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[Bulldogs85]

Pacific Island talent part of possible NGA changes

The League is weighing up expanding Next Gen Academy changes to include Pacific island countries such as Tonga, Samoa, Fiji and Papua New Guinea

www.afl.com.au

EXPANDED access to draft hopefuls from Pacific islands is being considered by the AFL as part of the future of Next Generation Academies.

As AFL.com.au revealed last month, the League has been reviewing the Next Generation Academy eligibility and criteria and has met with clubs after they submitted feedback on the program.

It has led to one option being to open up more NGA access for draft prospects who have ties to Pacific island countries - such as Tonga, Samoa, Fiji and Papua New Guinea - to be eligible to clubs under the system.

Under the current system, NGA talents have largely been deemed eligible based on their Indigenous background or Asian or African descent.
Clubs are aware that the League is weighing up expanding that to include the Pacific island countries as well as they search through ways to promote more opportunities for players from different communities and backgrounds to enter the game.

It would mean a player such as North Melbourne sharpshooter Paul Curtis, whose mother is Tongan and represented the country in netball, could have been available as a NGA player for the Western Bulldogs, given he was in the Western Jets' zone in his draft year in 2021.
The League's discussions around the rule would be unlikely to change access to prospects in this year's draft.

Dandenong Stingrays tall forward Tairon Ah-Mu, who is of Samoan descent, is in Melbourne's NGA zone but has not been a part of the Dees' Academy under the League's criteria. But the potential opening up of further access to the Oceanic countries as zones could benefit the Demons down the track, with his younger brother Corey, who is in the under-16 level this year, shaping as a talent for the 2027 draft pool.
As part of a summer AFL memo, clubs were asked to give feedback on which area/s of their existing NGA zones they would like to retain and also to pitch for other area/s outside of their existing zone they would like to obtain.

The review will cover the zones, which need to be restructured due to North Melbourne losing hold of Tasmania with the Devils' arrival in the AFL, plus eligibility criteria, concession access requirements and a transition period to the changes.

 

[weltschmerz]

Pacific Island talent part of possible NGA changes

The League is weighing up expanding Next Gen Academy changes to include Pacific island countries such as Tonga, Samoa, Fiji and Papua New Guinea

www.afl.com.au

EXPANDED access to draft hopefuls from Pacific islands is being considered by the AFL as part of the future of Next Generation Academies.

As AFL.com.au revealed last month, the League has been reviewing the Next Generation Academy eligibility and criteria and has met with clubs after they submitted feedback on the program.

It has led to one option being to open up more NGA access for draft prospects who have ties to Pacific island countries - such as Tonga, Samoa, Fiji and Papua New Guinea - to be eligible to clubs under the system.

Under the current system, NGA talents have largely been deemed eligible based on their Indigenous background or Asian or African descent.
Clubs are aware that the League is weighing up expanding that to include the Pacific island countries as well as they search through ways to promote more opportunities for players from different communities and backgrounds to enter the game.

It would mean a player such as North Melbourne sharpshooter Paul Curtis, whose mother is Tongan and represented the country in netball, could have been available as a NGA player for the Western Bulldogs, given he was in the Western Jets' zone in his draft year in 2021.
The League's discussions around the rule would be unlikely to change access to prospects in this year's draft.

Dandenong Stingrays tall forward Tairon Ah-Mu, who is of Samoan descent, is in Melbourne's NGA zone but has not been a part of the Dees' Academy under the League's criteria. But the potential opening up of further access to the Oceanic countries as zones could benefit the Demons down the track, with his younger brother Corey, who is in the under-16 level this year, shaping as a talent for the 2027 draft pool.
As part of a summer AFL memo, clubs were asked to give feedback on which area/s of their existing NGA zones they would like to retain and also to pitch for other area/s outside of their existing zone they would like to obtain.

The review will cover the zones, which need to be restructured due to North Melbourne losing hold of Tasmania with the Devils' arrival in the AFL, plus eligibility criteria, concession access requirements and a transition period to the changes.

Imagine if we'd gotten Curtis along with Darcy in 2021, the draft's best tall and a top two small forward

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Pacific Island talent part of possible NGA changes

The League is weighing up expanding Next Gen Academy changes to include Pacific island countries such as Tonga, Samoa, Fiji and Papua New Guinea

www.afl.com.au

EXPANDED access to draft hopefuls from Pacific islands is being considered by the AFL as part of the future of Next Generation Academies.

As AFL.com.au revealed last month, the League has been reviewing the Next Generation Academy eligibility and criteria and has met with clubs after they submitted feedback on the program.

It has led to one option being to open up more NGA access for draft prospects who have ties to Pacific island countries - such as Tonga, Samoa, Fiji and Papua New Guinea - to be eligible to clubs under the system.

Under the current system, NGA talents have largely been deemed eligible based on their Indigenous background or Asian or African descent.
Clubs are aware that the League is weighing up expanding that to include the Pacific island countries as well as they search through ways to promote more opportunities for players from different communities and backgrounds to enter the game.

It would mean a player such as North Melbourne sharpshooter Paul Curtis, whose mother is Tongan and represented the country in netball, could have been available as a NGA player for the Western Bulldogs, given he was in the Western Jets' zone in his draft year in 2021.
The League's discussions around the rule would be unlikely to change access to prospects in this year's draft.

Dandenong Stingrays tall forward Tairon Ah-Mu, who is of Samoan descent, is in Melbourne's NGA zone but has not been a part of the Dees' Academy under the League's criteria. But the potential opening up of further access to the Oceanic countries as zones could benefit the Demons down the track, with his younger brother Corey, who is in the under-16 level this year, shaping as a talent for the 2027 draft pool.
As part of a summer AFL memo, clubs were asked to give feedback on which area/s of their existing NGA zones they would like to retain and also to pitch for other area/s outside of their existing zone they would like to obtain.

The review will cover the zones, which need to be restructured due to North Melbourne losing hold of Tasmania with the Devils' arrival in the AFL, plus eligibility criteria, concession access requirements and a transition period to the changes.

It does seem strange that the NGA system, designed to work with families from a multicultural background who might find the whole teenage high-performance system still very Anglo and hard to decipher, does include players whose family are fully white but have a parent who happened to be born in Africa or Asia by complete chance, but doesn't include these Pacific Islanders who are also very much from these multicultural communities. I get there's a risk of not being politically correct but it feels like we should come out and say why the program exists in the first place.

 

[weltschmerz]

It does seem strange that the NGA system, designed to work with families from a multicultural background who might find the whole teenage high-performance system still very Anglo and hard to decipher, does include players whose family are fully white but have a parent who happened to be born in Africa or Asia by complete chance, but doesn't include these Pacific Islanders who are also very much from these multicultural communities. I get there's a risk of not being politically correct but it feels like we should come out and say why the program exists in the first place.

That's the reason Arty Jones wasn't West Coast NGA. He and his family never signed the forms because they weren't really sure why they should.

Cody Raak is a pretty good example of a player who probably shouldn't have been NGA.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

That's the reason Arty Jones wasn't West Coast NGA. He and his family never signed the forms because they weren't really sure why they should.

Cody Raak is a pretty good example of a player who probably shouldn't have been NGA.

And yet you hear stories like Lin Jong who have explained how his Chinese immigrant parents didn't really know how to sign up for a footy club etc. Jong would kick the ball around with his mates and play the state school version of school footy (nothing compared to APS/AGS) until he was 14/15 when his mates convinced him to actually sign up for a club, and within a couple of years he was playing for Oakleigh Chargers. But he's on record in saying that the difficulty of working with his parents who had no cultural familiarity, not just with the sport in general but how the "systems" work if you have talent, like rep squads, when games are played, how long training lasts for etc. That's what it should be designed for. In the Dogs zone someone can get on the phone with parents and lay it all out for them.

 

[VitalDread]

Congrats to the following that made the Under 16's Teams

Western Jets
Koda Hawli
Jamal Hawli
Artisan Sairat

GWV Rebels
Mali Lual
Rout Lual

 

[dogwatch]

Congrats to the following that made the Under 16's Teams

Western Jets
Koda Hawli
Jamal Hawli
Artisan Sairat

GWV Rebels
Mali Lual
Rout Lual

I do appreciate your keeping us posted on these emerging kids VD. Otherwise we'd never hear about them until close to the end of their final U18 year. This way we'll have some context for their draft year. I remember JUH being talked about as a 14 or 15yo so we knew by the time he was drafted that he'd been in our system for a long while.

I know most of these kids will probably just fall short when their draft year comes around but some will also make it. Good to know who might be on our radar.

Do you know if any of these kids have special talents (eg forwards, rucks, speedy wingers)? Or are they still at an early stage of growth & development and still finding their best role?

 

[VitalDread]

I do appreciate your keeping us posted on these emerging kids VD. Otherwise we'd never hear about them until close to the end of their final U18 year. This way we'll have some context for their draft year. I remember JUH being talked about as a 14 or 15yo so we knew by the time he was drafted that he'd been in our system for a long while.

I know most of these kids will probably just fall short when their draft year comes around but some will also make it. Good to know who might be on our radar.

Do you know if any of these kids have special talents (eg forwards, rucks, speedy wingers)? Or are they still at an early stage of growth & development and still finding their best role?

Mali Lual and Artisan Sairat have big upsize

Mali is developing more into a forward than Laumon while Artisan has been a star midfield for a little bit in local footy and community camps

A player not listed in the under 16's is Hok Marial
He kicked 33 goals in 11 games for his under 15's team and was showcased as highly talent at the African x AFL combine
He already taller than Hawks player Jiath (185cm)

 

[Testekill]

Pacific Island talent part of possible NGA changes

The League is weighing up expanding Next Gen Academy changes to include Pacific island countries such as Tonga, Samoa, Fiji and Papua New Guinea

www.afl.com.au

EXPANDED access to draft hopefuls from Pacific islands is being considered by the AFL as part of the future of Next Generation Academies.

As AFL.com.au revealed last month, the League has been reviewing the Next Generation Academy eligibility and criteria and has met with clubs after they submitted feedback on the program.

It has led to one option being to open up more NGA access for draft prospects who have ties to Pacific island countries - such as Tonga, Samoa, Fiji and Papua New Guinea - to be eligible to clubs under the system.

Under the current system, NGA talents have largely been deemed eligible based on their Indigenous background or Asian or African descent.
Clubs are aware that the League is weighing up expanding that to include the Pacific island countries as well as they search through ways to promote more opportunities for players from different communities and backgrounds to enter the game.

It would mean a player such as North Melbourne sharpshooter Paul Curtis, whose mother is Tongan and represented the country in netball, could have been available as a NGA player for the Western Bulldogs, given he was in the Western Jets' zone in his draft year in 2021.
The League's discussions around the rule would be unlikely to change access to prospects in this year's draft.

Dandenong Stingrays tall forward Tairon Ah-Mu, who is of Samoan descent, is in Melbourne's NGA zone but has not been a part of the Dees' Academy under the League's criteria. But the potential opening up of further access to the Oceanic countries as zones could benefit the Demons down the track, with his younger brother Corey, who is in the under-16 level this year, shaping as a talent for the 2027 draft pool.
As part of a summer AFL memo, clubs were asked to give feedback on which area/s of their existing NGA zones they would like to retain and also to pitch for other area/s outside of their existing zone they would like to obtain.

The review will cover the zones, which need to be restructured due to North Melbourne losing hold of Tasmania with the Devils' arrival in the AFL, plus eligibility criteria, concession access requirements and a transition period to the changes.

It is something that does baffle me, Pacific Islanders should be covered by NGA access as well.

 

[Mr. Walker]

It is something that does baffle me, Pacific Islanders should be covered by NGA access as well.

I guess the answer is that no one thought of it. Kids of South American descent probably ask the same question as to why African and Asian heritage is specifically included and they are not. The AFL should make inclusion of as many kids as possible a KPI for a performance bonus payment and an AFL exec will have the issue solved tomorrow!

 

[dogwatch]

I guess the answer is that no one thought of it. Kids of South American descent probably ask the same question as to why African and Asian heritage is specifically included and they are not. The AFL should make inclusion of as many kids as possible a KPI for a performance bonus payment and an AFL exec will have the issue solved tomorrow!

Occam's Razor. The AFL is short-sighted and incompetent.

 

[VitalDread]

Congrats to those named in the Under 18's Western Jets Team

Jacob Bayley
Kobe Williams
Isaac Gawne
Khaled El Souki

 

[JohnnySteel]

Hok Marial eligible for us via NGA this year or next?

Looks to be listed in the Jets team for R1.

 

[VitalDread]

Hok Marial eligible for us via NGA this year or next?

Looks to be listed in the Jets team for R1.

2027 draft ATM

He isn't age listed ATM so once it is
I'll update the correct yet

basing off his local footy age bracket currently

 

[dogwatch]

Hok Marial eligible for us via NGA this year or next?

Looks to be listed in the Jets team for R1.

With a name like that we should expect an early bid from Hawthorn.

 

[Gold Coast Doggies]

2027 draft ATM

He isn't age listed ATM so once it is
I'll update the correct yet

basing off his local footy age bracket currently

So we have both Hok Marial ang Max Darcy both eligible in 2027 draft, great timing with Tassie coming into the competition with a heavily compromised draft

 

[JohnnySteel]

2027 draft ATM

He isn't age listed ATM so once it is
I'll update the correct yet

basing off his local footy age bracket currently

Found this on the Coates app.
Eligible for Next years draft. Great size already.

 

[Mojorisin]

Found this on the Coates app.
Eligible for Next years draft. Great size already.

Seen him play a few times for St. Albans in under 16s if he keeps his currently trajectory he will be a lock for a top 10. Likely pushing high 190s come 2027 aswell.

 

[JohnnySteel]

Seen him play a few times for St. Albans in under 16s if he keeps his currently trajectory he will be a lock for a top 10. Likely pushing high 190s come 2027 aswell.

What’s his likely position?

 

[Mojorisin]

What’s his likely position?

Ive only ever seen him play Key forward.

 

[Mojorisin]

Found this on the Coates app.
Eligible for Next years draft. Great size already.

Done a bit of digging and looks like this is the correct birth date do would be 2026.

 

[dogwatch]

Ive only ever seen him play Key forward.

Oh good. We could use a few more first round draftee KPFs.

 

[Doggy]

Done a bit of digging and looks like this is the correct birth date do would be 2026.

The NGA rules changed didn't they so we'd get him regardless where he was bid on?

Someone check on Danster

 

[Bald]

The NGA rules changed didn't they so we'd get him regardless where he was bid on?

Someone check on Danster

That’s correct.

 

[Doggy]

That’s correct.

The melts will be funny