Michael Christian is having a shocking run, he and the AFL need to do better

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Yes I said chose because he chose to bump instead of tackle and got Macrae high, he wears the consequences.

"Obviously not enough force"? Subjective given there's no threshold for suffering a concussion, Jack Viney copped a flying knee straight to the face a couple of weeks ago and bounced right back up.

I find it staggering that this case outrages you so much seeing as they are pretty common and with the same result.
What’s he meant to do?
Long had no chance of pulling out.
The only option is to hit McRae with his open chest, which would stuff Long right up.

Plus medium impact? Spare me.

Cotchin got off for a head high hit and actually injured Shiel.
I don’t actually think Cotchin should’ve been suspended necessarily but if you line these two incidents up it is particularly disgraceful.
 

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What’s he meant to do?
Long had no chance of pulling out.
The only option is to hit McRae with his open chest, which would stuff Long right up.

Plus medium impact? Spare me.

Cotchin got off for a head high hit and actually injured Shiel.
I don’t actually think Cotchin should’ve been suspended necessarily but if you line these two incidents up it is particularly disgraceful.
Choose not to bump in the first place, it's that simple.

Why do you still not understand the rule? If you choose to bump and hit a player in the head, you're in trouble. Don't like it? Try expressing your displeasure to the many players suffering the long term effects of concussion from headaches to memory loss.

That's not to say Christian is off the hook. Of course, if it was someone like Shaun Burgoyne or your boy Dangerfield, no doubt little Mike would make a special exception.
 

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Choose not to bump in the first place, it's that simple.

Why do you still not understand the rule? If you choose to bump and hit a player in the head, you're in trouble. Don't like it? Try expressing your displeasure to the many players suffering the long term effects of concussion from headaches to memory loss.

That's not to say Christian is off the hook. Of course, if it was someone like Shaun Burgoyne or your boy Dangerfield, no doubt little Mike would make a special exception.
From a broad perspective, I agree with you. He chose to bump when he didn't need to. By the AFL's criteria though, I don't see how this gets classified as medium impact. It is the exact same as the Marlion Pickett bump on Heeney. Christian stated himself that it was graded as low impact then because Heeney was fine and got up straight away.
 

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Choose not to bump in the first place, it's that simple.

Why do you still not understand the rule? If you choose to bump and hit a player in the head, you're in trouble. Don't like it? Try expressing your displeasure to the many players suffering the long term effects of concussion from headaches to memory loss.

That's not to say Christian is off the hook. Of course, if it was someone like Shaun Burgoyne or your boy Dangerfield, no doubt little Mike would make a special exception.
You’re completely clueless with evidence being you think danger would get off.
It was not really a choice, it’s just a collision at high speed so he did very well to slow down quickly and not injure him.

You know Danger has been suspended for a tackle before costing him a chance at a Brownlow? So now I know you’re definitely a nuffy.

If you think that’s harsh by me to you than you probably shouldn’t make up rubbish.
 
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From a broad perspective, I agree with you. He chose to bump when he didn't need to. By the AFL's criteria though, I don't see how this gets classified as medium impact. It is the exact same as the Marlion Pickett bump on Heeney. Christian stated himself that it was graded as low impact then because Heeney was fine and got up straight away.
Impact is never going to be assessed consistently. Us bulldogs fans realized this with crozier earlier in the year.

It was not really a choice, it’s just a collision at high speed so he did very well to slow down quickly and not injure him.
Lol, are you really this dense?

He could've chosen not to start a high speed charge toward a player.
He could've chosen to tackle.
Alas, he very clearly had the intention to bump macrae when he began charging towards him, at which point, he risks suspension upon making head high contact. I know this might come as a shock to you, but this is indeed a choice he made.

It's not rocket science. Just because you're used to Dangerfield getting away with it doesn't mean other players can.
 
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What’s he meant to do?
Long had no chance of pulling out.
The only option is to hit McRae with his open chest, which would stuff Long right up.

Plus medium impact? Spare me.

Cotchin got off for a head high hit and actually injured Shiel.
I don’t actually think Cotchin should’ve been suspended necessarily but if you line these two incidents up it is particularly disgraceful.
He's meant to tackle, it's not a difficult question.

You can argue the medium impact but you run that gauntlet when you bump and get a player high rather than tackle.
 

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So Long gets sighted and suspended but nothing comes of the Zak Butters headbutt Friday night? Is this because the game commentators decided Long should get a suspension and nothing become of butters? That’s what they said in both games’ coverage
 

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From a broad perspective, I agree with you. He chose to bump when he didn't need to. By the AFL's criteria though, I don't see how this gets classified as medium impact. It is the exact same as the Marlion Pickett bump on Heeney. Christian stated himself that it was graded as low impact then because Heeney was fine and got up straight away.
The whole logic around impact went out the window when Shiel became the only player ever to cop a high impact rating from a bump that didn't cause an injury.
 

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Will be hard to overturn, they'll justify the medium impact because it "had the potential for further harm" or some rubbish like that. Crozier similarly was reported earlier this year with medium impact when the player was fine like Macrae.

It's just typically inconsistent and they choose to apply what they want, when they want, rather than when they should.
Congratulations on being a supporter of the bloke who got bumped and not acting like a ******* moron about it. 👍
Mean that too, nothing more embarassing than when a side loses and their nuffy supporters flood the board begging for suspensions
 

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What’s he meant to do?
Long had no chance of pulling out.
The only option is to hit McRae with his open chest, which would stuff Long right up.

Plus medium impact? Spare me.

Cotchin got off for a head high hit and actually injured Shiel.
I don’t actually think Cotchin should’ve been suspended necessarily but if you line these two incidents up it is particularly disgraceful.
Exactly my thoughts. If Long opens up to tackle, Macrae just ploughs through him... why on Earth would Long want that? Maybe they should be carrying witches hats instead, if the only option is to let players run free.
 

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Ah here come the morons who've never played sport before
Yeah he should have jumped out of his way, you never wanna hurt someone ever 😥
You calling others morons is a pot meet kettle moment.

Long had the option to tackle but chose to bump, he got Macrae high. The impact can be argued but this is not some unique situation, these incidents happen regularly.
 

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This is the classic bumping and catching the guy high.
You can't do it, and if the suspension doesn't get upheld it's a joke.
Dude not appearing to be hurt by it is just luck of the draw.
If he doesn't get suspended the AFL is condoning high hits.
 

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This is the classic bumping and catching the guy high.
You can't do it, and if the suspension doesn't get upheld it's a joke.
Dude not appearing to be hurt by it is just luck of the draw.
If he doesn't get suspended the AFL is condoning high hits.
The AFL has already condoned high hits with the likes of Fyfe, Cotchin and Ablett getting off head high striking charges.

Different rules for star players that are Brownlow chances though, Long isn't in that category so is seen as expendable and someone they can make an example of.
 

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Reckon it’s a poor decision. Long was also protecting himself in the split second he had IMHO. If Long doesn’t turn Macrae ploughed through him.
 

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Reckon it’s a poor decision. Long was also protecting himself in the split second he had IMHO. If Long doesn’t turn Macrae ploughed through him.
Can see both sides of the argument here.

Force of impact was lineball... Think Long may be lucky McRae is one TOUGH customer, many others would have been rolling on the turf and pretty much sentenced Long


If it was me, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt, after all it is finals just give the players that extra 10% leeway...


Let him play I say
 

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This is the classic bumping and catching the guy high.
You can't do it, and if the suspension doesn't get upheld it's a joke.
Dude not appearing to be hurt by it is just luck of the draw.
If he doesn't get suspended the AFL is condoning high hits.
Where have you been for the past 3-4 years??

Of course should go based in what you're saying - but thr issue is that what you're saying isn't actually the way the AFL have ever handled these things!
 

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So Long misses a final because it could've been a potential injury? A fanciful case by the AFL
Ridiculous how they get to randomly use ‘potential’
A lot more players should’ve been rubbed out in the past if you want to go down that line.
He wasn’t injured as Long did his best to pull up quickly and because of that was not injured.
If he had no care he would’ve knocked him out.
 

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