Science/Environment Mars Colonisation

[tazzietiger]

At the current moment I dont think the American government will push to much money into Nasa to land a human on Mars. I know at the end of the day its about getting our foot print on other planets to say we've been there but at the current moment I think robots are cheaper and are doing the current jobs set out by Nasa on learning and gaining info on Mars. Dont forget manned Mars missions will only be one of the ideas set out in the NASA, DARPA 100-Year Starship Study in what future technology we would need. IMO to invent the technology Im guessing they would be requiring to make long space travel safe. They'll need another space arms race to happen to increase funding to the levels they will require. If a space race does evolve over the next 100 years it'll most likely be against China or Russia seeing how its likely they might have a resource boom over the next couple of decades.

 

[Pie eyed]

Im ****ing in.

Childhood dream.

I'd be more enthusiastic if the destination had a bit more to offer.
I think it ironic to plan to escape from our potentially global warming ravaged little sphere to a smaller one long ago infinitely more harshly ravaged than our own.

I'd rather go one way on an inter galactic mission than one way to an uber-desert.

 

[Malifice]

I'd be more enthusiastic if the destination had a bit more to offer.
I think it ironic to plan to escape from our potentially global warming ravaged little sphere to a smaller one long ago infinitely more harshly ravaged than our own.

I'd rather go one way on an inter galactic mission than one way to an uber-desert.

You would almost certainly have like a continent on Mars or similar named after you.

Immortality?

Count me in.

 

[smiths]

Go with a hot chick and hope she doesn't turn you down.

 

[Pie eyed]

You would almost certainly have like a continent on Mars or similar named after you.

Immortality?

Count me in.

LOL.
Lacking any oceans you'd probably have to be happy with a tektonic plate.

The Great Pie eyed Plate.

 

[Illinois Nazi]

You would almost certainly have like a continent on Mars or similar named after you.

Immortality?

Count me in.

But then in a couple of hundred years they'll start changing them all to the "traditional" Martian names.

 

[Kim Hagdorn]

At the current moment I dont think the American government will push to much money into Nasa to land a human on Mars. I know at the end of the day its about getting our foot print on other planets to say we've been there but at the current moment I think robots are cheaper and are doing the current jobs set out by Nasa on learning and gaining info on Mars.

Yeah, I think a lot of the critics of a manned mission to Mars believe that the money would be far better spent on less costly and risky space projects.

 

[Pie eyed]

Yeah, I think a lot of the critics of a manned mission to Mars believe that the money would be far better spent on less costly and risky space projects.

Such as?

 

[Malifice]

But then in a couple of hundred years they'll start changing them all to the "traditional" Martian names.

Dont think there are any Martians up there naming stuff.

Be even more awesome if there were though.

 

[placebo]

Dont think there are any Martians up there naming stuff.

Be even more awesome if there were though.

Not if they were 'The Martian Chronicles' Bradbury-esque martians.

 

[Malifice]

Not if they were 'The Martian Chronicles' Bradbury-esque martians.

Ill take the blue sky package thank you very much.

 

[JoondalupJ]

Great to hear that this is seriously being considered. I would love to see a permanent human colony on another world during my lifetime.

I would volunteer for this

You won't need to volunteer it will never happen. Its dreamland. With all the scientific experts around this planet I fail to understand how they still haven't come to terms with distance and cost and even feasability of "star trekky" wishful thinking.
Mars is too far away and its "close" in terms of space distance.
If humans can ever devise a way to travel at the speed of light they still have to know exactly where they are going and what to expect when arriving , they never ever will because the first time what if it fails will they have the billions and billions and billions of dollars to try again.
We need to get this joint sorted out before moving "out there". Your's and my lifetimes will be ancient history before this dream will ever eventuate to even a try.
The universe or universes are too big to far and its all theory as to what is actually out there, just plain old human scientific maybes. Who makes up the matter and anti matter theories and all this gobbledy gook. Its actually fun sometimes listening to these highly
respected scientists raving about there theorys , you see its all maybes, even the moon is a world financial disaster if ever they wanted to mine it , it can never happen , not for thousands of years of work and humans probably will have killed themselves off by then .
We are no dinasaurs, remember , we've only been here for the blink of an eye.

 

[JoondalupJ]

I would be assuming my partner could come with me.

You would be creating history, the first people to colonise another planet. What an adventure

No adventure just nightmare.

 

[Niximus]

No adventure just nightmare.

To you maybe. To others it would be absolutely worth it.

 

[Niximus]

You won't need to volunteer it will never happen. Its dreamland. With all the scientific experts around this planet I fail to understand how they still haven't come to terms with distance and cost and even feasability of "star trekky" wishful thinking.
Mars is too far away and its "close" in terms of space distance.
If humans can ever devise a way to travel at the speed of light they still have to know exactly where they are going and what to expect when arriving , they never ever will because the first time what if it fails will they have the billions and billions and billions of dollars to try again.
We need to get this joint sorted out before moving "out there". Your's and my lifetimes will be ancient history before this dream will ever eventuate to even a try.
The universe or universes are too big to far and its all theory as to what is actually out there, just plain old human scientific maybes. Who makes up the matter and anti matter theories and all this gobbledy gook. Its actually fun sometimes listening to these highly
respected scientists raving about there theorys , you see its all maybes, even the moon is a world financial disaster if ever they wanted to mine it , it can never happen , not for thousands of years of work and humans probably will have killed themselves off by then .
We are no dinasaurs, remember , we've only been here for the blink of an eye.

Why would we need to travel at the speed of light. At our current technology Mars is only a few months away.

Any colony on Mars would initially be reliant on supplies from Earth but over time would develop self-sufficiency.

I personally think that the private sector will be the ones who push space exploration along. People will find was to make money doing it.

 

[Malifice]

No adventure just nightmare.

Open your mind.

 

[TheMightyEagles]

I love this stuff. Hope I get to see it in my lifetime

 

[Pie eyed]

You won't need to volunteer it will never happen. Its dreamland. With all the scientific experts around this planet I fail to understand how they still haven't come to terms with distance and cost and even feasability of "star trekky" wishful thinking.
Mars is too far away and its "close" in terms of space distance.
If humans can ever devise a way to travel at the speed of light they still have to know exactly where they are going and what to expect when arriving , they never ever will because the first time what if it fails will they have the billions and billions and billions of dollars to try again.
We need to get this joint sorted out before moving "out there". Your's and my lifetimes will be ancient history before this dream will ever eventuate to even a try.
The universe or universes are too big to far and its all theory as to what is actually out there, just plain old human scientific maybes. Who makes up the matter and anti matter theories and all this gobbledy gook. Its actually fun sometimes listening to these highly
respected scientists raving about there theorys , you see its all maybes, even the moon is a world financial disaster if ever they wanted to mine it , it can never happen , not for thousands of years of work and humans probably will have killed themselves off by then .
We are no dinasaurs, remember , we've only been here for the blink of an eye.

I'd be for any investment in further exploration, but terrestrial concerns will see that money won't be as forthcoming as expected. The US is more concerned with "perceived" security and world liberation issues than it is with it's own poor so I can't them spending the money needed until they can let go of their paranoia or stop the "conversion" of every state on earth.
To be honest no other country could afford it solo and getting more than one country to devote the necessary resources in the absence of the US seem unlikely....at least in the current socio-political climate.

Then there is also the issue of whether the Godless Muslims or Islam would be invited to have a stake in such a venture?

 

[Pie eyed]

You won't need to volunteer it will never happen. Its dreamland. With all the scientific experts around this planet I fail to understand how they still haven't come to terms with distance and cost and even feasability of "star trekky" wishful thinking.
Mars is too far away and its "close" in terms of space distance.
If humans can ever devise a way to travel at the speed of light they still have to know exactly where they are going and what to expect when arriving , they never ever will because the first time what if it fails will they have the billions and billions and billions of dollars to try again.
We need to get this joint sorted out before moving "out there". Your's and my lifetimes will be ancient history before this dream will ever eventuate to even a try.
The universe or universes are too big to far and its all theory as to what is actually out there, just plain old human scientific maybes. Who makes up the matter and anti matter theories and all this gobbledy gook. Its actually fun sometimes listening to these highly
respected scientists raving about there theorys , you see its all maybes, even the moon is a world financial disaster if ever they wanted to mine it , it can never happen , not for thousands of years of work and humans probably will have killed themselves off by then .
We are no dinasaurs, remember , we've only been here for the blink of an eye.

I'd be for any investment in further exploration, but terrestrial concerns will see that money won't be as forthcoming as expected. The US is more concerned with "perceived" security and world liberation issues than it is with it's own poor so I can't them spending the money needed until they can let go of their paranoia or stop the "conversion" of every state on earth.
To be honest no other country could afford it solo and getting more than one country to devote the necessary resources in the absence of the US seem unlikely....at least in the current socio-political climate.

Then there is also the issue of whether the Godless Muslims or Islam would be invited to have a stake in such a venture?

 

[Wallaby]

I'm not sure about one-way trips. I don't think you could build a meaningful community that would be of any value. Yes, I know they happened historically on earth (some worked, some didn't), but they were basically small copies of the originating settlement - ie you knew you could do some sort of farming, you knew how to fish and hunt. you could breathe the air, so you could build basically the same houses etc.

I think keep sending the robots out there and keep gathering the data. The moon looks like a bit of a dead end, so not a lot of future there (mining, maybe). No point building a spaceport there - a space station in earth orbit is far more useful for departing to the rest of the solar system.

Terraform Mars first (probably take a few hundred years, although I have heard estimates as low as 100 years) - if you can build up a breathable atmosphere, then maybe send out the colonists.

 

[AndSmithMustScore]

It would get very boring very quickly, no thanks.

 

[Kim Hagdorn]

Such as?

I guess robotic probes and landers to the outer solar system.

 

[Pie eyed]

I guess robotic probes and landers to the outer solar system.

Sorry. Missed you tack there. I take it for granted that unmanned exploration will continue regardless of manned missions. It's a given for mine.

 

[Basti28]

You won't need to volunteer it will never happen. Its dreamland. With all the scientific experts around this planet I fail to understand how they still haven't come to terms with distance and cost and even feasability of "star trekky" wishful thinking.

A wide eyed kid reading a Buck Rogers comic back in the late 1920's was probably told that space travel and landing on the moon were equally absurd.

I'm in my mid 40's and I sure as hell never envisaged exchanging film clips with people in China, or walking around with my entire life time music collection on an object half the size of a matchbox, when I was 13 years old.

As for a telephone that I could walk around with in my pocket?

Forget about it.

 

[Kram]

I think I read somewhere that the cost of a manned trip to Mars could get up towards a trillion dollars. About half the missions so far have failed although the success rate is improving, the question is given the costs and risks involved would the knowledge gained be worth it to attempt such a mission at least in the foreseeable future?