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ttomred17 · Jun 16, 2015

fpcookie said:
uh huh.

I get it you Lakers fans want to defend Kobe's legacy but let's not pretend you have any shred of objectivity in your opinions....

MJ and Shaq both have said they would pick Bryant over LBJ. Id take their opinions over anyone else's.

mambavino · Jun 16, 2015

ttomred17 said:
MJ and Shaq both have said they would pick Bryant over LBJ. Id take their opinions over anyone else's.

As has Larry Bird. He's said he'd play with Kobe to win, and Lebron to have fun.

I would say that opinion must be fairly objective given he's a legend of the Lakers arch rivals.

To me, Kobe has a level of drive and determination that is similar to MJ, that Lebron doesn't have purely because of his personality.

immortalmike · Jun 16, 2015

As a Bulls fan I have no problems telling anyone that'll listen that Kobe and Shaq were the best two players since Jordan from a dominance perspective. Lebron loses from the perspective of intangibles, just not good enough when he's needed i.e., the last part of games.

The_Flying_Egg · Jun 16, 2015

Mutt said:
Yeah you hear that all the time from people who know the game............

How can u roll your eyes like its no contest???

Same amount of titles ...

Duncan - best player on 4 title teams
Kobe - best player on 2

Duncan - 2 MVP's
Kobe - 1

Duncan - 3 Finals MVP's
Kobe - 2

Duncan - never missed playoffs
Kobe - missed playoffs 3 times

Duncan - ultimate team-mate, players want to play with him
Kobe - selfish egomaniac who drove away Shaq and at one stage Phil Jackson, bullies less talented team-mates

Duncan - plays for less than max so they can attract team-mates
Kobe - highest paid player in the league while inefficientally chucking on lottery team

Duncan - still playing for titles
Bryant - playing for points

Duncan - 0 off court distractions
Bryant - where do I start??

ttomred17 said:
MJ and Shaq both have said they would pick Bryant over LBJ. Id take their opinions over anyone else's.

Jordan also selected Kwame Brown with a number 1 pick ... Adam Morrison with pick 3 ... better player than judge of talent. Who do you think coaches and players would rather have had on their team?

Mutt said:
Right.

Solid argument

Dav1d · Jun 16, 2015

VitalDread said:
E3 god damn it
all of my money

E3, how smug did some of the game developers sound?
well the Bethesda ones did anyway

I'm surprised they are making a second Dishonored; didn't think that it was that big, I liked it

immortalmike · Jun 16, 2015

Dav1d said:
E3, how smug did some of the game developers sound?
well the Bethesda ones did anyway

I'm surprised they are making a second Dishonored; didn't think that it was that big, I liked it

Loved the first, absolutely pumped for the sequel.
Developers are always smug, well except for Nintendo, those guys just like presenting quirky fun shit in weirdly nerdy borderline embarrassing ways.

Dav1d · Jun 16, 2015

immortalmike said:
Loved the first, absolutely pumped for the sequel.
Developers are always smug, well except for Nintendo, those guys just like presenting quirky fun shit in weirdly nerdy borderline embarrassing ways.

I ended up grabbing it because it reminded me of Thief and I never had the chance to play that

also Hitman, but I played that & own most of those

One game that Fallout 4 reminded of was RAGE, not sure if you've played that before?
But I mean the way that the towns look, the big busy towns

ttomred17 · Jun 16, 2015

The_Flying_Egg said:
How can u roll your eyes like its no contest???

Same amount of titles ...

Duncan - best player on 4 title teams
Kobe - best player on 2

Duncan - 2 MVP's
Kobe - 1

Duncan - 3 Finals MVP's
Kobe - 2

Duncan - never missed playoffs
Kobe - missed playoffs 3 times

Duncan - ultimate team-mate, players want to play with him
Kobe - selfish egomaniac who drove away Shaq and at one stage Phil Jackson, bullies less talented team-mates

Duncan - plays for less than max so they can attract team-mates
Kobe - highest paid player in the league while inefficientally chucking on lottery team

Duncan - still playing for titles
Bryant - playing for points

Duncan - 0 off court distractions
Bryant - where do I start??

Jordan also selected Kwame Brown with a number 1 pick ... Adam Morrison with pick 3 ... better player than judge of talent. Who do you think coaches and players would rather have had on their team?

Solid argument

I love Tim Duncan, he is absolute quality. Has always had excellent chemistry with his team mates and a strong relationship with his coaches. But there is no way you can keep a straight face when saying you would take him over Bryant.

fronkalicious · Jun 16, 2015

ttomred17 said:
I love Tim Duncan, he is absolute quality. Has always had excellent chemistry with his team mates and a strong relationship with his coaches. But there is no way you can keep a straight face when saying you would take him over Bryant.

Prime Duncan over prime Kobe all day. Defense matters.

The_Flying_Egg · Jun 16, 2015

ttomred17 said:
I love Tim Duncan, he is absolute quality. Has always had excellent chemistry with his team mates and a strong relationship with his coaches. But there is no way you can keep a straight face when saying you would take him over Bryant.

Bryants a freak and I understand that people rate him highly, he's been unbelievably good

But how can you not think its even a contest after everything Duncan has done?? That I don't understand. Asking me how I can keep a straight face saying Duncan is better???

Check out his resume

ttomred17 · Jun 16, 2015

fronkalicious said:
Prime Duncan over prime Kobe all day. Defense matters.

Mate! Kobe has made the All-Defensive team 12 times! Only 3 less than TD. Look at some of his lockdown D YouTube clips. Freak.

fronkalicious · Jun 16, 2015

ttomred17 said:
Mate! Kobe has made the All-Defensive team 12 times! Only 3 less than TD. Look at some of his lockdown D YouTube clips. Freak.

Kobe could lock down a player, no doubt. But Duncan's D effected all 5 guys on the court. Splitting hairs really. Both all time legends, and I'm a big fan of both.

ttomred17 · Jun 16, 2015

fronkalicious said:
Kobe could lock down a player, no doubt. But Duncan's D effected all 5 guys on the court. Splitting hairs really. Both all time legends, and I'm a big fan of both.

Yeah good call, really wanted TD to get another ring this year, more than anyone. The western conference is just silly good. LBJ has such an easy road each year it annoys me

fronkalicious · Jun 16, 2015

ttomred17 said:
Yeah good call, really wanted TD to get another ring this year, more than anyone. The western conference is just silly good. LBJ has such an easy road each year it annoys me

Not to worry. The dubs will end it for him tomorrow.

immortalmike · Jun 16, 2015

Dav1d said:
I ended up grabbing it because it reminded me of Thief and I never had the chance to play that
also Hitman, but I played that & own most of those

One game that Fallout 4 reminded of was RAGE, not sure if you've played that before?
But I mean the way that the towns look, the big busy towns

Rage was pretty terrible. Looked great but was just kind of boring. Fallout 4 will be much better.
Really looking forward to FF VII remake, Shenmue 3, and Rare Replay. Some cool looking stuff coming out too.

Dav1d · Jun 17, 2015

immortalmike said:
Rage was pretty terrible. Looked great but was just kind of boring. Fallout 4 will be much better.
Really looking forward to FF VII remake, Shenmue 3, and Rare Replay. Some cool looking stuff coming out too.

Wait wait
Shenmue 3 is coming out....for real?

& I like RAGE, well the Wingsticks
story was horrible, as were the boss fights

ThirdLegUp · Jun 17, 2015

Witcher 3... finished it...why can't i stop... help me stop

Dav1d · Jun 17, 2015

ThirdLegUp said:
Witcher 3... finished it...why can't i stop... help me stop

http://www.twitch.tv/directory

go watch some games instead, it's what I do

Dav1d · Jun 17, 2015

The_Flying_Egg said:
Bryants a freak and I understand that people rate him highly, he's been unbelievably good

But how can you not think its even a contest after everything Duncan has done?? That I don't understand. Asking me how I can keep a straight face saying Duncan is better??? Check out his resume

http://www.landofbasketball.com/player_comparison/b/kobe_bryant_vs_tim_duncan.htm

here are the numbers for you

BEaston · Jun 17, 2015

I would take Duncan over Kobe EASILY. straight face and all (mine and his)

fronkalicious · Jun 17, 2015

Nervous

VitalDread · Jun 17, 2015

fronkalicious said:
Nervous

Will you get a tattoo if you win today?

immortalmike · Jun 17, 2015

Dav1d said:
Wait wait
Shenmue 3 is coming out....for real?

& I like RAGE, well the Wingsticks
story was horrible, as were the boss fights

Yeah it started as a Kickstarter, reached its goal in a couple of hours now Sony is funding the rest.

Rage was very meh for me but fair enough.

Dav1d · Jun 17, 2015

immortalmike said:
Yeah it started as a Kickstarter, reached its goal in a couple of hours now Sony is funding the rest.

Rage was very meh for me but fair enough.

Also RAGE was in Breaking Bad

Playing Fallout NV right now & went straight into the DLC, I'm level 14 and too overpowered for most quests

Dannnnnnnnnn · Jun 17, 2015

LeBron for MVP? Maybe Iguodala?

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