Milking rusted on fans dry - the AFL business Plan

[owen87]

if it was up to me, you could just stay in the wafl

Best send Liam Baker and Shai Bolton back to WA then if you want a Vic only comp.

 

[Farang83150]

Best send Liam Baker and Shai Bolton back to WA then if you want a Vic only comp.

Think Liam may already be all over that

 

[owen87]

Think Liam may already be all over that

Fair enough really, Fremantle have the list profile to rise up the ladder

 

[Colonial]

I’m getting flashbacks to 2014 to 2018 when we had these bullshit VFLer fishbowl threads multiple times weekly.

Still as stupid and self righteous as they were back then.

This is a national comp now.

Your club, especially Richmond, has had enough advantages.

 

[blaisee]

Yeah so true, but only because interstate teams contribute nothing eh m8.

Especially with WA teams , we dont need em to be honest, your population is tiny, and its too far to fly

waste of time

 

[blaisee]

I’m getting flashbacks to 2014 to 2018 when we had these bullshit VFLer fishbowl threads multiple times weekly.

Still as stupid and self righteous as they were back then.

This is a national comp now.

Your club, especially Richmond, has had enough advantages.

you having a larf?

 

[Farang83150]

Especially with WA teams , we dont need em to be honest, your population is tiny, and its too far to fly

waste of time

Yeah so true mate.
#standaloneRFC

 

[blaisee]

Richmond get pumped by GC and suddenly GC shouldn’t exist. Oof, one game into Richmond’s downturn and we’re coming out strong.

Had the game not expanded your club probably doesn’t exist anymore. Or it exists in a semi-professional league where football players have other day jobs.

You get to watch your team in Melbourne 17-odd times a year.

I look forward to reading many such threads from Richmond supporters for the years to come. Bless you.

this is rubbish

The league existed before these franchises where subsidised into perpetuity to ensure they survive

 

[blaisee]

Best send Liam Baker and Shai Bolton back to WA then if you want a Vic only comp.

Players have always come to victoria from other states to play football

Its because Victoria is the home of football.

 

[owen87]

this is rubbish

The league existed before these franchises where subsidised into perpetuity to ensure they survive

1897 VFL season - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Agreed, get rid of all these franchise additions and return to the REAL VFL members.

Geelong
Essendon
Melbourne
Collingwood
Sydney (South)
Brisbane (Fitzroy)
Carlton
St Kilda

Still a national game with teams in three states too.

 

[kane249]

Imagine being a club that has to rely on handouts and fundraising in order to survive...

The 30-year anniversary of the SOS rally

It’s 30 years ago today since Richmond held its crucial Save Our Skins rally at the MCG.

www.richmondfc.com.au

 

[peetoo]

It does not pay to be a rusted on fan of a Melbourne based club

These fans are the ones paying for the AFLs expansion

Paying GC and GWS $50m, out of their pockets, to make them better, and their own clubs worse. And what for ? No one gives a stuff about GWS, or Gold Coast, they have no fans and it has been 15 years

To give them draft picks, and make your draft picks worse

What exactly is in it for the Melbourne fans ?

Who cares if the game is bigger ? Who benefits other than the AFL admin, so they can pay themselves more .

And to go with the huge investment they put in coaches and administrators with training wheels on. No organization in the world puts rookies in charge of their ventures int new markets

 

[owen87]

Its because Victoria is the home of football.

Fun fact, the VFL first season was in 1897.

The WAFL in 1885.

So is WA the home of football?

 

[blaisee]

And to go with the huge investment they put in coaches and administrators with training wheels on. No organization in the world puts rookies in charge of their ventures int new markets

its not their money, its our money

Thats why they DNGAF

 

[Purple Suit]

Especially with WA teams , we dont need em to be honest, your population is tiny, and its too far to fly

waste of time

WA & SA teams are bringing in money to the AFL, this pays for the expansion teams. The Big Vic clubs are paying for the small ones, not sure there is anything left to send North especially since it is so cheap to buy a membership over there. Milking is the wrong word, its the opposite for the Melbourne based fans and they are suckling on the teet of the AFL.

 

[kane249]

Also Just sayin'

Revealed: Where your club sits on AFL’s $276m ladder... and who’s getting the most help

Where your club sits on AFL’s $276m ladder as league’s wealth divide explained

www.foxsports.com.au

THE AFL 2023 FUNDING LADDER
1. Gold Coast ($25 million)
2. GWS Giants ($25 million)
3. Brisbane Lions ($18-19 million)
4. North Melbourne ($18-19 million)
5. St Kilda ($18-19 million)
6. Melbourne ($16 million)
7. Western Bulldogs ($16 million)
8. Port Adelaide ($16 million)
9. Sydney Swans ($16 million)
10. Fremantle ($11.5-12.5 million)
11. Carlton ($11.5-12.5 million)
12. Adelaide Crows ($11.5-12.5 million)
13. Geelong ($11.5-12.5 million)
14. Essendon ($11-11.5 million)
=15. Richmond ($10.5-11 million)
=15. Hawthorn ($10.5-11 million)
=15. Collingwood ($10.5-11 million)
=15. West Coast ($10.5-11 million)

AFL funding per state
Queensland $44 Million
NSW $41 Million
SA $28.5 Million
WA $23.5 Million
Victoria $139.5 Million

 

[Laphroaig]

OK, no more subsidies for anyone. Every club gets the same base distribution.

Be prepared to lose at least 4 Melbourne clubs.

How about a counter idea.

Given that eyes on screens is clearly the leading revenue source for the league, make distributions based on viewer numbers.

Goodbye 2 WA clubs.

 

[Farang83150]

How about a counter idea.

Given that eyes on screens is clearly the leading revenue source for the league, make distributions based on viewer numbers.

Goodbye 2 WA clubs.

Ah ok, so the 2 WA clubs can't afford to be in the AFL....
Obviously they're not making enough profit themselves and rely to heavily on the AFL handouts from the viewer revenue....

 

[blaisee]

How about a counter idea.

Given that eyes on screens is clearly the leading revenue source for the league, make distributions based on viewer numbers.

Goodbye 2 WA clubs.

good riddance

 

[Farang83150]

good riddance

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

It does not pay to be a rusted on fan of a Melbourne based club

These fans are the ones paying for the AFLs expansion

Paying GC and GWS $50m, out of their pockets, to make them better, and their own clubs worse. And what for ? No one gives a stuff about GWS, or Gold Coast, they have no fans and it has been 15 years

To give them draft picks, and make your draft picks worse

What exactly is in it for the Melbourne fans ?

Who cares if the game is bigger ? Who benefits other than the AFL admin, so they can pay themselves more .

It's not a 'game'. It's a 'product'.

You're not a 'fan'. You're a 'consumer'.

 

[RonnieRaven]

It does not pay to be a rusted on fan of a Melbourne based club

These fans are the ones paying for the AFLs expansion

Paying GC and GWS $50m, out of their pockets, to make them better, and their own clubs worse. And what for ? No one gives a stuff about GWS, or Gold Coast, they have no fans and it has been 15 years

To give them draft picks, and make your draft picks worse

What exactly is in it for the Melbourne fans ?

Who cares if the game is bigger ? Who benefits other than the AFL admin, so they can pay themselves more .

It doesn’t pay being a freo diehard.
One of only 4 clubs (tiges blues pies) to ave over 40k home attendance consecutively in 2022 and 23, we dream of being an after thought for the hierarchy.
No draft picks after the go home 55.
Think we had 1 stand alone Friday night game in 4 years yet we don’t get the 20+million equalisation payments.
The AFL media don’t know us the West media hate us.
With no success the AFL don’t care because us die hard non bandwagoners are balancing the books.

 

[blaisee]

It's not a 'game'. It's a 'product'.

You're not a 'fan'. You're a 'consumer'.

speak for yourself

 

[blaisee]

It doesn’t pay being a freo diehard.
One of only 4 clubs (tiges blues pies) to ave over 40k home attendance consecutively in 2022 and 23, we dream of being an after thought for the hierarchy.
No draft picks after the go home 55.
Think we had 1 stand alone Friday night game in 4 years yet we don’t get the 20+million equalisation payments.
The AFL media don’t know us the West media hate us.
With no success the AFL don’t care because us die hard non bandwagoners are balancing the books.

spot on

At least Fremantle is actually a real suburb with a history linked to two real WAFL clubs, unlike the rest of these franchises

WTF is West Coast anyway ?

 

[Farang83150]