Nathan Brown

[Seeks]

Is he really up to it?

Drafted as a quick All-Australian Full Back and has shown a bit early on.

Another question.....
When he gets the ball does he only kick it as long and as high as possible?

I think he has massive ability/potential but when he gets it (although he is quite good by hand) why does he smash it as long as possible?

 

[skeetz]

OMG pfft almost the worst off-season thread so far.
The guy is 21 yrs old. He had a bit of a hard time playing out a season. He is a BIG BIG boy and he wasnt quite up to playing out a whole season. Not hard to understand. He is taking longer than 1 season to be a first 22 player.

Total gun.

 

[knightwheelrqr]

Physically he is "now" ready.

Likewise Ben Reid.

Key position players don't always come ready made and often take years to develop as we have experienced with Wood who has taken 4 years to develop into an AFL quality player.

I expect both Brown and Reid to surpass L.Brown this year, and hope they both become regulars in the starting 22. Even if it means that Reid plays on a back flank or as an extra man in defence.

Brown assumed Prestigiacomo remains healthy should hold down centre half back no problem. Showed some very promising signs in 2008, and I expect that he has built on that since.

 

[Mansons Haircut]

Time will tell but compared to other elite key defenders (Scarlett, Lake, Presti, Michael, Leppitch, Glass etc) at the same age he is streets ahead. Very hard gig being an AFL KPD and he is tracking along nicely IMO. Will he take the next step in coming years??? Dont know tbh but compared to his peers it looks likely.

 

[King Woodie]

Physically he is "now" ready.

Likewise Ben Reid.

Key position players don't always come ready made and often take years to develop as we have experienced with Wood who has taken 4 years to develop into an AFL quality player.

I expect both Brown and Reid to surpass L.Brown this year, and hope they both become regulars in the starting 22. Even if it means that Reid plays on a back flank or as an extra man in defence.

Brown assumed Prestigiacomo remains healthy should hold down centre half back no problem. Showed some very promising signs in 2008, and I expect that he has built on that since.

Extra man in defence isn't a position, it is a tactic that is used in some games (or in some stages in games). The player must have a position to start with, and will always have an opposite player accountability. Most teams do no allow the tactic, anyway, and simply move their own spare player to man him up. Otherwise Maxwell would always be our "extra man in defence".

I am not sure he is agile enough to play on a half back flank - and even so, who of Maxwell, O'Brien, and Shaw would you replace for Reid. Toovey is a role player on the dangerous small, and couldn't be replaced with Reid.

In my opinion he will need to come into the side as an attacking key position defender, as I don't think he will be the best option against the smaller quicker flanks and pockets.

I also agree though that they will both hopefully pass Leigh Brown in the pecking order. Thanks for your great service last year, Leigh, but if we are to move forward we need the young guys to come up.

 

[Porkaspies09]

yep, hes a gun and one of my favourites, hes a big boy for his age, i would like to see him tryed at FF for a couple of games, I know hes awesome at FB but wouldnt hurt to try it.
But anyway he is a gun whateva position he plays, and cant wait to see him back this year after being injured.

 

[TradeDraft]

OMG pfft almost the worst off-season thread so far.
The guy is 21 yrs old. He had a bit of a hard time playing out a season. He is a BIG BIG boy and he wasnt quite up to playing out a whole season. Not hard to understand. He is taking longer than 1 season to be a first 22 player.

Total gun.

Agreed - Did you watch him Last Season, He did not play much this season because he was Injured.

OP do you even Follow the Pies?

 

[Gary2010]

Is there a harder caper to learn than fullback?

Considering you'll be playing on a Fevola or Franklin one week then Jonathon Brown or Tippett the next.

The more time he spends with Presty the better, he's not really suited to CHB but not ready for FB yet either so Presty's resurrection has been a godsend.

One day he will be at FB and Reid hopefully will take CHB and we will have the perfect foil for a goal square gorilla and a mobile CHF which appears to be the modern forward structure.

 

[mattys123]

Is there a harder caper to learn than fullback?

Maybe CHF, but you could argue over either position being the hardest to "perfect".

Most full backs take years of development both physically and mentally to reach the level that the top FB's are at the moment.

Dustin Fletcher used to get smashed by Sav Rocca and other Full Forwards in the 90's, yet by the time the 2000's came around, he was a top defender, rarely beaten by the best.

You could say something similar about Mal Michael, Matthew Scarlett and even Stephen Silvagni, who was a forward at the beginning of his career.

Brown is coming along "ok" at the moment, the next 2 years are big for him, but I can see him forming a Scarlett/Harley type relationship with Ben Reid which will be the cornerstone of our defense for a decade.

We have to play both Reid and Brown in Key Defensive positions more this year, even if it costs us a game or two at AFL level, as the future development "gains" will far outweigh 1-2 losses.

And let's face it, who else do we have to play on Franklin, Riewoldt, Hawkins or Tippett, as Presti showed in the finals (no Franklin obv) these players are too agile and quick for him.

 

[TradeDraft]

Maybe CHF, but you could argue over either position being the hardest to "perfect".

Most full backs take years of development both physically and mentally to reach the level that the top FB's are at the moment.

Dustin Fletcher used to get smashed by Sav Rocca and other Full Forwards in the 90's, yet by the time the 2000's came around, he was a top defender, rarely beaten by the best.

You could say something similar about Mal Michael, Matthew Scarlett and even Stephen Silvagni, who was a forward at the beginning of his career.

Brown is coming along "ok" at the moment, the next 2 years are big for him, but I can see him forming a Scarlett/Harley type relationship with Ben Reid which will be the cornerstone of our defense for a decade.

We have to play both Reid and Brown in Key Defensive positions more this year, even if it costs us a game or two at AFL level, as the future development "gains" will far outweigh 1-2 losses.

Think they could be better then Scarlett/Harley - Not bad to get our CHB and FB in 2 pick of the same draft

 

[Dawson]

I think he has massive ability/potential but when he gets it (although he is quite good by hand) why does he smash it as long as possible?

Maybe its what the Coach has told him to do

 

[TradeDraft]

Maybe its what the Coach has told him to do

Spot On FB just needs to get the Ball Forward - Better then Presti who never touches the ball

 

[mattys123]

Think they could be better then Scarlett/Harley - Not bad to get our CHB and FB in 2 pick of the same draft

Well Scarlett/Harley were one of the main reasons why Geelong won 2 flags, so even If Brown/Reid are only half as good, it means we will get at least 1 flag out of them.

I'd take that.

 

[Soul_Pie]

Maybe CHF, but you could argue over either position being the hardest to "perfect".

Most full backs take years of development both physically and mentally to reach the level that the top FB's are at the moment.

Dustin Fletcher used to get smashed by Sav Rocca and other Full Forwards in the 90's, yet by the time the 2000's came around, he was a top defender, rarely beaten by the best.

You could say something similar about Mal Michael, Matthew Scarlett and even Stephen Silvagni, who was a forward at the beginning of his career.

Brown is coming along "ok" at the moment, the next 2 years are big for him, but I can see him forming a Scarlett/Harley type relationship with Ben Reid which will be the cornerstone of our defense for a decade.

We have to play both Reid and Brown in Key Defensive positions more this year, even if it costs us a game or two at AFL level, as the future development "gains" will far outweigh 1-2 losses.

And let's face it, who else do we have to play on Franklin, Riewoldt, Hawkins or Tippett, as Presti showed in the finals (no Franklin obv) these players are too agile and quick for him.

Excellent post. I seem to remember Mal Michael getting absolutely destroyed early in his career, and he turned out to be an exceptional player. Nathan Brown has been towelled up a couple of times by some very good players in Riewoldt and Fev, but overall he has performed admirably for a young key position player who had great responsibility thrust upon him very early. He struggled last year with injuries and alike, but hopefully with a full pre-season he can get back into the team.

He does need to work a bit on his decision making with the ball in his hands, he tends to try and bite off more than he can chew by trying to nail 50 metre passes every time which just tend to go sky high. He just needs to take a second to slow and choose the correct option, but once again this kind of thing will come with experience.

I still have high hopes for the young bloke.

 

[Thommo 42]

Spot On FB just needs to get the Ball Forward - Better then Presti who never touches the ball

stupid stupid stupid

 

[FredNerk69]

You just need to read side by side to see how much the CFC value Brown. I am more than happy in the way he is developing. He will be a gun for years for us. Not too many 20 - 21 year olds doing as well as he did in a key defensive post in the last 20 to 30 years.

 

[TradeDraft]

stupid stupid stupid

I am not saying he is better then Presti but I am saying N Brown gets more of the Ball and Has good Speed for Reboudning then Presti.

Kind of reminds me of Scarlett with Poorer Disposal

 

[King Woodie]

Maybe CHF, but you could argue over either position being the hardest to "perfect".

Most full backs take years of development both physically and mentally to reach the level that the top FB's are at the moment.

Dustin Fletcher used to get smashed by Sav Rocca and other Full Forwards in the 90's, yet by the time the 2000's came around, he was a top defender, rarely beaten by the best.

You could say something similar about Mal Michael, Matthew Scarlett and even Stephen Silvagni, who was a forward at the beginning of his career.

Brown is coming along "ok" at the moment, the next 2 years are big for him, but I can see him forming a Scarlett/Harley type relationship with Ben Reid which will be the cornerstone of our defense for a decade.

We have to play both Reid and Brown in Key Defensive positions more this year, even if it costs us a game or two at AFL level, as the future development "gains" will far outweigh 1-2 losses.

And let's face it, who else do we have to play on Franklin, Riewoldt, Hawkins or Tippett, as Presti showed in the finals (no Franklin obv) these players are too agile and quick for him.

This absolutely will not happen if it will be seen to cost us "1 or 2 games"...

In a year where we are such solid contenders, and have such a need to finish top four in a tough draw year, there is no way MM would say (for one of his last two seasons as coach) "It doesn't matter if we drop a game here or there, as long as Ben Reid learnt something". This happens for bottom 6 clubs, not contenders.

 

[HFF]

Browny is coming alone fine.

One of the best young key defenders in the game.

2009 was a rough year for him, particularly with his knee injury that kept him out of the senior side.

Is in our best 22.

 

[NatheM]

Massive talent who oozes potential

 

[dswan]

Browny is coming alone fine.

One of the best young key defenders in the game.

2009 was a rough year for him, particularly with his knee injury that kept him out of the senior side.

Is in our best 22.

Impossible. He doesnt get a game atm.

 

[danielnajdek]

Easily in our best 22 when fit. Whoever says he's not don't have a clue. He smashed Roughhead in a game last year until he hurt his knee and never recovered fully from then on. As for him and Benny being like Scarlett/Harley I think we need to see how Ben goes this year before we start throwing around comparisons like that. Would be happy if they could even be half as good as Harley and Scarlett have been for the Cats.

 

[OniAu]

better than expected first season

second season was playing some ok footy , then started to finaly hit some real good form and got injured.

Will be a player , people just forget what hes done already in the space of two years playing at the highest level.

 

[magpiewarrior]

better than expected first season

second season was playing some ok footy , then started to finaly hit some real good form and got injured.

Will be a player , people just forget what hes done already in the space of two years playing at the highest level.

It's hardly surprising that people forget what he has already done, after all some of these people are the same ones calling for Cloke to be traded "while we can still get something for him". If they can be talking about discarding a kid that has already won a Copeland Trophey what chance does Nathan Brown have. Simply beating the likes of Fev, Jono Brown, Mathew Lloyd, Barry Hall (all in his first few AFL games) obviously doesn't prove anything.

 

[daics_35]

I am not a fan of him as a defender however i think he could play forward and Rusling could go in deffence because he is alot quiker then Brown and he is also big. I think Brown is better at leading then shutting down forwards so if he is successfull in moving in the forward line and Rusling is moving in the backline that would be a lot better for us then the Brown in deffence and rus up forward.