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8-3 at the half way mark of the year.

I can only, and will only judge him on whats in front of us at the moment.

He has improved the side with a good off season at the draft table.
Has continued to prove that he is the best in the business at introducing young talent into the game.
Has steered us through a tough first half draw and has us perfectly placed for an assault on the top 4.

Now I fully realise that this means squat if we dont win the big one but all that we could've asked for at this stage has been delivered.

Now he has the second half of the year to cement our spot at the top end of the ladder and somehow bridge the gap between us and the Cats/Saints.
 
a win against cats or saints before finals is vital, imo...

otherwise, i'm now confident in our ability to beat any other team

i'm hoping the game against the lions is our only game we drop to an inferior team. big ask.. but i'm confident.
 
How is he going to bridge the gap, and its a huge gap between Geelong and St Kilda ( less of a gap) if he sticks to the boundary stuff, hold onto the ball at all costs stuff, the refusal to run thru zones stuff, the dont make any changes even when momentum has swung stuff?

His game plan is great against lessor sides, but the real good teams must relish playing Collingwood, knowing we cant blow them off the park. The amount of effort it takes Collingwood to kick a goal as opposed to what it takes the better running sides is a stark difference. We work hard and they convert so easily when momentum has swung their way. We are labour intensive and the more inputs you need to creat goals, the more chance they have to take the ball from you and the good sides do that against us. They pressure, they corral us, we dither, we refuse to break their lines, holding onto the ball until we get swamped of make the inevitable mistake.

This game plan in its infancy in 2002 was more likely to win a flga back then, it didnt quite make it. 8 years on, its been well and truly analysed by the opposition and they know how to make it work against us. Unless he has something up his sleeve come this sept, then its going to be the same results against the same teams. But Malthouse is not one to wander too far from his MO.

He is conservative by nature and believes in systems systems systems and not much else.
 
You just thread search every malthouse thread and post the sane stuff, we know your feelings ffs
 

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I agree with Grumpy Bum and will write whether we win or lose. Don't like his game plan nor his blaming last weeks loss on the forwards, what about where the damage was done - in the centre.

He can't coach outside the square when was the last time he would play a player out of positiion like Eade did last night? Say put an Anthony on the back line?

Also he plays favourites, why isn't Scotland still playing at colingwood?

His arrogance will lose us a Grand Final if we get there. No plan B.

After 10 years the players we have are all of his choosing or approval. We don't have one game breaker like a Brown, Judd, Ablett. In fact we don't even have a mongrel in the team it seems that any mongrel has been coached out.
 
Maggie5 said:
I agree with Grumpy Bum and will write whether we win or lose. Don't like his game plan nor his blaming last weeks loss on the forwards, what about where the damage was done - in the centre.

He can't coach outside the square when was the last time he would play a player out of positiion like Eade did last night? Say put an Anthony on the back line?

Also he plays favourites, why isn't Scotland still playing at colingwood?

His arrogance will lose us a Grand Final if we get there. No plan B.

After 10 years the players we have are all of his choosing or approval. We don't have one game breaker like a Brown, Judd, Ablett. In fact we don't even have a mongrel in the team it seems that any mongrel has been coached out.
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LOL Scotland?

Took it hard obviously.
Moving Lake to the forward line is not outside the square. Eade does it all the time.
 
Scotland? Because he wanted out, say he stated though he would be obree Lockyer like depth, not even best 25.

What a strange complaint
 
He wanted out because he wasn't getting being selected!!! Wouldn't you?
Whether Eade does it all the time was not the point, the fact that Malhouse never does anything like it was the point I was trying to make. My favourite all time coach is Sheedy, he made ordinary player into good players.
 
Pie eyed said:
Troll account.
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troll account v sycophants haven.

I'd rather die questioning that which needed questioning as opposed to joining the conga line of suckholes who one day will eventually wake up and wonder what the last decade amounted to, with little or no resistance to the acceptance of second best.
 
8 - 3 is a good position to be in

Good Coach with a great game plan.

Top 4 position is ours for the taking
 
Dawson said:
8 - 3 is a good position to be in

Good Coach with a great game plan.

Top 4 position is ours for the taking
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Yeah, that game plan which has been in place since 2002, that's just racking up the flags. Fools Geelong and St Kilda everytime.
 
Dawson said:
I just assume you don't watch much football.

St Kilda use EXACTLY the same game plan as us.

You really need to do a little research before commenting
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St Kilda havent won a flag with it either, and they are better suited to the plan because they have far better disposal and a much better power forward than we have ( when he is fit).

I have watched enough footy to see those very basic facts, they seem to have escaped your sharp eyes tho!!!

It is interesting to note that when the hawks won their flag, they pushed/ harassed geelong out of the corridor, which Geelong had owned for 2 seasons. Geelong had over 60 entries into their forward line predominantly from the boundary, but got comprehensively beaten. Sound familiar? The boundary stuff just wont cut it at the pointy end of the season. Have you researched that?
 
Grumpy Bum said:
Yeah, that game plan which has been in place since 2002, that's just racking up the flags. Fools Geelong and St Kilda everytime.
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Hehe.

Next time we play Saints or Geelong I hope Mick lets the boys take them on head to head, play free flowing footy like we were against Blue/Freo etc, rather then climb back into our shells and chip around the edges.

I think when we come up against the really good sides (i.e. Saints & Cats) we get too defensive and almost seem to concede we can't win the game on our own terms as such. Would like to see them have a crack and open up against one of these sides, just to see if we can match it.

We have clearly improved this year though so I'm not calling for Mick's head.
 

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We cant beat the saints and the cats. Our win loss ratio against them put togather of the last 10 meetings we are 2-8, but that will soon change hopefully. Its disapointing that the two best sides have the wood on us.
 
Pie eyed said:
Nice rant grumpy but a troll's a troll whether they are licking my butt or yours.

You will never die not having questioned everything Collingwood, so you will have that.:D
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I'll die wondering why people are deluded year after year into thinking just because we finish 4th, that its a given we will win the flag the next year, when the next year brings pretty much a repeat of the past. (ie: the game against Geelong)
 
Grumpy Bum said:
Beating them consistantly and beating them while they are both at the top of the ladder, not on some slide into oblivion.
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We have the opportunity to do this again this year.
Your list is getting smaller though, although 2-3 times is probably not the consistency you will need for satisfaction.
I'll be happy to beat each side once this year in the right setting.
WE can work on beating them every game next season though, but then that would not count because they would no longer be on top of the ladder.

Collingwood have to be in the 4, preferably in the 2.

Lets hold you doom saying until we see how the next 11 rounds go. Surely if you are right you'll have plenty of opportunity to repost your opinions on Malty.
 
Pie eyed said:
We have the opportunity to do this again this year.
Your list is getting smaller though, although 2-3 times is probably not the consistency you will need for satisfaction.
I'll be happy to beat each side once this year in the right setting.
WE can work on beating them every game next season though, but then that would not count because they would no longer be on top of the ladder.

Collingwood have to be in the 4, preferably in the 2.

Lets hold you doom saying until we see how the next 11 rounds go. Surely if you are right you'll have plenty of opportunity to repost your opinions on Malty.
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Beating them 2 times in a row would suffice. we are a long ways off that.

Or just in a final would be enough, we are a long ways off that as well based on most recent meetings
 

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Grumpy Bum said:
Beating them 2 times in a row would suffice. we are a long ways off that.

Or just in a final would be enough, we are a long ways off that as well based on most recent meetings
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Only a few rounds until the next chance at the Saints and I rather save a win against Geelong for the finals, but would gladly accept one in the H&A as I guess you would.
 
After a decade a flag is the benchmark to test against. We've been 8-3 before. It's a good platform but only winning the flag counts now.
 
Pie eyed said:
Only a few rounds until the next chance at the Saints and I rather save a win against Geelong for the finals, but would gladly accept one in the H&A as I guess you would.
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But as some got sucked in by the 5 point loss against Geelong in 2007, thinking it was some defacto premiership and then the anomalous flogging in May 2008, and still trying to claim that something that happened 2 years ago, has some relevance now, we need to show that we can beat Geelong by systems and methodolgy, not some fluke off night that they had.

One win against them isn't showing anything, it needs to be a systematic dismantling that we can repeat. Much like Carlton are showing against them at the moment with 2 consecutive wins, they have a methodology currently that geelong are struggling to contain. Where is our methodology that they cant counter?
 
MarkT2 said:
After a decade a flag is the benchmark to test against. We've been 8-3 before. It's a good platform but only winning the flag counts now.
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WE have been 8-3 three times in the last 20 years.

1990 - Premiers
2002 - GF
2006 - fell away badly to miss top four and be knocked out in the elim final.

It is a great position to be in and a big improvement on recent seasons.

People keep waffling on about Hawthorn, Geelong are 4-1 in their last five games with Hawthorn.....which shows that if you are their you can win it.

Geelong are the best side at the moment, the pies are well placed to challenge them.
 
Gratz to Mick Malthouse, seen off all the whingers and nay sayers to lead us to 2nd position after 11 games.

We are simply in a great position, one that very few so called "experts", and even most of our supporters thought we would never be in.

Yes, September is when it will really count, but all you can judge MM on in 2010 is how the side is going, and how many wins are on the board.

It doesn't really matter how you win during the season, just that you do, because ultimately, rounds 1-22 are just qualifiers for the "real stuff".

We are half way to qualifying in second spot, as another 8-3 run will get us second spot, I guarantee you that.

To those who keep whinging about MM still being coach, GET THE **** OVER IT, he is our coach for the next season and a half, and there is nothing anyone can and will do about it, so how about supporting the team and the coaching staff instead of bitching for no reason.

We are in a great position, now for the second half of the season, I wish MM, Eddie and the club all the best, and so should every Collingwood supporter.
 

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