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Sep 27, 2008
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Ridiculous how they get to randomly use ‘potential’
A lot more players should’ve been rubbed out in the past if you want to go down that line.
He wasn’t injured as Long did his best to pull up quickly and because of that was not injured.
If he had no care he would’ve knocked him out.

The St Kilda defence made that argument, that Long's actions actually helped to prevent an injury rather than cause an injury.

That was backed up by the medical report which said that Macrae was able to stay on the field and play out the game with no concussion test required.

I guess that argument had too much common sense and factual evidence for the clowns at the AFL so they just ignored it and stuck with the 1 week ban.

It would be bad enough if it was banning Long for a H&A game but it's banning him from a knockout semi final based on a bunch of what ifs and speculation.

Absolute joke.
 
May 29, 2013
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Crazy to think you can now be penalised cause a bunch of deluded idiots can sit in a room and imagine that you could have hurt someone.

If that's the precedent they want to set then there should be at least 2 dozen cases referred to the MRO each week.

Unfortunately its one rule for some and another rule for others

The MRO is a like two bullet trains colliding head on ........ its a ginormous horrific mangled mess
 
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AFL got exactly what it wanted from the Tribunal. The ability to grade any hit any way they want.

Well played Gil and Hocking.

It's like the umpiring these days where the same incident can result in a different decision depending on how the umpire interprets it.

The AFL like having that ambiguity because it allows them to manipulate results whichever way they want and still be able to justify it.
 
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It's like the umpiring these days where the same incident can result in a different decision depending on how the umpire interprets it.

The AFL like having that ambiguity because it allows them to manipulate results whichever way they want.

Yep. It started under AD and Gil has perfected it.

And weve seen what happens to coaches who call out the bullshit. The umpires and Gil's snivelling attack dog have no issue ignoring their integrity to serve their master.
 
Sep 9, 2016
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Long in or out is irrelevant to the result
If st Kilda is pinning their hopes on him being the saviour they’re kidding themselves 😂

Those bringing up Cotchin in 2017 go watch the incident. He actually is going after and grabs the ball on Shiel. Long lined Macrae off the line and hit his head. It’s a week
The appeal failed and it’s happened. Move on
 

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Why couldn't Long just put a tackle on? Takes more courage than to just wait for someone and try and pick him off with hit.

Cool game knuckles :thumbsu:

Why don't the AFL just outlaw the bump?

Why did Macrae get to his feet immediately and play out the game?

Why didn't the MRO assess the incident as low impact when it was clearly low impact? (see above)

Why are the Media labelling Long a "Maniac"?

Why don't the MRO cite more cases where the "potential for injury" is very real?

Why didn't Heath Shaw get cited for his horrific slide into Butler's legs?

Why did Pickett only get a fine for his hit on Heeney?

Why are AFL Lovechildren protected from obvious suspensions?

Why is Michael Christian still in a job?
 
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Long in or out is irrelevant to the result
If st Kilda is pinning their hopes on him being the saviour they’re kidding themselves 😂

Those bringing up Cotchin in 2017 go watch the incident. He actually is going after and grabs the ball on Shiel. Long lined Macrae off the line and hit his head. It’s a week
The appeal failed and it’s happened. Move on

You wouldn't be posting here if you didn't care about the Long verdict ...... so there is only one person kidding themselves 👆

As for the Cotchin hit well the ball was in Shiel's hands and Captain Lovechild arrived late and lowered his back square into Shiel's head knocking him out of the game

But hey one rule for some and another rule for others
 
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You wouldn't be posting here if you didn't care about the Long verdict ...... so there is only one person kidding themselves 👆

As for the Cotchin hit well the ball was in Shiel's hands and Captain Lovechild arrived late and lowered his back square into Shiel's head knocking him out of the game

But hey one rule for some and another rule for others
Long wouldn’t make a difference to winning or losing chief, He’s a battler. I’m just here to back cotch. The media and posters like you have no clue when it comes to that hit.

if it was steele doing the same thing you would be in the exact same position as me defending him. Move on we won with cotch. Move on from long
Game on Friday may the best team win
 

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Long in or out is irrelevant to the result
If st Kilda is pinning their hopes on him being the saviour they’re kidding themselves 😂

Those bringing up Cotchin in 2017 go watch the incident. He actually is going after and grabs the ball on Shiel. Long lined Macrae off the line and hit his head. It’s a week
The appeal failed and it’s happened. Move on
Explain this one then champ, go on.

 

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Cool game knuckles :thumbsu:

Why don't the AFL just outlaw the bump?

Why did Macrae get to his feet immediately and play out the game?

Why didn't the MRO assess the incident as low impact when it was clearly low impact? (see above)

Why are the Media labelling Long a "Maniac"?

Why don't the MRO cite more cases where the "potential for injury" is very real?

Why didn't Heath Shaw get cited for his horrific slide into Butler's legs?

Why did Pickett only get a fine for his hit on Heeney?

Why are AFL Lovechildren protected from obvious suspensions?

Why is Michael Christian still in a job?

I'm just calling that incident as I saw it. It looked like a cheap shot because it was - and its not the first time for Long. He's a good player but he doesn't know how to use his aggression within the rules.
 
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I'm just calling that incident as I saw it. It looked like a cheap shot because it was - and its not the first time for Long. He's a good player but he doesn't know how to use his aggression within the rules.

Yet plenty of players use aggression outside the rules and get off scot free or at least don't get suspended

You do know that's the issue here ...... the inconsistency of the MRO

There are players that get done for sling tackles and others that don't (Burgoyne twice this year)

There are many examples of players using similar bump force to Long and hitting players flush in the head only to play the next game

The above Pickett example is but one of many .... his hit was graded low impact and Heeney stayed down ..... Long gets medium impact and Macrae is on his feet within seconds

Then there is the Gary Rohan bump below on Lester earlier this year ...... graded as low impact and he had no intention of going for the ball and actually ran through him and of course he plays the following week

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Long ran off the line and chose to bump instead of tackle, got Macrae high with the shoulder to the jaw. Seems pretty straightforward to me.

A couple of inches either way and Macrae gets split open, a fractured jaw, or concussion, and then Long is looking at 3-4 weeks.

As many have said he then tried it again later in the match.

Not begrudging the win in any way but if you play that way you've got to just cop it and move on.
 

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Long ran off the line and chose to bump instead of tackle, got Macrae high with the shoulder to the jaw. Seems pretty straightforward to me.

A couple of inches either way and Macrae gets split open, a fractured jaw, or concussion, and then Long is looking at 3-4 weeks.

As many have said he then tried it again later in the match.

Not begrudging the win in any way but if you play that way you've got to just cop it and move on.


To be fair Long pulled up he could have put Macrae into next week. He also braced and got low in an attempt to soften the impact. All in a split second. We would be furious if the shoe was on the other foot.
 

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