Rumour Noah Balta assault charges

[Sphynx]

It should be jail worthy though.
Majority of the community would agree I reckon. Justice system is a joke in this country and cowardly acts like this need to be punished accordingly.

If the bloke hits his head on the concrete it's a whole different story.
With this plastered all over the news and social media its an opportunity for a judge to make an example

If he broke his jaw or cheekbone his chances of facing a custodial sentence would have tripled. His average potential sentence would have tripled as well.

Much like the MRP, the law is built around outcomes in a way.

His charge would have been upgraded to GBH if he broke any of the guys bones. The average sentence is almost 2 years for it and there's far less leniency for first time offenders.

 

[tiger_tough]

It should be jail worthy though.
Majority of the community would agree I reckon. Justice system is a joke in this country and cowardly acts like this need to be punished accordingly.

If the bloke hits his head on the concrete it's a whole different story.
With this plastered all over the news and social media its an opportunity for a judge to make an example

I don't disagree with any of that.

They're not going to start here though.

 

[tiger_tough]

Well then I have no idea what "we have no idea if he was proved" means then... Didn't read it slow enough maybe.


A defence tactic much like the (and not suggesting at all in this particular case at all but as a broader statement to most cases in courts for crimes) mental health or drug use of offenders that seems to get them to walk free or a lesser because of a sad story that was told to the judge. You **** up you pay the consequences whether sober, drunk, drugged, sad, happy, angry or whatever.

Meant to say provoked, not proved.

 

[Paul Kersey]

Weak as piss. Ideally he goes down for it. Suspended sentence is my guess though. Gee going to be interesting to see how Richmond deals with it.

 

[Sphynx]

That doesn't mean there was no provocation though, does it?

I find it hard to believe he'd do that for absolutely no reason. For the nuffies lurking - I AM NOT JUSTIFYING WHAT HE DID. Read it slowly.

What you are arguing though will cement his premeditation.

If he was provoked 10 minutes beforehand because they've had words etc, he's then had time to consider his actions, the consequences of what he's about to do and gone and done it. The fact he attacked the guy when defenseless, vulnerable, from behind and pushed him first so he could get on top of him to punch him only proves a certain level of calculation and premeditation.

He then backs out, has a second or two to consider his actions and goes again.

Balta's lawyer would have to argue it was spontaneous during the sentencing submissions. How do you argue that if the provocation was that far beforehand?


Your argument is worse for him. Premeditation is one of the most serious considerations in the judges sentencing.

To be honest, he's probably going to get skewered on both. It looks premediated and he's unlikely to get much love regarding provocation. Especially as the guy almost put his hands up like he didn't want to go on with it.

If the defence can argue that there was mutual intent between his brother and himself to beat up the guy, even if his brother didn't physically do anything. Then it's considered "in the company of others". Which is an aggravating factor in sentencing. Probably +10% to the sentence. It can increase the maximum sentencing thresholds.

 

[NetworkNerd]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/premiership-tiger-faces-potential-jail-time-as-cctv-of-alleged-assault-shown-in-court/news-story/5b698661b8b2266190a3e8c41f904d34

 

[Wargreymon90]

That doesn't mean there was no provocation though, does it?

I find it hard to believe he'd do that for absolutely no reason. For the nuffies lurking - I AM NOT JUSTIFYING WHAT HE DID. Read it slowly.

what provocation would warrant the king hit he did?

The victim was just standing there. even if he was having aggressive words with his younger brother, it still doesn’t justify Balta’s cowardly actions.

There would have had to be imminent danger to his brother, to warrant such a shit act.

 

[Old M8]

theres the backtrack. thank you.

Legally, he's absolutely done the wrong thing has pleaded guilty. No I don't condone him belting random people and if he got jail time I would 100% agree with the sentence. Absolutely zero complaints.

I would like more details before I give a moral opinion though.

Morally, there are absolutely beltings I can turn a blind eye to. My uncle got in David Kings face quite aggressively for no reason at a club in the 90's and should have been belted even by my uncles own admission. Kingy took the high road to his credit, but at the same time I would have turned morally agreed with Kingy if he did flog him.

Thoughts?

Exactly the same thoughts as what I had above. That’s roughly the video I was expecting I’d see.

The offer of him not going to jail for account deletion is absolutely still on the table?

 

[Skinnyfwdpocket]

Absolute disgrace from Balta. 4-week club suspension is light, probably gets extended to 6-8 weeks until our goldfish brains forget about it.

Likely he gets a slap on the wrist, or they make an example out of him (unlikely), no previous record, handed himself in, has sought help and whatever else they can come up with.

Shit outcome as this could've been much worse for the victim but because he is an AFL player in the boy's club it will be lower consequences but contrastingly, only reason there is any coverage and possibly any charges is because he is an AFL player.

People can comment and say he should get the book thrown at him and be kicked out of the AFL given RFC and the AFL have known since February he was pleading guilty to these charges i would also say unlikely.

 

[FuManchu]

Meant to say provoked, not proved.

What was the immediate threat to his safety that MIGHT then justify using force? Provocation really is only a mitigating factor if it also meant a threat to his immediate personal safety.

 

[bzparkes]

That doesn't mean there was no provocation though, does it?

I find it hard to believe he'd do that for absolutely no reason. For the nuffies lurking - I AM NOT JUSTIFYING WHAT HE DID. Read it slowly.

Provocation is irrelevant, which you knew by your preemptive 'nuffies' comment and actual attempt to justify it.

Might as well have said "Look at what he's wearing!"

If he's so fragile some words make him hit a bloke from behind, who wasn't acting aggressively when the action occurred, then jump on him and start punching him in the face, then he shouldn't be allowed out in public.

 

[Bald]

He won't go to jail.

He should be deregistered though.

 

[Tugga27]

I for one, won't be casting any judgement until that voice of reason Aristotle Pickett comes and gives his opinion.
The one who posted that the AFL aren't taking head knocks seriously when Lalor got pushed into another player.

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He then proceeded to character assassinate Reuben Ginbey because he got caught having a leak in public.
Said he was "of bad character".

His last comment on Balta was.
On Jan 2, 2025 Aristotle Pickett said:

"He snotted a 27yo male at the Mulwala Water Ski Club in NSW.

Reading between the lines, some guy has put women and children in danger by boating too close to people. Noah has had a word to him, the guy has attacked Noah and Noah has snotted him.
So all good."

Again, holding judgement until the people's champion comes and gives us his considered opinion.

 

[Strange Cat]

Yeah it's a shithouse act and I thought he was better than that.

Not jail worthy though.

If you are unable to control yourself in public that you need to run up and push a bloke over and start punching him on the ground then go for seconds when pulled off him

You’re a danger to the public and should be facing goal time…will he get that …no

Very very lucky he didn’t smash his head on the concrete with that push alone then it would be a very different conversation

 

[Strange Cat]

That doesn't mean there was no provocation though, does it?

I find it hard to believe he'd do that for absolutely no reason. For the nuffies lurking - I AM NOT JUSTIFYING WHAT HE DID. Read it slowly.

provocation is not a justification for assualt in the eyes of the law…from the look of that video it does look more premeditated than provoked

Only defense to something like that would be self defense and Balta doesn’t look like he was in immediate danger .

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

A metro scout told me a few years ago that Balta was one of the biggest dickheads to come through his region. Makes sense.

 

[Tugga27]

I wonder if it was Harry Halfback Flanker who did this and not a player of Balta's standing, would Richmond have sacked him as yet.

 

[FuManchu]

provocation Is a justification for assualt in the eyes of the law

It’s a mitigating factor, but a lot less so if there is no immediate threat to your personal safety. And if you have the option to walk away, which clearly he did, then it’s really not a defence.

 

[ringofshiel]

word is he was standing up for his brother who was getting confronted by the man balta assaulted

 

[bzparkes]

ridiculous if the CFL charges him. if you watch the real footage (not the fake one that's gone around now) it's clear that Balta never swung at him, and infact the "victim" walked into his fist.

Wouldn't have been arrested if it was at the MCG.

 

[Strange Cat]

It’s a mitigating factor, but a lot less so if there is no immediate threat to your personal safety. And if you have the option to walk away, which clearly he did, then it’s really not a defence.

Meant to write isn’t and I have edited the post to say it looked more premeditated than provoked

 

[jannissary]

Wouldn't have been arrested if it was at the MCG.

too true m8, this is pure vicbias at play

 

[tiger_tough]

provocation is not a justification for assualt in the eyes of the law…from the look of that video it does look more premeditated than provoked

Only defense to something like that would be self defense and Balta doesn’t look like he was in immediate danger .

Fair enough. The post I was replying to said the video showed there was no provocation. All I'm saying is that's not necessarily true.

 

[tiger_tough]

What was the immediate threat to his safety that MIGHT then justify using force? Provocation really is only a mitigating factor if it also meant a threat to his immediate personal safety.

Sorry, who said it was justified?

 

[Strange Cat]

Fair enough. The post I was replying to said the video showed there was no provocation. All I'm saying is that's not necessarily true.

Even with provocation unless it was self defense why can’t you walk away? Fighting in the streets over words is beyond ****ing stupid and not worth it..the fact that he ran up to assualt someone showed he was far removed from the situation that it was unnecessary