Unsolved Missing Australia Women and Serial Killers

[thinks]

Saw an article just a few days ago. Police are having another look at it.

i stumbled across some info re Kathryn Grosvenor, I'm curious to tie a few things together, does anybody know which mt erin school she went to and also which primary school, plus whether glenn and Kerrie are her blood parents as her 'brothers' adam and Mathew, please, thank you

 

[HellasOle]

Anyone see those Seanna and Margaret Tapp murders on Channel 7
Telling you right now it was Bandali Debs

 

[sprockets]

Anyone see those Seanna and Margaret Tapp murders on Channel 7
Telling you right now it was Bandali Debs

They have DNA of the killer and I presume they'd have DNA of Debs.

 

[mrsbeard]

Yep. I think in US it's 30 or so. Or 1 in every 10m people. It's not hard to fathom we may have 2 or 3 lurking.

Pretty sure it's 5-10 for the US at any one time and 0-2 for Australia.

 

[mrsbeard]

Does anyone know the cause of death or the injuries the victims sustained from Tynong or Frankston North? And were the Frankston North victims found naked?

 

[AllanFunt]

I've compiled a list from the aforementioned site (will add to it). i know of a few who aren't on there so I suggest there are lots. Let me know if anyone recognises missing/murdered women who aren't on there.

At first look it's apparent most are one off from husbands and boyfriends but I have no doubt we have 1 or 2 serial killers undetected roaming around. 3 girls from Katoomba and 2 from Ballarat raised my eyebrows. One of the Ballarat ones may be consistent with the CSK.

2011 Nerang QLD 50 Catherine Davis Anglo
2011 Boronia VIC 13 Bung Siriboon Thai
2010 Darwin NT 46 Karen kelly Anglo
2009 Mt Pritchard NSW 15 Rista Chanthavixnay Indian
2008 Burnie TAS 20 Helen Munnings Anglo
2008 Oakleigh South VIC 23 Sally Cheong Asian
2008 Roseville NSW 34 Merry Faustd Filipino
2007 Melton South VIC 41 Cindy Crossthwaite Anglo
2006 Resevoir Vic 16 Kimberley Nelson Anglo
2005 Warburton WA 28 Donelle Newberry Aboriginal
2005 Lismore NSW 25 Simone Strobel Anglo
2004 Willawarrin NSW 19 Kylee Schaffer Anglo
2004 Alice Springs NT 52 Jennifer Lane Anglo
2003 Katoomba NSW 24 Ariel Livesey Anglo
2003 Gembrook VIC 31 Joanne Deason Anglo
2003 Goondiwindi QLD Therese Binge Aboriginal
2003 Lewisham NSW 31 Louisa Wawn Anglo
2003 Bellingen NSW 18 Rose Howell Anglo
2002 Wangaratta VIC 37 Kath Bergamin Anglo
2002 Port Lincoln SA 40 Susan Gooswin Anglo
2002 Campbelltown NSW 19 Amber Haigh Anglo
2002 Batlow/Tumut NSW 18 Naimh Maye Anglo
2002 Canberra ACT 23 Kathryn Grosvenor Anglo
2002 Pennington SA 35 Karen Morton Anglo
2002 Gladesville NSW 32 Carmen Giannasca Italian
2001 Bathurst NSW 31 Janine Vaughan Anglo
2001 Margate QLD 34 Patricia Riggs Anglo
2001 Katoomba NSW 24 Kelly Carmichael Anglo
2000 Swan Districts WA 20 Sarah McMahon Anglo
2000 Mudgee NSW 39 Michelle Mills Anglo
2000 Croydon VIC 42 Linda Grimstone Anglo
2000 Blair Athol SA 15 Melissa Brown Anglo
2000 Somers VIC 56 Carolyn Wilson Anglo
2000 Cairns QLD 18 Angela mealing Anglo
2000 Middle swan WA 24 Deborah Anderson Anglo
1999 Sunshine Coast QLD 35 Kerry Engwirda Anglo
1999 Kalgoorlie WA 28 Lisa Govan Anglo
1999 Badjingarra WA 17 Hayley Dodd Anglo
1999 Huskisson NSW 16 Kathleen Harris Anglo
1999 Alice Springs NT 34 Christine Somogyi Anglo
1999 Ballarat VIC 36 Belinda Williams Anglo
1998 Ballarat VIC 33 Tracey Howard Anglo
1998 North Perth WA 18 Lisa Brown Anglo
1998 Katoomba NSW 19 Belinda Peisley Anglo
1998 Clyde NSW 12 Quanne Diec East Asian
1998 Kensington Gardens SA 48 Christne Reford Anglo
1998 Bowen QLD 16 Rachel Antonio Anglo
1998 Nimbin NSW 38 Lois Roberts Aboriginal
1997 Kelso/Bathurst NSW 15 Jessica Small Anglo
1997 Albany WA 25 Peta Weber Anglo
1997 Claremont WA 27 Ciara Glennon Anglo
1997 Melbourne VIC 33 Theresa Pace Maltese
1997 Broome WA 24 Sara-Lee Davey Aboriginal
1997 Yamba NSW 16 Lee Stace Anglo
1996 Coffs Harbour NSW 20 Ineka Hinkley Anglo
1996 Annerley QLD 39 Kiai Kila PNG
1996 Bondi NSW 30 Talei Pless Anglo
1996 Moe VIC 33 Marcia Ryan Anglo
1996 Claremont WA 25 Jane Rimmer Anglo
1996 Claremont WA 22 Sarah Spiers Anglo
1995 Palm Beach QLD 24 Tamela Menzies Anglo
1995 Refern NSW 39 Elizabeth Barlow Aboriginal
1995 Footscray VIC 26 Shari Davison Anglo
1995 Brighton NSW 30 Lisa Flanagan Anglo
1995 Kardinya WA 20 Karen Skinner Anglo
1994 Kingsford NSW 22 Revelle Balmain Anglo

1993 TAS26Nancy Grunwaldt
1993 Green Valley NSW 25 Tracey Valesini Anglo
1993 Lennox Head NSW 31 Bronwyn Winfield Anglo
1992 Geelong VIC 13 Claare Morrison Anglo
1992 ACT 18 Amelia Hausia Tongan
1992 Morphett Vale SA 12 Rhianna Barreau Anglo
1992 Gold Coast QLD 24 Kathleen Farrow Anglo
1992 WA 14 Radina Djukich Anglo
1992 Armadale WA 46 Debra Donachy Anglo
1992 Katoomba NSW 23 Maureen McLaughlin Anglo
1992 Geelong West VIC 30 Anette Steward Anglo
1992 Bundeena NSW 37 Pia Navida Filipino
1992 Glenroy VIC 13 Prudence Bird Anglo
1991 Fitzgerald TAS 14 Eve Askew Anglo
1991 Regents Park NSW 14 Bianca Nelson Arabic
1991 Templestowe VIC 13 Karmein Chan Asian
1991 Eagle Vale NSW 22 Carmen Verheyden Anglo
1990 Bordetown SA 15 Fiona Burns Anglo
1990 Bowraville NSW 16 Colleen Walker Aboriginal
1990 Riverview QLD 27 Julie-Ann Gallon Anglo

Yes - it highlights there are some evil people out there. Will be interesting to see how many of these are being reinvestigated with the recent breakthroughs in technology.

 

[Duritz]

Pretty sure it's 5-10 for the US at any one time and 0-2 for Australia.

Not if you watch the Killing season. Netflix.

 

[Kurve]

Not if you watch the Killing season. Netflix.

Is it any good? No Netflix here, anywhere else I can see it?

How many in Australia? I'm guessing minimum of two at any given time to maximum of about six ...

 

[Duritz]

Is it any good? No Netflix here, anywhere else I can see it?

How many in Australia? I'm guessing minimum of two at any given time to maximum of about six ...

It's pretty good. It's set in America and initially investigates a string of dead prostitutes on Gilgo beach area but branches out and delves into what could potentially be an endemic problem all across the states. If you beleive their research then there could be hundreds in America active.

Worth watching. It was actually Foxtel I saw it on, not Netflix.

 

[Kurve]

It's pretty good. It's set in America and initially investigates a string of dead prostitutes on Gilgo beach area but branches out and delves into what could potentially be an endemic problem all across the states. If you beleive their research then there could be hundreds in America active.

Worth watching. It was actually Foxtel I saw it on, not Netflix.

I'll find it, thanks.

 

[mrsbeard]

I'll find it, thanks.

I actually really liked the series. It opened more questions than it answered. After they started looking at Gilgo beach it kind of just unraveled in a shocking way.

I think hundreds active right now is an over-estimate. Though there is potentially hundreds of victims of serial killers who's cases haven't been solved. And lots of victims who haven't been ID'd too. I believe half of the Gilgo victims haven't been ID'd. The show did make me question whether they will ever be able to solve the case.

I'm hoping for a second season.

 

[Dan Baker]

Victim Kerry Turner and Devlin have witnesses seeing the same car.

Vanessa Devlin

While reported car is slightly different model and colour, blue versus green, 240c vs 260c it sounds like a late night description.

Be interesting to see the colour of car Julie Cutler reported to police that followed her from work down Stirling highway heading towards Fremantle.

Julie Cutler later went missing after a staff party on 14 Mill st at her work Parmelia Hotel.
Cutlers vehicle later discovered in the ocean off Cottesloe near Eric st where Cutler had prior been followed to and the stalker turned off.
Not far from where other murders had occurred in Glyde st, Mosman Park, a renowned heroin area.
Also unsolved assault on German au pair.
Kerry Turner got in a car at Miller st and Shepperton hwy after running out of money for taxis.
Turners body later found by a family at picnic placed behind a log up near a Perth dam.
Maybe a query in a contemporary database may return some prior owners.
At the time less than a million people lived in Perth.
Japanese cars only starting to be popular.

Police investigating the brutal sex murder of Vanessa Roberta Devlin, 23, have appealed to the public to help in the search for a man who gave her a lift to her Maddington house just before she was murdered. The man was seen arriving in a metallic green Datsun 240c sedan and is believed to be the last person to see her alive.

Senior Detective Sergeant Max Kiernan the man heading the hunt for the notorious “Southside rapist” said yesterday the 1976 or 1977 model car had been parked at Miss Devlin’s house at 2003? Albany Highway. It had mag wheels, stickers on the rear windscreen and black and yellow registration plates.

Police hunted for the vehicle, described by witnesses as a dark blue car, similar to a Datsun 260C, which had spoked wheels, but came up empty-handed.

http://www.news.com.au/national/cri...d/news-story/5fc90319ac3f97ce0eeb3127df726998

The irony, Cutler goes missing from work hospitality party at hotel.

 

[Dan Baker]

Corryn Rayney (Supreme Court Registrar) ends up in Lovekin Drive, Kings Park

Rayney [rayney] as a girls' name is of Latin origin, and the name Rayney means "queen". Rayney is a version of Raina (Latin): version of Regina (Latin).

More than likely coincidence that Queens st runs into Bentley Community Centre where Corryn was line dancing

"Theres a body going in there"
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wes...y/news-story/5784d147fb9256572c2a2be55a31dbe7

*Legal eagles quite familiar with latin

 

[Dan Baker]

At the end of the day, every whacko serial killer thinks different, but the common theme appears to be a level of megalomania in hinting to police the crimes are tied together and the lesser hinting at their identity.

A prime example is the behaviour of Zodiac sending police encrypted messages alluding to his identity. Taunting police.

 

[Dan Baker]

The interesting thing with this crime is the cars are nigh on identical but someone has been charged for one of the crimes. Tilbury

While the crimes have almost identical descriptions of vehicles made at night, no one has been charged for Kerry Turners crime.

Police investigating the brutal sex murder of Vanessa Roberta Devlin, 23, have appealed to the public to help in the search for a man who gave her a lift to her Maddington house just before she was murdered. The man was seen arriving in a metallic green Datsun 240c sedan and is believed to be the last person to see her alive.

Senior Detective Sergeant Max Kiernan the man heading the hunt for the notorious “Southside rapist” said yesterday the 1976 or 1977 model car had been parked at Miss Devlin’s house at 2003? Albany Highway. It had mag wheels, stickers on the rear windscreen and black and yellow registration plates.

Police hunted for the vehicle, described by witnesses as a dark blue car, similar to a Datsun 260C, which had spoked wheels, but came up empty-handed.

http://www.news.com.au/national/cri...d/news-story/5fc90319ac3f97ce0eeb3127df726998

 

[GreyCrow]

Kerry Turner

She caught a taxi from Murray Street to go home about 4:00am the following morning. The driver dropped Kerry off on the Causeway when he learned she did not have money for the fare.

Witnesses saw Ms Turner sitting on the curb on the Causeway and trying to hitch a ride.

She was eventually picked up by another taxi which dropped her off about 5:00am on Shepperton Road, opposite what is now Conca's Italian Restaurant.

Soon afterwards, a vehicle described by witnesses as similar to a dark-coloured or blue Datsun sedan pulled up next to Ms Turner. Another witness described the vehicle as a fawn-coloured sedan with spoked wheels.

Kerry was seen entering the car on the passenger side, and it continued south on Shepperton Road.

Anyone know who the 2nd taxi driver was?

 

[Dan Baker]

Kerry Turner

She caught a taxi from Murray Street to go home about 4:00am the following morning. The driver dropped Kerry off on the Causeway when he learned she did not have money for the fare.

Witnesses saw Ms Turner sitting on the curb on the Causeway and trying to hitch a ride.

She was eventually picked up by another taxi which dropped her off about 5:00am on Shepperton Road, opposite what is now Conca's Italian Restaurant.

Soon afterwards, a vehicle described by witnesses as similar to a dark-coloured or blue Datsun sedan pulled up next to Ms Turner. Another witness described the vehicle as a fawn-coloured sedan with spoked wheels.

Kerry was seen entering the car on the passenger side, and it continued south on Shepperton Road.

Anyone know who the 2nd taxi driver was?

Yep, totally agree. The colour of the vehicle seems to be conflicting based on the light refraction of a metallic paint maybe. If you have a 260C with metallic paint under an amber bulb street light on different angles it can refract light or dark depending on the angle and shadows. This could have caused conflicting descriptions of the car. The car could have been metallic green.

There was a metallic paint called chameleon, because dependant on what angle you looked, the car was 3 or 4 different colours. One angle it was one colour, another angle, another colour.

The early premise for the Bluebird were popular as they were cheap second-hand with luxury options inside and good power to weight ratios. I'm pretty sure at one stage there was a form of 'culture' of ownership by certain demographics as they could be quite fast,"for the day".

It shows there was a 4.0 litre police version but I doubt that made it to Australia. However there was more swapping around of power trains at the time as cheap parts from newspapers etc were adaptable. People sold car parts out there 'big backyards', mostly in outer suburbs for cash. Some their models came with spoke like hubcaps.

https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Datsun_200C
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Cedric

Im sure there was a blue 260c wanted in a crime in another state. Adelaide maybe.

The intersection of Shepperton and Miller was where Kerry got in the car out front the shop outside the above said Itallian, AFAIK

Maybe it was Tilbury. Maybe it was one of Tilburys mates. Only the cops can query the database for someone owning a car at that time. Not us.

 

[Dan Baker]

I wonder if they managed some DNA collection? Julie Cutler was 1988. Run off the road in by a Datsun???

Kerry was discovered by a family in a picnic area behind a log. Left to be discovered??? Sound familiar?

Not sure which school she went to???

The body of Kerry Turner, 18, was discovered in late July 1991 hidden behind a log in bushland in the Canning Dam area.

She was last seen getting into a car on Shepperton Road in East Victoria Park after a night out four weeks earlier.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-...-for-help-25-years-after-perth-murder/7549252

 

[Dan Baker]

Cutler was in hospitality.

25th of January 2000, Deborah Michelle ANDERSON.

Deborah moved to the United Kingdom in 1990 to be with her mother, returning nine years later in August 1999 to re-unite with her father and commence a cooking course at the Australian School of Tourism and Hotel Management.

Discovered in a burnt out motor vehicle parked outside Marant’s Deli Lunch Bar at the Middle Swan Shopping Centre, (Dance drive?)
http://awn.bz/MissingMurdered_WestAust.html

 

[Dan Baker]

Someone who might like to do up cars in their drive. Have a mess around. Someone who might like to polish cars. Maybe someone with a blue Holden Gemini perhaps....

 

[petedavo]

Someone who might like to do up cars in their drive. Have a mess around. Someone who might like to polish cars. Maybe someone with a blue Holden Gemini perhaps....

How coincidental? In 1986, Mr Richardson in a Volkswagen was hassled by a Police recruit driving a blue Holden Gemini.

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[Dan Baker]

How coincidental? In 1986, Mr Richardson in a Volkswagen was hassled by a Police recruit

A blue Gemini, thats not good

So Mr Richardson would be a witness to the identity of the police recruit who was driving the vehicle. It appears odd that the recruits parents rolled up to the Fremantle police station.
That might insinuate the father of the police recruit was a policeman. A police Inspector arrived at a drunk driving test. Now that's odd.

Never mind whether he was under after. The police recruit had a vehicle collision at 0.12% alcohol limit.

 

[Dan Baker]

You mean like a blue Gemini with a broken tail light in someones driveway? Obviously after an incident.

Private messaged picture of Gemini with broken tail light in the interest of subjustice

Would this be the Bright Spy in the Dark Cloak, entertaining a Dark Tournament with a beautiful knife?
That might explain why an individual may be targeted out of the blue, in an attempt to run Cutler off the road for no apparent reason down Stirling highway in a Celtic Iona festival of psychopathic stalking murder near Glyde st the heroin lane. No apparent motive.

Julie Cutler was 20th of June 1988.
Ms Turner had gone to Pinocchio's night club in Perth's Murray Street on the evening of Saturday June 29 1991
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-...-for-help-25-years-after-perth-murder/7549252
Pinocchios was situated in Magnet House, the home of General Electric responsible for electrical items such as Sterling telephones in the early 1936.

Kerry Turners brother, Alex was murdered 2 years later (1993); in an "apparent" homophobic attack

 

[Dan Baker]

Murdered Australia day weekend like Spiers? The mad republican?

Deborah Michelle Anderson found murdered in Dance Drive, Middle Swan WA on the 24th day of January 2000 - her case still sadly unsolved.

Coincidently Dance drive is named after the original "Title holders" in this area. The Dance family. Later Corryn Rayney is murdered post line dancing.
Obviously on this occasion there was no ocean to drive a car in, so setting Andersons car on fire was the only way if destroying evidence after driving to Geraldton and back. Why would someone drive to Geraldton and back? Is that where Anderson was taken?

Crazy psychopath people, or just coincidence?

 

[Dan Baker]

Ok, so Kerrys brother wasnt bashed. Kerrys brother was deliberately injected with drugs in an overdose, murdered. Presumably heroin and died.

Julie Cutler went June 20 (1988), Kerry Turner June 30 (1991)

In 1985, their son, Jamie, 18, died after being injected with drugs by a man who was later convicted of his manslaughter.

Six years later, on June 30, 1991, Kerry, their youngest daughter, went missing.

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/s...der-of-teen-kerry-turner-20160628-gptg4f.html