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[Crow till I die]

How is whitlock a first rounder ? Played 3 games on that logic dan curtin is 2 top5 picks

Ahem...he is untradeable, forget 2 x top 5 picks rubbish

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Starters this is not my opinion I’m only basing things of what the club views Withlock as.

It’s always been viewed as Nas will leave St Kilda for 2 firsts and Victorian media plus Saints supporters are pushing for 3x firsts.

Well St Kilda aren’t getting 3x first for him that’s not happening.

So that why I’m mentioning things in this manner.

He's just about the most valuable player in the game, if the raw picks in compromised drafts are all over 10, I'd expect 3 firsts. When we were a sniff at Kozzie I expected Freo to have to give up all 3 firsts we had access to (and that was before he'd played a game this year and exploded). Not all firsts are equal.

Also, you are posting on here as your view, I dont know why you keep deflecting that.

When trading for elite, the club will want it's best shot at elite talent to replace him - that's a guaranteed top 10 pick as the starting point. Whitlock and future 1sts are not guaranteed but could probably be used together to get into the top 10. That's your starting point where at least discussions can be had on what else is needed.

 

[stavro#4]

Ahem...he is untradeable, forget 2 x top 5 picks rubbish

Sorry mate, west coast rate Owies as a number 1 pick.

I’d imagine Adelaide feel the same.

If he wants to go home you’ll have to accept it and maybe throw back a third and fourth rounder for your trouble.

 

[Crow till I die]

Sorry mate, west coast rate Owies as a number 1 pick.

I’d imagine Adelaide feel the same.

If he wants to go home you’ll have to accept it and maybe throw back a third and fourth rounder for your trouble.

That fella Whitlock that this port poster keeps spruiking...I looked him up and this was the picture it showed

 

[Portwrld]

How is whitlock a first rounder ? Played 3 games on that logic dan curtin is 2 top5 picks

I think and Chewy316 can correct me.

When we drafted Jack we would him as someone who should of been taken in the first round and picked up a gem that fell down to 33.

I’m given a view of how Jason Cripps and CD might view things.

This is certainly not my view on what’s nas is worth tho.

 

[stavro#4]

That fella Whitlock that this port poster keeps spruiking...I looked him up and this was the picture it showed

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That Whitlock has a bung knee.

50% off the value for the risk.

Seems fair?

 

[Crow till I die]

That Whitlock has a bung knee.

50% off the value for the risk.

Seems fair?

Yah but the other knee is as good as gold...so that nullifies the discount

 

[119others]

It’s not my view tho…

It’s the clubs (Port’s) and St Kilda would probably view him in a similar band.

Whitlock, 26 F1 and 25 second rounder for Nas and 3rd and 4th round pick is fair value considering Withlock is treated as a first round pick.

Not sure if actually bring serious. Many of your posters have been ripping into Whitlock who was taken mid second round. He is 4 years off having an AFL body (maybe 5-6 in your "strenth and conditioning department").

He has significantly underwhelmed in the SANFL and had a grand total of 3 possessions in his first AFL game where fans bemoaned his "scaredy cat" approach trying to mark the ball.

If you want to see what a genuine first round key forward looks like check out 19 year old, Riley Thilthorpe, ripping a game apart with towering contested marks and snagging FIVE (5) goals on DEBUT

Whitlock would be lucky to still be worth his mid second round draft value

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Not sure if actually bring serious. Many of your posters have been ripping into Whitlock who was taken mid second round. He is 4 years off having an AFL body (maybe 5-6 in your "strenth and conditioning department").

He has significantly underwhelmed in the SANFL and had a grand total of 3 possessions in his first AFL game where fans bemoaned his "scaredy cat" approach trying to mark the ball.

If you want to see what a genuine first round key forward looks like check out 19 year old, Riley Thilthorpe, ripping a game apart with towering contested marks and snagging FIVE (5) goals on DEBUT

Whitlock would be lucky to still be worth his mid second round draft value

I didnt even look him up, has Whitlock been shit at SANFL?

 

[stavro#4]

Yah but the other knee is as good as gold...so that nullifies the discount

 

[119others]

I still think Bergman is a chance in any deal

I admit Berg AND 1 good first rounder and either Berry (Whitlock) at least isn't getting laughed at

 

[Portwrld]

He's just about the most valuable player in the game, if the raw picks in compromised drafts are all over 10, I'd expect 3 firsts. When we were a sniff at Kozzie I expected Freo to have to give up all 3 firsts we had access to (and that was before he'd played a game this year and exploded). Not all firsts are equal.

Also, you are posting on here as your view, I dont know why you keep deflecting that.

When trading for elite, the club will want it's best shot at elite talent to replace him - that's a guaranteed top 10 pick as the starting point. Whitlock and future 1sts are not guaranteed but could probably be used together to get into the top 10. That's your starting point where at least discussions can be had on what else is needed.

I keep deflecting from that because my view of this is completely different to that of how the club views things.

I’m basing my points from what our itks are saying tho.

Theirs a big difference between the way I personally view things and how the club does.

Which I’ve already stated a couple weeks back how I personally believe a deal can be done that’s fair, imo.

Don’t know why I’ve gotta justify things.

 

[stavro#4]

I keep deflecting from that because my view of this is completely different to that of how the club views things.

I’m basing my points from what our itks are saying tho.

Theirs a big difference between the way I personally view things and how the club does.

Which I’ve already stated a couple weeks back how I personally believe a deal can be done that’s fair, imo.

Don’t know why I’ve gotta justify things.

If your club genuinely believes that rubbish. He isn’t getting to port

 

[119others]

Starters this is not my opinion I’m only basing things of what the club views Withlock as.

It’s always been viewed as Nas will leave St Kilda for 2 firsts and Victorian media plus Saints supporters are pushing for 3x firsts.

Well St Kilda aren’t getting 3x first for him that’s not happening.

So that why I’m mentioning things in this manner.

Well thankfully for the Saints we outbid you and offer 3 x firsts AND 2 starting players. A deal Port, even if they could afford to match, wouldn't be prepared to as they are trying to RIP the Saints off

 

[Portwrld]

Well thankfully for the Saints we outbid you and offer 3 x firsts AND 2 starting players. A deal Port, even if they could afford to match, wouldn't be prepared to as they are trying to RIP the Saints off

Really….

Yet by all reports say the different between us and your club tho

 

[119others]

I think and Chewy316 can correct me.

When we drafted Jack we would him as someone who should of been taken in the first round and picked up a gem that fell down to 33.

I’m given a view of how Jason Cripps and CD might view things.

This is certainly not my view on what’s nas is worth tho.

You do realise every desperate club, esp Port Power historically, tell their gullible supports that the guys they picked up at 33 and 48 were actually rated in their top 5 picks, and they got the "bargain of the century". Only problem is when you go to use that product you see on see it wasn't a bargain after all

How can you believe this shit?

 

[119others]

Really….

Yet by all reports say the different between us and your club tho

Sorry mate, genuinely not sure what this one means.

 

[Portwrld]

You do realise every desperate club, esp Port Power historically, tell their gullible supports that the guys they picked up at 33 and 48 were actually rated in their top 5 picks, and they got the "bargain of the century". Only problem is when you go to use that product you see on see it wasn't a bargain after all

How can you believe this shit?

- “Believe”

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I keep deflecting from that because my view of this is completely different to that of how the club views things.

I’m basing my points from what our itks are saying tho.

Theirs a big difference between the way I personally view things and how the club does.

Which I’ve already stated a couple weeks back how I personally believe a deal can be done that’s fair, imo.

Don’t know why I’ve gotta justify things.

Man look, i think putting stock in anything a BF ITK poster says about how a player is valued in their own club, yet alone another club is just not a good idea. There is about 10 people on the planet that actually know how Port truly value Whitlock at this stage and I'm pretty positive St Kilda will not have the same view anyway which makes it all redundant.

 

[Portwrld]

Sorry mate, genuinely not sure what this one means.

Cal Twomey and Jon Ralph (yes I know)

Have said “Port are the frontrunners for nas” and Port is confident.

 

[Young Gun #6]

It’s also been viewed that the saints will need great picks in return. Future picks they are not.

Tasmania picks definitely not.

They are picks in a draft you can place a value on them.

It is quite strange you so behemently want a pick in this draft only.

You don't want a draft pick in 2026 as it will take too long to develop, even though it is less compromised than this current draft and is so much better talent wise.
You don't want 2027 picks (understandable given Tassie issue)
Your club has basically said from all reports it doesn't want players anyway and much prefers picks.

So you purely want 3 good first round picks in one of the weakest draft classes of all time. Recruiters basically identified players going 20+ in the most recent gone draft would be going top 5-10 in this 2025 draft. There are about 2-3 non academy/father son players that would go top 10-15 in any other draft. It's that weak.

I fully understand not wanting 2027 picks due to Tassie being involved but either you have absolutely no awareness to the draft crop year to year, or all your posts are just super facetious wanting multiple first round picks in the clear weakest draft class of the last few years. Especially, when you compare it to a less compromised, super draft crop of 2026.

You can say all you like about drafts not being accurate but that is why so many teams traded out picks in the 2025 draft. 2025 is seen as one of the weakest open drafts in recent memory and 2026 is looking like an elite draft.

Recruiters are pretty on the money draft wise when the kids hit 16+. They project fairly well to the depth and top end talent of draft classes 2 years out and this year's draft, as is following up when looking at the projected top 10 at the moment is from all reports extremely weak.

The taking much worse talent in a poor draft and being able to develop worse quality players quicker compared to waiting 12 months for a super draft crop of elite talent makes no sense.

 

[phantom13]

I keep deflecting from that because my view of this is completely different to that of how the club views things.

I’m basing my points from what our itks are saying tho.

Theirs a big difference between the way I personally view things and how the club does.

Which I’ve already stated a couple weeks back how I personally believe a deal can be done that’s fair, imo.

Don’t know why I’ve gotta justify things.

Your ITKs, the club, you, whatever, doesnt ****ing matter.

If any of the above wanna claim Whitlock is a first rounder then youre all delusional. He wasnt drafted in the first round, he hasnt shown anyone that he is worth a first rounder. If hes a discussion for Nas its as steak knives not as a discount on a first or player.

 

[Portwrld]

Your ITKs, the club, you, whatever, doesnt ****ing matter.

If any of the above wanna claim Whitlock is a first rounder then youre all delusional. He wasnt drafted in the first round, he hasnt shown anyone that he is worth a first rounder. If hes a discussion for Nas its as steak knives not as a discount on a first or player.

Look, all I’ll say is this:

Whatever anyone saids if nas does want to be traded to us. Jack Withlock will be apart of this trade and whether that’s to your club or other club.

A deal will be deal and regardless of what’s happened your not getting what you believe as “fair” compo for him and in the same way we didn’t for Houston.

 

[stavro#4]

It is quite strange you so behemently want a pick in this draft only.

You don't want a draft pick in 2026 as it will take too long to develop, even though it is less compromised than this current draft and is so much better talent wise.
You don't want 2027 picks (understandable given Tassie issue)
Your club has basically said from all reports it doesn't want players anyway and much prefers picks.

So you purely want 3 good first round picks in one of the weakest draft classes of all time. Recruiters basically identified players going 20+ in the most recent gone draft would be going top 5-10 in this 2025 draft. There are about 2-3 non academy/father son players that would go top 10-15 in any other draft. It's that weak.

I fully understand not wanting 2027 picks due to Tassie being involved but either you have absolutely no awareness to the draft crop year to year, or all your posts are just super facetious wanting multiple first round picks in the clear weakest draft class of the last few years. Especially, when you compare it to a less compromised, super draft crop of 2026.

You can say all you like about drafts not being accurate but that is why so many teams traded out picks in the 2025 draft. 2025 is seen as one of the weakest open drafts in recent memory and 2026 is looking like an elite draft.

Recruiters are pretty on the money draft wise when the kids hit 16+. They project fairly well to the depth and top end talent of draft classes 2 years out and this year's draft, as is following up when looking at the projected top 10 at the moment is from all reports extremely weak.

The taking much worse talent in a poor draft and being able to develop worse quality players quicker compared to waiting 12 months for a super draft crop of elite talent makes no sense.

Every draft has massive wins in the first round. That’s likely where the magic happens.

You have no control over your 2026 pick and thus it’s not appealing. Who’s to say those kids don’t come on - or injuries wreck havoc to the draft crop.

For example, in the first round of the 2016 draft - which is often highlighted as a terrible draft. It still had:

Taranto
Mcluggage
English
Simpkin
Florent
Hayward
SPP

Etc

Not saying they are all guns. But there is talent. Which is why you should never buy into snap judgements.

Look at 2020 with Covid. A year where a number of kids couldn’t get on the park. In that draft as a whole, it still had:

Thilthorpe
JUH
Gulden
McDonald - who had a bounty on his head from wa clubs
Holmes
Neale

 

[stavro#4]

Look, all I’ll say is this:

Whatever anyone saids if nas does want to be traded to us. Jack Withlock will be apart of this trade and whether that’s to your club or other club.

A deal will be deal and regardless of what’s happened your not getting what you believe as “fair” compo for him and in the same way we didn’t for Houston.

You got a first round pick (Berry)
A player rated as a FRP from GC.
Other picks and players.