Message to AFGM

[Cleric]

He will be right on one point, we will get stuff all for him and there will be some upset people who have blind faith in the club.

 

[jenny61_99]

In reality, that to is a guess.

Well no. Clearly he was wrong. Otherwise Kurt would be sitting on the gold coast in a GC guernsey saying how happy he was to be truly home.

 

[Wood_Duck]

Well no. Clearly he was wrong. Otherwise Kurt would be sitting on the gold coast in a GC guernsey saying how happy he was to be truly home.

You know for a fact that Kurt and GC didn't walk away from a prior contract?

 

[ftmch]

You know for a fact that Kurt and GC didn't walk away from a prior contract?

The main point of amusement is not whether or not said contract ever existed, but the assuredness AFGM had that it would be the only possible outcome.

Seems to me if he had genuine knowledge of the actual "agreement" (if it actually existed), he'd also recognize the potential for either party to be readily break it (which is exactly how it played out), and not be so **** sure as to the finality of that scenario.

 

[jenny61_99]

You know for a fact that Kurt and GC didn't walk away from a prior contract?

Nope. But surely his exceptional inside mail would have told him that, and he would have quickly reported it in here.

 

[Niximus]

Tho whole loophole fiasco centred on the fact that GC and GWS's uncontracted signings (such as Bock and Davis) could guarantee the club they would end up at. It allowed GC and GWS to sign playes in the last year of their contract.

Recently, with the introduction of free agency, many more players were also able to guarantee getting to the club that they wanted. The 'loophole' then had much wider effects (and would last longer than the three years that the expansion teams had concessions).

At no time could Kurt Tippett guarantee that he could go to the Suns (or any team for that matter). We had informally agreed to help him get home but legally that means bugger all, and to write that arrangement into a binding contract would break AFL rules and be invalid anyway.

At best for AFGM, Kurt and GC had agreed to an 'in principle' deal, that he would ask to be traded there at the end of this season. I'm sure if AFGM had said that had happened, very few would have doubted it.

However, he didn't claim that, he claimed that Kurt had signed a contract with GCS.

Even if we imagine for a moment, that somehow he was able to exploit this loophole, and had signed a contract. It still would have been a normal AFL contract e.g. detailing the duration of the contract, salary etc. If we were suddenly offering more, he wouldn't be able to just walk away from it any more than any of our currently contracted players can just abandon their contracts if someone offers more. He would have already been a contracted GCS player for season 2013 (and probably 2014 and 2015 too).

The core of AFGM's theory was that KT had signed a binding contract with the GCS at the end of the 2011 season. Clearly, that is wrong.

Even if the Sydney deal falls through and he does end up at GCS, there was no contract in 2011. AFGM wouldn't be half-right by predicting something that 90% of the football world expected anyway..KT to GCS.

TLDR - The 'loophole' was available to GCS and GWS uncontracted player concessions, and then to free agents......Kurt Tippettis neither of these and so no contract was signed 12 months early.

 

[Wood_Duck]

The main point of amusement is not whether or not said contract ever existed, but the assuredness AFGM had that it would be the only possible outcome.

Seems to me if he had genuine knowledge of the actual "agreement" (if it actually existed), he'd also recognize the potential for either party to be readily break it (which is exactly how it played out), and not be so **** sure as to the finality of that scenario.

No argument from me. Just pointing out that despite certain peoples misunderstanding, we cannot prove for sure that he was wrong or making shit up.

 

[Jetwa5h]

To me it looks like AFGM is still pushing his agenda using a fake rucci Twitter account which also appears to be really annoying the real rucci

 

[Elder van Berlo]

You know for a fact that Kurt and GC didn't walk away from a prior contract?

I know for a fact that AFGM was claiming that Kurt had a contract that he couldn't walk away from because it was binding.

That is how we know he was wrong/making things up. Because obviously Kurt did not have a binding contract with Gold Coast. Nobody was ever arguing that there was no understanding, or agreement, between Kurt and Gold Coast, or even Kurt and the Crows. We were just saying that if it existed (which we will probably never know) it couldn't possibly be binding because it would be unenforceable both by AFL rules and by the law of contracts more broadly.

And we were right and AFGM was wrong, because obviously, either:
1. There was no contract; or
2. It wasn't binding.

 

[Punchy Bassett]

So can we make threads about certain other posters around here who were adamant this wasn't a decision based on money?

 

[Vader]

So can we make threads about certain other posters around here who were adamant this wasn't a decision based on money?

Fair point. We're not supposed to have threads aimed at specific users.

Thread closed.