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GreekLunatic said:
i would have thought tim paine's keeping is better than both wade and haddin
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No doubt about that, he comfortably is (although he hasn't been faultless this season either). Paine just needs to put some runs on the board in the Shield and I have no doubt he won't be too far away from the selectors thoughts.
 
tomsimpkin31 said:
I am not talking about Wade's 'regulation dismissal's' that he's missed. Of course they were poor, I'm not denying that. Can you give an example of Wade's unwillingness to 'get the one-percenters right'?

I'm not blinded by hatred to Haddin. I think he's been a very good player for Australia over the years, I've even suggested he be picked as Hussey's replacement. But I fail to see the logic in taking someone out for their ordinary glovework, and bringing in an ordinary gloveman.
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I'm with you on this. Healy has actually 'gilded the lily' to give the story some controversy.

I find it amusing he believes "they could afford to play a wicketkeeper whose batting was his stronger suit, but not anymore" i.e. Gilchrist, because the team included Warne & McGrath & more chances were created, but it's not okay now. He can't have it both ways. Either you want your keeper to be a keeper first & batsman second, or you want a wicket-keeper/batsman.

I would be interested to know what Healy thinks of Australia's outfielding over the last couple of years, which has seen fieldsmen regularly sending in crap returns to the keeper, making it nigh on impossible to glove the thing cleanly, or even make it to the right position to catch the thing. One benefit both Healy & Gilchrist enjoyed was having a team around them who were so clean in the field, making the keeper's job a lot easier. A legacy of the hard work Bob Simpson had put in to improve our overall fielding.

All this article does is confirm the boy's club that existed for so long in the Australian team. Memo to Ian Healy. You are no longer part of it, so you can no longer have a say on who is acceptable to the boy's club.
 

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So he talks about having the best keeper then mentions Haddin?

Haddin was never close to the best keeper in the country, his ordinary glovework was tolerated because he could average 35+ with the bat, Healy himself obviously agreed that his keeping wasn't up scratch because he launched a broadside at Haddin at the start of last summer.

Haddin then kept very poorly vs india not missing just difficult chances but failing to take several straight forward chances.
 
Kram81 said:
Hartley should at least have been considered at some stage, it's not like he bats like Chris Read ffs.
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This.

He regularly has bailed out Queensland from 4/50 and the like, Shield and ODD's, going on to make very handy scores indeed.
 
More tim paine mentions. WHYYYYYY?
I agree with the hartley talk, though.
Unlike paine, he's shown he can actually score a century. And unlike haddin, he actually shows commitment in tough situations with the bat. Also a better keeper than haddin. Should be the backup keeper in india for sure.
 
carnthemlions said:
More tim paine mentions. WHYYYYYY?
I agree with the hartley talk, though.
Unlike paine, he's shown he can actually score a century. And unlike haddin, he actually shows commitment in tough situations with the bat. Also a better keeper than haddin. Should be the backup keeper in india for sure.
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No one has suggested Paine today? It was said that he is a better gloveman than Haddin and Wade, I agreed with that and said that if he puts runs on the board, he will be close to the selectors thoughts.

Agree re Hartley.
 
carnthemlions said:
More tim paine mentions. WHYYYYYY?
I agree with the hartley talk, though.
Unlike paine, he's shown he can actually score a century. And unlike haddin, he actually shows commitment in tough situations with the bat. Also a better keeper than haddin. Should be the backup keeper in india for sure.
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Because Paine can keep and while he may not have scored a century in a while, he is incredibly consistent with his batting.. he rarely fails.
 
IanG said:
Interesting that Haddin kept fairly badly last night yet no mention from Healy.
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He did take a great catch, no better then he was last summer despite what the commentators were saying, some who clearly had an agenda of wanting there mate to remain in the side.
 

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I thought Haddins keeping last night was poor though it didn't seem to get a mention until he took a really good catch then the channel 9 commentators were talking about how Wade should feel the pressure now? His keeping to the spinners was terrible so I'm not sure why he should feel pressure. His 10 singles off 13 balls at the death was poor form also.
 
bird_man said:
I thought Haddins keeping last night was poor though it didn't seem to get a mention until he took a really good catch then the channel 9 commentators were talking about how Wade should feel the pressure now? His keeping to the spinners was terrible so I'm not sure why he should feel pressure. His 10 singles off 13 balls at the death was poor form also.
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Yet they managed to praise him for doing a good job with the bat
 
mediumsizered said:
All this article does is confirm the boy's club that existed for so long in the Australian team. Memo to Ian Healy. You are no longer part of it, so you can no longer have a say on who is acceptable to the boy's club.
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So posters on BigFooty can have an opinion, no matter how uneducated, on the Australian wicketkeepers, but a bloke who claimed over 400 dismissals for Australia with the gloves is not entiled to his opinion?

Gotcha :rolleyes:
 
Ian Healy may have been a great keeper in his time but he is a genuine muppet now. Nice of him to point out how poor Wade is while trying to push for Haddin to be reinstated to the test side. He seems to forget Haddin is equally as poor against spin and only takes those speccy style catches due to his poor footwork behind the stumps.
 
Queenslander prefers Queenslander.

One of Australia's great cultural consistencies.

Has anyone got that old Jeff Thompson/"Mitchell Johnson is the second coming of Christ" article handy?
 
Hard_to_Beat said:
Queenslander prefers Queenslander.

One of Australia's great cultural consistencies.

Has anyone got that old Jeff Thompson/"Mitchell Johnson is the second coming of Christ" article handy?
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Healy wants Haddin back in the side... Didn't hear him once mention Hartley.
 

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Hard_to_Beat said:
Queenslander prefers Queenslander.

One of Australia's great cultural consistencies.

Has anyone got that old Jeff Thompson/"Mitchell Johnson is the second coming of Christ" article handy?
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Healy is from Queensland and Haddin from NSW. There have been lots of people pumping up Mitchell Johnson over the years.

Probably also worth mentioning Haddin made his list A debut in 1997 while Healy retired in 1999. Their career barely overlapped and they never played together, so could somebody provide actual evidence that Healy is protecting the "boys club"?
 

Healy said Australian selectors should consider taking Haddin as a second keeper on the Ashes tour.
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So Healy rates Hartley as the best pure keeper in the country but doesn't even suggest he should be back up keeper to Wade on the Ashes tour.
 
Anyone who has watch Shield cricket over the last few years would know that he is the best pure gloveman, hardly bias
 
Adelaide Hawk said:
So posters on BigFooty can have an opinion, no matter how uneducated, on the Australian wicketkeepers, but a bloke who claimed over 400 dismissals for Australia with the gloves is not entiled to his opinion?

Gotcha :rolleyes:
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That's exactly what I was thinking.

Healy is definitely entitled to have an opinion guys. We don't have to agree.. but the man does know what he's talking about!
 

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