Current murder of Melbourne comedian Eurydice Dixon after body found in park

[mr bagcroft]

More likely drug culture than male culture.

bingo.

 

[Kurve]

Some people are sick, figuratively and literally

No denial of that sprockets.

Normal men don't rape and murder.

I think they can given the right circumstances, we've all got that switch? imo.

 

[owen87]

No denial of that sprockets.



I think they can given the right circumstances, we've all got that switch? imo.

Presumably anyone - male or female - can rape & murder given the right circumstances; those circumstances just don't happen to occur for the 99 odd percent of humanity who don't do either of those things.

 

[Kurve]

Meshel Laurie and Narelle Ford (ex homicide) have done a decent podcast about it.

Generation after generation of women are told that the only way society can ensure their safety after dark is for them to agree never walk alone. Is it fair? Is it reasonable? Is it just reality? Narelle Fraser and Assistant Commissioner Stephen Leane from Victoria Police join us to discuss violence against women in the wake of the rape and murder of Eurydice Dixon.

https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=248282

 

[CatFan79]

those circumstances just don't happen to occur for the 99 odd percent of humanity who don't do either of those things.

100% of men know that rape is totally unacceptable in our society, even the rapists.

To suggest that men need to be educated by all other men that it's not ok to rape a woman, then pretend that's some kind of solution is ridiculous.

It's gender politics gone mad.

 

[sprockets]

Meshel Laurie and Narelle Ford (ex homicide) have done a decent podcast about it.

Generation after generation of women are told that the only way society can ensure their safety after dark is for them to agree never walk alone. Is it fair? Is it reasonable? Is it just reality? Narelle Fraser and Assistant Commissioner Stephen Leane from Victoria Police join us to discuss violence against women in the wake of the rape and murder of Eurydice Dixon.

https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=248282

There's an old saying 'prevention is better than a cure'. We do things to prevent other things every day, probably multiple times a day, including personal safety things. Being aware that there are people that aren't normal out there and taking precaution is reasonable. And there'll always be predators out there, as there always has been since Eve did her thing with the banana.

 

[sprockets]

If anyone can rape and murder in the right circumstances then no amount of 'education' will fix it. As CatFan79 posted, 100% of men know that those things are unacceptable.

 

[Kurve]

If anyone can rape and murder in the right circumstances then no amount of 'education' will fix it. As CatFan79 posted, 100% of men know that those things are unacceptable.

The resistance is strong ....

 

[Brick Loosener]

I think even you know honestly, it's a valid theory if complex and not the only answer but if I rephrased it "Is asking for help or an assist (like we are actually on the same team) in affecting a change too hard?" Would you be hostile to that?

At some point if your echo chamber is on fire it actually has to be on fire.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Women shouldn't be walking around unaccompanied after hours and all the hand wringing candlelight vigils in the world is not going to change that fact.

 

[Iworkthecircus]

Women shouldn't be walking around unaccompanied after hours and all the hand wringing candlelight vigils in the world is not going to change that fact.

Inflammatory comments , kinda trolling .

 

[Snake_Baker]

Inflammatory comments , kinda trolling .

Anthropological reality, kinda scientific.

Stick to the circus.

 

[Iworkthecircus]

Ask your self this , I'll put money on this crime was premeditated . You know iworkthecircus is just a name right ?

 

[Snake_Baker]

Ask your self this , I'll put money on this crime was premeditated .

Asked myself that, and don't agree.

P.S. I have a degree in criminology.

 

[Iworkthecircus]

Asked myself that, and don't agree.

P.S. I have a degree in criminology.

Books are ok , but skills in life are better learnt in the field , you can't play afl and not be able to kick .

 

[Kurve]

Anthropological reality, kinda scientific.

You agree this is a gender issue?

 

[Snake_Baker]

You agree this is a gender issue?

A "gender issue"?

I'm not quite sure what you are inferring.

It is certainly a gender reality.

 

[CatFan79]

I'm not quite sure what you are inferring.

If you read the previous posts it goes like this:

-all men are potential rapists, they all have 'the switch'
-her son(s) or other males (not sure) regularly get into fights because they're 'men', not because these people would have underlying anger management issues relating to some unfulfilled aspect of their life
-won't accept that violence against women (given it's concentration) is primarily a social/cultural issue, not a gender one.

 

[Snake_Baker]

If you read the previous posts it goes like this:

-all men are potential rapists, they all have 'the switch'

No, but virtually all rapists are men.

-her son(s) or other males (not sure) regularly get into fights because they're 'men', not because these people would have underlying anger management issues relating to some unfulfilled aspect of their life

Testosterone and male nature do have a role.

-won't accept that violence against women (given it's concentration) is primarily a social/cultural issue, not a gender one.

It's not as simple as an either/or answer.

 

[Kurve]

If you read the previous posts it goes like this:

-all men are potential rapists, they all have 'the switch'

WE all have a switch and are capable of violence is what I said imo.

-her son(s) or other males (not sure) regularly get into fights because they're 'men', not because these people would have underlying anger management issues relating to some unfulfilled aspect of their life

I didn't specify victim or aggressor but demonstrated my agreeableness and knowledge that a son will be more at risk of becoming a victim of male on male violence than a daughter likely would going out for the night

-won't accept that violence against women (given it's concentration) is primarily a social/cultural issue, not a gender one.

Not really but improved.

Perhaps you don't have a problem with comprehension after all but are simply muddying for whatever reason ...

 

[Snake_Baker]

What both of you need to acknowledge is that all of the blaming and virtue signalling in the world isn't going to stop it happening and women need to be educated better about the realities of the world..

 

[Kurve]

What both of you need to acknowledge is that all of the blaming and virtue signalling in the world isn't going to stop it happening and women need to be educated better about the realities of the world..

Honestly? Who's blaming and puke virtue signalling?

Cattiness in this thread is probably kind of inappropriate as is taking a paternalistic condescending tone in telling women they need to be better educated when the violence is in their/our faces every day, usually on front pages.

 

[CatFan79]

What both of you need to acknowledge is that all of the blaming and virtue signalling in the world isn't going to stop it happening and women need to be educated better about the realities of the world..

Couldn't agree more.

But if we're talking about lowering the violence against women stats the focus needs to be in low socio-economic and indigenous areas. Gender politics has never been and never will be productive.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Honestly? Who's blaming and puke virtue signalling?

Cattiness in this thread is probably kind of inappropriate as is taking a paternalistic condescending tone in telling women they need to be better educated when the violence is in their/our faces every day, usually on front pages.

Yeah, that's it. Get outraged.

Eurydice Dixon is dead because she wasn't well educated enough about the dangers.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Couldn't agree more.

But if we're talking about lowering the violence against women stats the focus needs to be in low socio-economic and indigenous areas. Gender politics has never been and never will be productive.

Indigenous, yes.

How are you going to initiate change in lower socio- economic locales? Give people money?