Martin Hardie: I write the forms... I think Evans ran the program

[Cylon7]

CozzaD noone gives a shit about conflict of interest and profiteering on this board mate.

Tell us how Hird is the kingpin in your consipiracy theories or heck off.

Have a look into the Docklands Stadium wheelings and dealings. All the contracts went to people in the club you're referring to and that's why we get shit beer and shit, overpriced food.

I'm interested in hearing about conflicts of interest.

 

[CozzaD]

BigWigs from the rich end of town having fingers in many pies.
Hmmm That's surprising.

Rich people have rich friends and move in rich circles.

This has happened since Babylon.

Now. When is Hird going to face the music?

I don’t know what’s more shameful, the actual potential criminality behind the “ASADA” matter (Conflict of Interest or otherwise), or the fact that people will just “bend over and take it”, in terms of accepting that the top end of town can have the arrogance to get away with the scams, deceit and lies.

CozzaD noone gives a shit about conflict of interest and profiteering on this board mate.

So you don't have the best interests of the sport at heart? heck, you're a gem.

 

[andrewb]

I don’t know what’s more shameful, the actual potential criminality behind the “ASADA” matter (Conflict of Interest or otherwise), or the fact that people will just “bend over and take it”, in terms of accepting that the top end of town can have the arrogance to get away with the scams, deceit and lies.



So you don't have the best interests of the sport at heart? heck, you're a gem.

Sorry.. was being facetious

 

[CozzaD]

Sorry.. was being facetious

Cool.

 

[morgoth]

So cozza is a stock broker hence having time in his hands in this shit market

 

[Monkey King]

I'm probably the most vocal Hawthorn poster here, and I'm a militant Atheist who has absolutely no care for which sky fairy you or anyone else wants to believe in.

As a Christian I find that (sky fairy) very offensive and not necessary to the conversation.

We're a secular society. You call it God. Muslims, Allah. Echols, the Sky Fairy. Reminds me of this actually ...

 

[Satan]

I'm interested in hearing about conflicts of interest.

Spotless catering was headed by Ron evans ,who was on .the afl board as chairman By sheer coincidence (echols one for the book) Spotless got catering rights for afl games.(as a good executive he would not have sat in the afl meetings about catering rights)
Ron is David evans father.

 

[SunshineBoy]

What 'deal'?

So you think it was pure coincidence? Evans was just there strictly on business.

The fact it was injected in bombers players a few months later was pure coincidence and he had no idea about it?

Right. Of all the peptides. Of all the companies in that space. Of all the investment houses. Amazing coincidence.

Along a string of many..... Echols where are you

 

[SunshineBoy]

Never fear. Note the date of the article. Note Robinson and Dank went from Geel to Ess, presumably on Thompson's advice.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...pson-gary-ablett/story-e6frf9jf-1225968538524

WARWICK GREEN HERALD SUN DECEMBER 10, 2010 12:00AM

GARY Ablett has broken his silence on his strained relationship with former Geelong coach Mark Thompson, revealing that the pair had not had a meaningful conversation since April.

In a forthright interview, Ablett said:

THOMPSON was "a very controlling person" who wanted to oversee other parts of the football club, such as contract negotiations and the medical department.

THOMPSON was being "hypocritical" and deflecting attention from his own departure from Geelong by continuing to draw Ablett into media discussions.

the highlighted has been confirmed by one of the parties involved.

 

[2loose]

So Vlad had a bet with a 16 yo . . . Jimmy no like Vlad ... so this is payback time . . very nasty stuff from a paid dirtman and his sponsor!

 

[CozzaD]

Right, so his provisional appointment to Crown does not disturb you?

 

[FuManchu]

Right, so his provisional appointment to Crown does not disturb you?

Is Crown fielding a team in the AFL?

 

[Satan]

His playing career ended after a season with Hawthorn in 1988?

Doesn't seem too drastic

But he got to do the junket with hawthorn to play in the states that year.

 

[Satan]

Is Crown fielding a team in the AFL?

There are probably a few mahogony members who play afl

 

[FuManchu]

There are probably a few mahogony members who play afl

I don't think Crown are going to bribe players to throw games. Does anyone?

 

[Satan]

I don't think Crown are going to bribe players to throw games. Does anyone?

Not crown but others who may want inside info . Dont forget maxwell amd shaw got caught giving inside info to family members

 

[CozzaD]

Right, so his provisional appointment to Crown does not disturb you?

Part of my research found the links to dodgy property deals (in both NSW and Vic, and both linked to the ALP), potential betting irregularities and the “still to be written up nicely for public presentation” bit about Evans and Partners possible investment in Pharmaceuticals (which is bloody hard to work out and write in a simplified fashion).

Armstrong Creek and one of the betting angles are linked by one man, an ex-ACT Assembly rep now living in Victoria. He has worked in both Govt and for property developers, but knows both ‘jobs’ well.

The key players behind ASADA, Evans, Thompson and Co…….well to solve ASADA, you need to dig further. What they're involved with, who they know. "Follow the money", I was advised when starting this.

The commercial media have been lazy on this, hence why we researched it ourselves.

A fiasco like this does not take close to two years to resolve, if there’s something to hide, for some very serious players.

 

[FuManchu]

Not crown but others who may want inside info . Dont forget maxwell amd shaw got caught giving inside info to family members

But that risk is anywhere. Not just in the confines of a casino. At least in a casino, there is footage of whom is associating with whom

 

[Keys]

Right, so his provisional appointment to Crown does not disturb you?

Because he put money on a horse 27 years ago?

No

 

[FuManchu]

Because he put money on a horse 27 years ago?

No

Imagine if he tried to ride one now!!

 

[Go_Blues!]

Just wiped a bunch of stuff that we thought went over the top.

If CozzaD has info on corruption he should talk to a journalist.

hmmmm........that is an amazing statement. If he has information on corruption he should talk to the police!!!

 

[FuManchu]

Part of my research found the links to dodgy property deals (in both NSW and Vic, and both linked to the ALP), potential betting irregularities and the “still to be written up nicely for public presentation” bit about Evans and Partners possible investment in Pharmaceuticals (which is bloody hard to work out and write in a simplified fashion).

Armstrong Creek and one of the betting angles are linked by one man, an ex-ACT Assembly rep now living in Victoria. He has worked in both Govt and for property developers, but knows both ‘jobs’ well.

The key players behind ASADA, Evans, Thompson and Co…….well to solve ASADA, you need to dig further. What they're involved with, who they know. "Follow the money", I was advised when starting this.

The commercial media have been lazy on this, hence why we researched it ourselves.

A fiasco like this does not take close to two years to resolve, if there’s something to hide, for some very serious players.

And this resulted in drug use at Essendon how?

 

[Go_Blues!]

its too complex - this means a pharma company that Evans & co didn't invest in, had EFC via Dank running an illegal drug trial, which Dank tanked because he was on the take from another drug company

much more likely situation was any "trial" was Danks own (with whatever degree of EFC direct knowledge)

Totally agree.......My post was speculation and based on nothing but a random thought. What is even less likely, because this really would be a conspiracy, is that Essendon agreed to run an AOD trial for the drug company, that Essendon believed (apparently correctly) that AOD was not banned, and to inflate the price of the drug company, used some substances TB4 that they knew would artificially provide results that they wanted to improve their profit from investing. Everything came crashing down when ACC and ASADA got involved and they all backed out of the plan. Obviously a crazy theory and one that I am certain is not true but since this thread has turned into "dark matter" I thought I would post it anyway!!

 

[CozzaD]

Totally agree.......My post was speculation and based on nothing but a random thought. What is even less likely, because this really would be a conspiracy, is that Essendon agreed to run an AOD trial for the drug company, that Essendon believed (apparently correctly) that AOD was not banned, and to inflate the price of the drug company, used some substances TB4 that they knew would artificially provide results that they wanted to improve their profit from investing. Everything came crashing down when ACC and ASADA got involved and they all backed out of the plan. Obviously a crazy theory and one that I am certain is not true but since this thread has turned into "dark matter" I thought I would post it anyway!!

Not Essendon per se, "Evans and Partners" is most likely the right company that was investing in the pharmaceuticals. Follow the money!

 

[NikkiNoo]

Not Essendon per se, "Evans and Partners" is most likely the right company that was investing in the pharmaceuticals. Follow the money!

Which is only linked to ONE of the drugs in use apparently at Essendon, only one. The rest of the drugs were sourced from other companies/OS. Most of the money went on testing and the other drugs. So if you follow the majority of the money, I suggest it leads elsewhere - like to Danks pocket and to OS.