer than when you make it to your first birthday.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

We be been the most locked down city in the world. WTF have you been?
What are your policies?

You didn't answer any of my questions.

My policy is to follow the experts and not pretend that i know better because i spent 5 mins on facebook and not throw my toys out of the cot because it's all too hard.

 

[Chief]

What neo Nazis are wondering around Melbourne? It's a figment of your imagination?

 

[Chief]

Far right infiltrating anti-mandate rallies:

Where 'freedom' meets the far right: the hate messages infiltrating Australian anti-lockdown protests

Exclusive: Harrison McLean has become a key organiser of Melbourne rallies against Covid restrictions, while maintaining ‘Hitler had some good points’ in extremist online groups

www.theguardian.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/09/21/australia-melbourne-vaccine-protests-construction-lockdown/

 

[Wosh]

Covid is harmless to most. It is not the Armageddon effect you think it is.

What about people with asthma? Cancer? Heart issues? Kidney or lung diseases? Compromised immune systems for whatever reasons?
Do you know any loved ones who have gotten very very sick from covid, or someone you love with cancer who’s immunity and life hangs on a thread?

Do you treat them like collateral damage? Should we treat everyone in society unlucky to be sick or older like collateral damage? End of life cycle? Lock them away?
Think about what you’re typing, it’s heartless, selfish garbage.

 

[Run n Spread]

What about people with asthma? Cancer? Heart issues? Kidney or lung diseases? Compromised immune systems for whatever reasons?
Do you know any loved ones who have gotten very very sick from covid, or someone you love with cancer who’s immunity and life hangs on a thread?

Do you treat them like collateral damage? Should we treat everyone in society unlucky to be sick or older like collateral damage? End of life cycle? Lock them away?
Think about what you’re typing, it’s heartless, selfish garbage.

Yes I do know people who have been very sick and had compromised immunity.Not everything is about covid FFS they certainly weren't getting mentioned at press conferences.

People in life get sick and die. I have been sick and needed hospitalisation. Same as always you research, treat and improve treatment capacity.
Not shut everything creating the problems that creates.
Tell me where was your concern for these vulnerable during meningococcal, legionnaires HOV staff, polio outbreaks.
A sensible proportional response is needed. Not some wild ideological crusade.
3rd year on and it's clear the armegeddon event is not what was anticipated.
Calling me heartless or using emotional manipulation or what of statements doesn't cut it in forming a coherent argument. Not does blindly accepting every ridiculous (no dancing accept at weddings) rule that comes up.
Fear has totally panicked people and you've lost all perspective.

 

[Run n Spread]

I'm also curious except one poster people have been quick to ask me what Id do yet refuse to detail their own policy?
Tell me Wosh how many bankruptcies suicides caused by lockdowns deaths from cancelled treatment is acceptable to you? Are these people collateral damage? You sound equally as heartless if you want to play that game.
So all these asking me what are your policies? Or do you advocate just blindly following advice such as going outside will kill people?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Calling me heartless or using emotional manipulation or what of statements doesn't cut it in forming a coherent argument. Not does blindly accepting every ridiculous (no dancing accept at weddings) rule that comes up.
Fear has totally panicked people and you've lost all perspective.

Are you a dancer?

 

[Run n Spread]

Are you a dancer?

What? That is the most stupid innane question which totally misses the point.
No btw although I better not according to the expert advice it's the most dangerous thing I could do

 

[Run n Spread]

Some obscure people off twitter majority of those against restrictions have never heard of. Equivalent is me saying Carlton has supporters who were criminals so all Carlton supporters must distance from the underworld and by supporting the club condone this

 

[Wosh]

I'm also curious except one poster people have been quick to ask me what Id do yet refuse to detail their own policy?
Tell me Wosh how many bankruptcies suicides caused by lockdowns deaths from cancelled treatment is acceptable to you? Are these people collateral damage? You sound equally as heartless if you want to play that game.
So all these asking me what are your policies? Or do you advocate just blindly following advice such as going outside will kill people?

Calm down, covid isn’t about you. Lots of people are suffering and have suffered in many ways. If you’re going to be aggressive I’ll turf you.

 

[Chief]

Equivalent is me saying Carlton has supporters who were criminals so all Carlton supporters must distance from the underworld and by supporting the club condone this

No it's not. It would be if those criminals were organising rallies against mandates and lockdowns and shit and I was attending.

 

[Run n Spread]

Far right infiltrating anti-mandate rallies:

Where 'freedom' meets the far right: the hate messages infiltrating Australian anti-lockdown protests

Exclusive: Harrison McLean has become a key organiser of Melbourne rallies against Covid restrictions, while maintaining ‘Hitler had some good points’ in extremist online groups

www.theguardian.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/09/21/australia-melbourne-vaccine-protests-construction-lockdown/

Infiltration or organising?
Either way I've never heard of those people.
But overall sole question is
The right to bodily autonomy and civil rights
Or
Lockdowns censorship and arrest for incitement
more in line with Nazism or a totalitarian ideology?

 

[Run n Spread]

Calm down, covid isn’t about you. Lots of people are suffering and have suffered in many ways. If you’re going to be aggressive I’ll turf you.

It certainly isn't nor about you or anyone on this board.
Surely sensible policy seeks to alleviate unnecessary suffering?
Wasn't aggressive at all I answered a question and asked some in response

 

[Chief]

The right to bodily autonomy and civil rights
Or
Lockdowns censorship and arrest for incitement
more in line with Nazism or a totalitarian ideology?

They are in there, recruiting.

Make no mistake they are sharks.

 

[Run n Spread]

They are in there, recruiting.

Make no mistake they are sharks.

Great. We should restrict any questions or protests on the basis bad people exist.
FFS let people make their own decisions.
That means taking a risk assessment and protecting themselves and their loved ones communities etc how they see fit in case of a pandemic or emergency or avoid recruitment into a Neo Nazis organisation. Or a virus with a greater than 99% survival rate.
Believe or not people don't need governments or bureaucracy to tell right from wrong or govern every aspect of their lives

 

[Chief]

We should restrict any questions or protests on the basis bad people exist.

Or just know the people you're in bed with.

 

[Chief]

That means taking a risk assessment and protecting themselves and their loved ones communities etc how they see fit

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Why You’re Probably Not So Great at Risk Assessment (Published 2020)

Our minds don’t always see risk clearly — and that’s important to remember as you navigate life after lockdown.

www.nytimes.com

Optimistic bias. This is a “very, very basic and well-established finding in social psychology, which is that people think that their own risk is less than that of other people’s risk,” said Dr. Helweg-Larsen. Optimistic bias is the reason we order a side of bacon even though we know diets high in processed meats correlate with a higher risk of colon cancer. Surely colon cancer happens to other people, right? Dr. Helweg-Larsen said this phenomenon was found in cultures all over the world. However, people living in heavily individualistic societies — like the United States — tend to exhibit higher levels of optimistic bias.

 

[Run n Spread]

Or just know the people you're in bed with.

Sure. You heard of the Socialist Alliance?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Infiltration or organising?
Either way I've never heard of those people.
But overall sole question is
The right to bodily autonomy and civil rights
Or
Lockdowns censorship and arrest for incitement
more in line with Nazism or a totalitarian ideology?

You've never heard of them, despite these and similar articles being posted here repeatedly over the past 12 months?

 

[Run n Spread]

You've never heard of them, despite these and similar articles being posted here repeatedly over the past 12 months?

Believe or not I'm busy working and trying to live my life and don't have time to research every single obscure group off the internet
Like anyone my times limited. I research educate myself and listen to all experts across all fields where possible as well as keeping up to date with the law.
Not really interested in dealing with extremists on either side. Difference is extremists in government federal and state and unelected bureaucracy are running peoples lives to an unacceptable standard on shoddy evidence fear and disproportionate policies which frankly just follow a script

 

[Mick F]

Yes I do know people who have been very sick and had compromised immunity.Not everything is about covid FFS they certainly weren't getting mentioned at press conferences.

People in life get sick and die. I have been sick and needed hospitalisation. Same as always you research, treat and improve treatment capacity.
Not shut everything creating the problems that creates.
Tell me where was your concern for these vulnerable during meningococcal, legionnaires HOV staff, polio outbreaks.
A sensible proportional response is needed. Not some wild ideological crusade.
3rd year on and it's clear the armegeddon event is not what was anticipated.
Calling me heartless or using emotional manipulation or what of statements doesn't cut it in forming a coherent argument. Not does blindly accepting every ridiculous (no dancing accept at weddings) rule that comes up.
Fear has totally panicked people and you've lost all perspective.

Coherent??? Your posts are very hard to read and decipher.

 

[Run n Spread]

Coherent??? Your posts are very hard to read and decipher.

How so? They are either a response to a question or quote my opinion or questioning decisions made.

 

[Mick F]

How so? They are either a response to a question or quote my opinion or questioning decisions made.

What is ‘quote my opinion’???

Best if you keep to the ‘Dr Fauci is Satan’ thread. I’ll read the erudite contributors.

 

[Run n Spread]

What is ‘quote my opinion’???

Best if you keep to the ‘Dr Fauci is Satan’ thread. I’ll read the erudite contributors.

When did I say Anthony Fauci is Satan? Quote me.
I certainly have questioned he's inconsistent responses and lies at relevant Senate hearings I've seen

All be it he is a US bureaucrat I'm not fussed about. But go ahead quote me. Where have I called him Satan?
Quoting an opinion simply means give it. You know something you do on an opinion forum on the internet