Moon landing

[Ed_Gein]

Anyone have any opinions on whether it was real or fake?

Personally, i think it was stooged in a film studio in Area 51.

Some of the people who support the theory that it was indeed fake have come up with some pretty good cases as to why.

I haven't looked into it enough to make a strong case on it, but i wanted to see what others thought.

 

[lachlan24]

I think it was real. My physics teacher at school spent hours proving his point, but i forget what it was. Convinced me though

 

[exe ex machina]

I've been involved in a huge online battle with certain people and spent millions of words fully explaining why the conspiracy believes what it does, too much stuff to put in here.

But...it was fake based on certain information. Just as it was real based on other information.

While I'm at it, 911 also has a lot of information that supports the conspiracy it was a government/cia job, just as there is information that supports it wasn't.

While I'm on that, JFK, there's a lot of information supporting a government/cia hit, just as there is info that it wasn't.

In all three cases....Fake moon landing, govt/cia job, govt/cia hit.

 

[Lonie_from_50]

Watching those moon landing conspiracy shows on pay TV pays off. I mean, everything their seems so real to the extent that it is impossible to get to the moon.

I believe it is fake, but then again, it isn't really concerning. On the topic of Area 51, I believe in the stories that go on their.

 

[exe ex machina]

Area 51... another one with a lot of credible 'conspiratorial' info.

 

[year of the roo]

I have absolutely no doubt that it is real. Those who disagree would get better use out of their time searching the skies in the US South for UFO's.

 

[exe ex machina]

I have absolutely no doubt that it is real. Those who disagree would get better use out of their time searching the skies in the US South for UFO's.

UFO's in the deep south... there's another one to add to the list.

 

[Dont be a lemon]

Those who think the moon landings were faked are living in denial.

 

[exe ex machina]

Those who think the moon landings were faked are living in denial.

How can it be a case of living in denial, when for 30 odd years it was universally accepted as truth that the landing happened??? The one's living in denial are those who still believe it was real after all the NEW info that's come out casting major doubt on it. It's denial for them because they can't fathom such a truth being a lie. Whereas everyone else always did believe anyway.

 

[Coin_Toss]

I reckon it's fake, nothing adds up by that I mean......The American Flag was gushing but there's no breeze in outer space. How can they catch the rocket blast off the moon. The footage was also too bright.

The Russians said it was impossible to land on the moon because of the dangers involved.

Best. Hoax. Ever.

 

[exe ex machina]

I reckon it's fake, nothing adds up by that I mean......The American Flag was gushing but there's no breeze in outer space. How can they catch the rocket blast off the moon. The footage was also too bright.

The Russians said it was impossible to land on the moon because of the dangers involved.

Best. Hoax. Ever.

Damn you, now I have to mention some others, but only a few...

1. Rocket blast causes no crater, yet the guys steps leave huge footprints.

2. A big letter C found on the ground in some pics. Letters A, B, C, D, E are used by film productions to plot out where actors take their cues for the camera.

3. Many shots of the multitude of places they went to on the moon were actually all the exact some geography, same hills etc, just shot at different angles.

4. Many of the shots show multiple light sources and their shadows on the ground - like a whole bunch of lights used when shooting film use.

5. Many shots of the astronauts are impossible. For instance, shots where half the guys body is being hit by light and the other half of him is in darkness. In those pics there is far too much detail of his spacesuit or hands etc in the dark side of the pic. If they were really on the moon, it would be utterly black and impossible to be picked up in any detail from whatever light source.

6. Impossible for astronauts to use those little handheld cameras and take photos. Reason - because in those bulky gloves in low gravity it is impossible (scientifically) to have any intricacy of movement or control with their fingers. Those cameras had really minute finnicky mechanisms and buttons.

7, 8, 9, 10, etc etc etc...are all out there.

 

[JeffDunne]

The American Flag was gushing but there's no breeze in outer space.

It was "fluttering" (or "gushing" as you put it) due to the fact there is no atmosphere.

I could debunk the rest of the claims but why bother, I'm sure you've heard them all before.

 

[crudbucket]

I reckon it's fake, nothing adds up by that I mean......The American Flag was gushing but there's no breeze in outer space. How can they catch the rocket blast off the moon. The footage was also too bright.

The Russians said it was impossible to land on the moon because of the dangers involved.

Best. Hoax. Ever.

That is the best evidence that it is real right there. If anyone could've proved that it was fake at the time it was the Russkies, and they would've done so if they had the slightest proof of same.
The fact that in over 35 years we've heard not a peep out of the Kremlin leads me to vote for the affirmative. the landings are real.

 

[Leaping Lindner]

I reckon it's fake, nothing adds up by that I mean......The American Flag was gushing but there's no breeze in outer space. How can they catch the rocket blast off the moon. The footage was also too bright.

The Russians said it was impossible to land on the moon because of the dangers involved.

Best. Hoax. Ever.

1). The flag was specifically stiffened (or starched) so it would look like it was flying.
2). The take off of the Lunar Module from the moon was done with a remote control camera.

 

[exe ex machina]

So the war rages on.....good one Ed_Gein lol.

 

[Dont be a lemon]

This topic reminds me of this http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

 

[exe ex machina]

This topic reminds me of this http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

That author's main point is flawed for obvious reasons.

Things like 9/11, JFK and the Moon Landing are those moments when those 5% powerful who own 95% of the wealth types make things happen. From time to time things leak, people speak out, discrepancies are discovered. Especially these days, with the power of the internet, and high tech tools/resources available to most people nowadays (like cameras, microphones, etc). In the early century, these same sort of huge events happened but we were all poor slaves without any resources and mass communication devices to understand what was going on.

 

[Chief]

Oh my god. Those 5% are too busy trying to gouge money out of the other 95% to bother with something as elaborate and completely STUPID as faking a moon landing. My god, the thousands of people who would have to be involved would be impossible to pay off or keep quiet.

 

[silky-smooth]

The Russians said it was impossible to land on the moon because of the dangers involved.

Like crudbucket said, wouldn't you think the Russians would have exposed the US then? They invested billions of dollars in the space race, and would have utilised every possible resource to track NASA's every move. Don't tell me the US paid Russia to keep quiet too!

 

[Coin_Toss]

That is the best evidence that it is real right there. If anyone could've proved that it was fake at the time it was the Russkies, and they would've done so if they had the slightest proof of same.
The fact that in over 35 years we've heard not a peep out of the Kremlin leads me to vote for the affirmative. the landings are real.

There's radiation on the moon. That is the the best evidence that it is fake.

Why don't they (Americans) go back to the moon? If they've been there surely they can go back there, once you've done something it should get easier the next time.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

There's radiation on the moon. That is the the best evidence that it is fake.

There is, and there's radiation right through space, which is dangerous for people in the medium to long term. It does not automatically follow, however, that it's unsafe in the short term.

Whilst the moon doesn't have an atmosphere, which makes it less safe than, say, Mars; it is actually safer than space itself because the presence of the moon below you blocks half the radiation you'd normally get in space

Why don't they (Americans) go back to the moon? If they've been there surely they can go back there, once you've done something it should get easier the next time.

cost, and the lack of a superpower rival to fuel an expensive space race for the sake of prestige.

Some pretty good debunking stuff here from self-confessed conspiracy theorists:

http://www.lunaranomalies.com/fake-moon.htm

http://www.lunaranomalies.com/fake-moon2.htm

And specifically the radiation issue:

http://www.lunaranomalies.com/rad.htm

Honestly, anyone who believes the moon landing was faked is a gullible fool

 

[exe ex machina]

Honestly, anyone who believes the moon landing was faked is a gullible fool

At least we aren't living in denial lol.

Seriously tho, the thing is, there's a lot of credible evidence on both sides. By that I mean that still holds up, no rock solid debunking for one, and no rock solid smoking gun. But I lean towards fake.

Some people's brains explode at the thought the moon landing was faked, their whole 30 years of living by that belief far too hard to deal with the notion it was a lie.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

At least we aren't living in denial lol.

Seriously tho, the thing is, there's a lot of credible evidence on both sides. By that I mean that still holds up, no rock solid debunking for one, and no rock solid smoking gun. But I lean towards fake.

Some people's brains explode at the thought the moon landing was faked, their whole 30 years of living by that belief far too hard to deal with the notion it was a lie.

did you read those links?

I'm not saying that an internet site is the last word on the issue (although it's fairly damn rock solid - and if you don't think so, please, let me know why), but just saying that people are living in denial and can't handle the thought of 30 years of belief is specious at best.

Those links I mentioned do, rock solidly, debunk every one of the points offered up by conspiracist theorists, or as far as I'm aware. If you can find fault with any of that debunking, or there's some you don't think are covered, I'd love to hear about it.

 

[exe ex machina]

did you read those links?

I'm not saying that an internet site is the last word on the issue (although it's fairly damn rock solid - and if you don't think so, please, let me know why), but just saying that people are living in denial and can't handle the thought of 30 years of belief is specious at best.

Those links I mentioned do, rock solidly, debunk every one of the points offered up by conspiracist theorists, or as far as I'm aware. If you can find fault with any of that debunking, or there's some you don't think are covered, I'd love to hear about it.

To be fair dude I haven't read those links, but I will. Give me time. But I've been involved in this huge debate before where all those debunking scientific links and articles have been read/referenced as well as in turn the same fully scientific articles that debunk the debunkers. It's very difficult to say for sure fake or for sure real. There's a lot of solid evidence/info on both sides.

As for the specious part....I just mean that most older people who were children when that happened, and grew up fully accepting it, like us in our teens and twenties who went along believing all this but weren't around when it happened, it seems they are far more shocked and unwilling to even think about notions of such things as faked moon landings or jesus wasn't a virgin etc etc. All those sorts of things.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

To be fair dude I haven't read those links, but I will. Give me time. But I've been involved in this huge debate before where all those debunking scientific links and articles have been read/referenced as well as in turn the same fully scientific articles that debunk the debunkers. It's very difficult to say for sure fake or for sure real. There's a lot of solid evidence/info on both sides.

As for the specious part....I just mean that most older people who were children when that happened, and grew up fully accepting it, like us in our teens and twenties who went along believing all this but weren't around when it happened, it seems they are far more shocked and unwilling to even think about notions of such things as faked moon landings or jesus wasn't a virgin etc etc. All those sorts of things.

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