Matthew Panos

[ROYAL EAGLE]

Been seeing Lach and Chops saying you need a key foward.

I think this a guy you should look at targeting he is having a awesome championships looks all class.

He is a lovely mark and has a beautiful kicking action, as evidenced by his 4 goal haul in the wet against Vic country.

He is the second best key foward available in this draft and is a dead set certainty for a top 10 now.

And I think he is better kick on goal than Butcher.

 

[Ysaye]

Been seeing Lach and Chops saying you need a key foward.

I think this a guy you should look at targeting he is having a awesome championships looks all class.

He is a lovely mark and has a beautiful kicking action, as evidenced by his 4 goal haul in the wet against Vic country.

He is the second best key foward available in this draft and is a dead set certainty for a top 10 now.

And I think he is better kick on goal than Butcher.

I agree with you that he is likely to be the second best KP forward.

Not sure that he is worth taking over a Morabito/Duncan, but maybe we have to.

The burning question is how likely is he going to make it to a top grade KP vs Morabito/Duncan becoming top grade midfielders?

(It is also frustrating that in hindsight he was available last year, but that is hindsight for you....)

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

I agree with you that he is likely to be the second best KP forward.

Not sure that he is worth taking over a Morabito/Duncan, but maybe we have to.

The burning question is how likely is he going to make it to a top grade KP vs Morabito/Duncan becoming top grade midfielders?

(It is also frustrating that in hindsight he was available last year, but that is hindsight for you....)

The recruiters I spoke to yesterday spoke very highly of him that was before his star performance today in the wet.

I would rate Morabito higher than him but Mitchell Duncan, Jack Trengove and him and probaly Koby Stevens maybe on par.

Hard to quantify Mitch Duncan seems to play best at half foward, more than mid.

 

[Chops_a_must]

Been seeing Lach and Chops saying you need a key foward.

We need a key back or 5. Another top midfielder or so... and then we can line up our forward line like it should be.

 

[Ysaye]

The recruiters I spoke to yesterday spoke very highly of him that was before his star performance today in the wet.

I would rate Morabito higher than him but Mitchell Duncan, Jack Trengove and him and probaly Koby Stevens maybe on par.

Hard to quantify Mitch Duncan seems to play best at half foward, more than mid.

I would agree on that assessment as well. I am starting to think something like:

Scully
Butcher
Lucas
Morabito
Panos

Could make up the top 5.

 

[pinkus maximus]

So he's a Sth Australian key forward tipped to go top 5 this year, he was eligible to be drafted last year but was over looked and he has the initials M.P?

where have I heard that before?

 

[DizzyHB]

So he's a Sth Australian key forward tipped to go top 5 this year, he was eligible to be drafted last year but was over looked and he has the initials M.P?

where have I heard that before?

That's enough for me.

 

[silverscope]

So he's a Sth Australian key forward tipped to go top 5 this year, he was eligible to be drafted last year but was over looked and he has the initials M.P?

where have I heard that before?

First name Matthew

 

[Tundrawolf]

I would agree on that assessment as well. I am starting to think something like:

Scully
Butcher
Lucas
Morabito
Panos

Could make up the top 5.

I also seeing it going something like this, particularly if West Coast and us are filling out the last couple of positions with Melbourne and Richmond.

I really would like Morabito at Freo though.

Panos has big wraps and I wouldn't be disappointed if we did get him.

 

[Alfonz]

I still think we must use our first pick on the best midfielder, assuming Melbourne take Butcher. We still really need to address our midfield and try to find someone with genuine skill & ball winning ability, preferably with a fair bit of pace.

 

[Notorious_29]

I still think we must use our first pick on the best midfielder, assuming Melbourne take Butcher. We still really need to address our midfield and try to find someone with genuine skill & ball winning ability, preferably with a fair bit of pace.

agreed, a genuine midfielder please.

 

[theGav56]

We need a key back or 5. Another top midfielder or so... and then we can line up our forward line like it should be.

Can't see the value in a KP Backman in the top five selections. And if they were selected top 5 you'd think they had the potential to go forward.

 

[Chops_a_must]

Can't see the value in a KP Backman in the top five selections. And if they were selected top 5 you'd think they had the potential to go forward.

Wasn't saying we do. Just correcting my position.

If we were to go for a KP as our first pick, they should be able to play both ends IMO. But it's 50/50 for mine.

 

[Jonny27]

Ive seen him play a few times for U18s Norwood and he is a standout. They kick long to him at half-forward on most occasions and I didnt see him drop a mark all night.

 

[Chris25]

It all depends on how the ladder finishes. If both Melbourne and West Coast finish will less than 16 points, then we could be looking at a later pick. And with Richmond and North both some what of a chance to finish below us, we could be looking at a pick around 6 or 7.

We do need some more midfielders, but I'm not sure if it should be the #1 priority. With the Gold Coast coming in, chances are that quality KPP's wont exactly be readily available in future drafts. If you were looking for a quality KPP in the next few years, now would be the time to go for it.

If Morabito was available, I wouldn't be too disappointed if we drafted him. But Panos sounds very promising, and we're not exactly stocked up on young key forwards.

Assuming we have around 5 picks, I think we could get away with picking a KPP with our first pick and midfielders with the rest.

 

[Alfonz]

Ignoring last year's draft, it might be worth pondering this (possibly incomplete) list over the last few years of players who were sort of considered key forwards at draft time.

5 Western Bulldogs Jarrad Grant
8 Brisbane Lachlan Henderson
15 North Melbourne Robert Tarrant
20 West Coast Tony Notte

2 Essendon Scott Gumbleton (injured)
3 North Melbourne Lachlan Hansen (playing defence)
6 Hawthorn Mitchell Thorp (dud)
8 Collingwood Ben Reid (dud)
13 Richmond Jack Riewoldt (borderline OK selection)
14 Adelaide James Sellar (dud)
16 West Coast Mitchell Brown (looks OK)
32 Adelaide Kurt Tippett (good pick)
41 Geelong Tom Hawkins (questionable considering he was rated top 10 without F/S)
71 Port Adelaide Justin Westhoff (good pick)
77 Fremantle Calib Mourish (dud)

4 Carlton Joshua Kennedy (might be OK, but want more for #4)
6 Hawthorn Beau Dowler (dud)
7 Hawthorn Paddy Ryder (playing ruck)
9 Brisbane Mitchell Clark (playing ruck)
24 Richmond Cleve Hughes (dud)
37 Collingwood John Anthony (OK pick)
39 Essendon Jay Neagle (questionable)

2 Hawthorn Jarryd Roughead (good pick)
5 Hawthorn Lance Franklin (good pick)
23 Collingwood Sean Rusling (injured)
39 Collingwood Travis Cloke (OK pick)

12 Fremantle Ryan Murphy (dud)
14 Adelaide Fergus Watts (dud)
24 North Melbourne Chad Jones (dud)
27 Fremantle Adam Campbell (dud)



I realise there are plenty of flaws ... KPP take longer to develop, maybe I should go back further in time, midfielders are more common, you can strike out on other players etc, ... but to me it still illustrates that if we want the best chance of maximum return for a pick around the 5-7 mark, then a key forward might not be the answer judging by recent history.

The only players recently worthy of a top 5 pick have been Roughead, Franklin and Ryder ... the question is do we see anyone in their league in terms of junior performance and potential?

A prime midfielder should still be our priority in my opinion, especially considering it is still a MAJOR deficiency in our team. But we still have to replenish key position stocks somehow, I can understand those thinking we should make that our priority ... but recent drafts show it will be hard work. I'd rather take a chance on KPPs with pick 20-40.

 

[Chris25]

Of those KPP's you listed, the only good ones after the second round are Tippett, Westhoff and Anthony (ignoring the F/S rule selections).

So you might get a better chance of success drafting a midfielder in the first round, but the chances of drafting a quality midfielder later in the draft are much higher than that of a quality KPP.

 

[SupersonicDocker]

We should take the best player available...Stephen Hill is a good reminder of that attitude...

Morabito seems to be getting some pretty good wraps... The next adam goodes i have read.

I would be pretty suprised if we finished higher than the eagles. I am expecting us to be 15th/14th...

 

[Alfonz]

Of those KPP's you listed, the only good ones after the second round are Tippett, Westhoff and Anthony (ignoring the F/S rule selections).

So you might get a better chance of success drafting a midfielder in the first round, but the chances of drafting a quality midfielder later in the draft are much higher than that of a quality KPP.

Yes, this is true and makes it hard to know what we should do, but the first pick is there to try and get a genuine gamebreaker, and I think we should give ourselves the best chance possible. If our midfield was OK then sure, take a KPP, but our midfield is still very shallow considering the impending departures of Hase and Headland.

 

[shiny_on_top]

Just had a look at the Youtube videos of this kid. Quite suprised how many there were TBH. Looks very lively. Good pair of hands and boy does he kick them from all over the place. Very reliable and accurate shot on goal.

Last year wanted Rich or Naita all year but am absolutely stoked with what Hilly has done so far and could be. So this year I am not going to reealy set my heart on someone, just be more than happy with what the recruiters think will be the best player and if that is Panos, then I am on the bandwagon

 

[Sman-21]

history shows u can win finals with crap forward lines as long as you have a good midfield and backline.

So we need to get best mid available with first pick.
Then look to get kpp both forwards an backs.
then back to midfielders.

Hard to find good disposers who u can count on to get 20+ possesions every week so need to pick them up 1st, will still be plenty of avg mids around later in draft to help midfield stocks.

 

[Scham]

We should take the best player available...Stephen Hill is a good reminder of that attitude...

Morabito seems to be getting some pretty good wraps... The next adam goodes i have read.

I would be pretty suprised if we finished higher than the eagles. I am expecting us to be 15th/14th...

Are you kidding? The Egirls are the best tankers around! They want 2 picks in the first 4, and seriously with that incentive why wouldn't you tank?

 

[macca69]

Remember that Panos was overlooked in the draft last year and these types very rarely go top 5 the following year. Rhys Palmer obviously came close a couple of years ago, and he absolutely torched the 18s carnival and played League footy all year iirc. Apart from Rhys I can't think of anyone else who's been overlooked in the draft one year then gone top 10 the next since they changed the rules so you could pick as many 17 year olds as you liked.

 

[pinkus maximus]

good to have you on board Macca

 

[ImperialPurple]

Remember that Panos was overlooked in the draft last year and these types very rarely go top 5 the following year. Rhys Palmer obviously came close a couple of years ago, and he absolutely torched the 18s carnival and played League footy all year iirc. Apart from Rhys I can't think of anyone else who's been overlooked in the draft one year then gone top 10 the next since they changed the rules so you could pick as many 17 year olds as you liked.

I knew you were different from the others... nice to see that me liking you has been vindicated.