Opinion Non-Crows AFL 13: Offseason

[GreyCrow]

Willie got paid in caps

 

[Moonwatcher]

Lachie Murphy, come on downnnn!!!

Atkins, Murphy, they're trying to steal our squad!

 

[Moonwatcher]

Don't understand spending so much on a Ruckman.


Scott Lycett is a Premiership player, Nicnat and Brodie Grundy are not.

Nicnat because of injury right?

 

[MrBarry]

What's the deal with Rioli? Cooked or disciplinary issues?

He's cooked imo and not worth the hassle, he's averaged just over a goal a game across his entire career - you can get better than that from a small forward. Plus the bloke can barely run out a game now.

 

[SugarShane]

Anyone else keep looking for our delistings out of habit and then remember we're actually still playing?

 

[Moonwatcher]

Anyone else keep looking for our delistings out of habit and then remember we're actually still playing?

I'm used to just turning off the internet and not looking again till draft day.

 

[George CantStandYa]

It doesn't waste any time

He wanted it out of bounds. Realised that it would look too bad if he just walked it over so gave a token handball. The umpire didn't buy it and nor should he have

Why would he want it out of bounds? He had 2 players there, it does waste time. It’s another stoppage and players converge. You’ve got win the stoppage, rely on another stoppage occurring versus getting the ball to one of your players.

 

[119others]

Nah, I think people say that out of hope but it won't happen.

They are not us from seven years ago. They have a reasonably young list, their best players (Butters, JHF, Georgadis) are elite and still young and they will most likely get access to a number of very high first round picks. Cochrane looks good and Pilot in a few years looks a freak. Add in the other father sons.

If they get a full season out of JHF and get a better overall run with injuries they will be in the mix for a top 8 spot.

I know some in here will say there bottom six is ordinary and it is but that is easily fixed as we have shown. If you start a rebuild with the top end talent already in place it can turn quickly.

Disagree 100%. World of pain. 8 gone already and could easily get rid of 10 more. No first rounder. CD could jump ship. Butters and Bergman leaving.

Will not make finals the next 5 years at least but having a handful of elite players means they aren’t bad enough to finish bottom 3-4 therefore gaining elite talent at the draft. IF they get Cochrane and Pilot - not certain - the price they pay is much higher than previous. And will struggle to attach quality inbound recruits eg Nas in 2 years.

In a zero sum game of SA footy success we are in a sweet spot over coming years. Our club knows it.

No one doubts their top 5 but look at the rest of the crap

How do you rate their list overall? I understand they may have a couple of talented youngsters (all clubs do) but overall it looks like a lot of crap to me. Like about 30 players on their list from what I have seen. Some I havent seen are crappy 3rd or 4th rounder draft picks. I think I have been quite generous here even to Power

Do you think any of the following guys are AFL standard (15)

Evans
Williams
Charleson
Anastaopoulos
Lorenz
Jackson
Barrett
Mc Entree
Moss
Lai
Mead
Walsh
Ramm
Mackinlay
Liddy

Add to the serious question marks (7)

Burton
Lord
DBJ
BZT
Finlayson
Farrell
Soldo

Older OR Unfit/serious injury concerns (4)

SPP
Marshall
Rioli
AA

Retiring (2)

Boak
Atkins


Thats 28 players. I wouldnt want of them except perhaps short term AA

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Why would he want it out of bounds? He had 2 players there, it does waste time. It’s another stoppage and players converge. You’ve got win the stoppage, rely on another stoppage occurring versus getting the ball to one of your players.

Because he was on the last line of defence with opposition players all around

Amon isn't any good under pressure

He's a loose half back

He screwed up and disguised it dreadfully, and it could be used as the textbook definition of what deliberate out of bounds looks like

 

[relapse]

Wasn't expecting that.

He's their 2nd most dangerous forward.

He wanted to walk away from football after the Bulldogs game.

I suspect Port most probably talked him into playing out the rest of the year in the hope that he might change his mind.

 

[AFC979810]

Wasn't expecting that.

He's their 2nd most dangerous forward.

Thats another massive blow.

Will be desperate for Luko to have a clean bill of health in 2026.

 

[FullyBigKPro]

Know it probably got mentioned last night, but I begrudgingly watched the footy shows last night (360, Couch, Classified) and couldn't help but notice there was just this underlying sense of salty bitterness the fact we finished top.

360 Interviewed Nicks and at least had to acknoweldge it but got far from excited.

Couch gave us literally 2 mins and said 'got the job done, but have issues, not sure about them' in a throw away before an ad break.

Classified with chief flog Manure dug up the Rankine issue and were in shock he left for overseas.

I forgot in finals the Vic bias and hatred gets ratcheted up to another level.... Have vague flashbacks to 2017 now

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Know it probably got mentioned last night, but I begrudgingly watched the footy shows last night (360, Couch, Classified) and couldn't help but notice there was just this underlying sense of salty bitterness the fact we finished top.

360 Interviewed Nicks and at least had to acknoweldge it but got far from excited.

Couch gave us literally 2 mins and said 'got the job done, but have issues, not sure about them' in a throw away before an ad break.

Classified with chief flog Manure dug up the Rankine issue and were in shock he left for overseas.

I forgot in finals the Vic bias and hatred gets ratcheted up to another level.... Have vague flashbacks to 2017 now

Yeah, I don't watch most of the shows in the best of times, but have completely tuned out since Rankine affair & finishing top, as knew it would be a pile on.

Hopefully this hardens the team.

 

[chazwazza]

In any other reality a team going from 15th to first in one season would be heavily discussed and celebrated……but here we are.
If anyone had any doubts just how bias and manipulative the AFL media is this should seal it.

 

[jo172]

Also just note that we were the toast of the town before we secured the minor premiership.

They're perfectly ok with us as a plucky upstart who will ultimately lose.

They hate the idea that we'll succeed. It's been the same the entire history of the Club (and broadly for all non-victorian clubs)

 

[Mostyn]

Average afl salary is $450k

Think those figures would be around the mark . Maybe the lower 2 players would be on 100k each, not 200k

Average is misleading because of the massive top salaries. Median would be better to look at, and those players are surely below the median

 

[50BC]

Nah, I think people say that out of hope but it won't happen.

They are not us from seven years ago. They have a reasonably young list, their best players (Butters, JHF, Georgadis) are elite and still young and they will most likely get access to a number of very high first round picks. Cochrane looks good and Pilot in a few years looks a freak. Add in the other father sons.

If they get a full season out of JHF and get a better overall run with injuries they will be in the mix for a top 8 spot.

I know some in here will say there bottom six is ordinary and it is but that is easily fixed as we have shown. If you start a rebuild with the top end talent already in place it can turn quickly.

2024 flattered them, but they aren't as bad as their 2025 result either, they just accumulated too many injuries over the year. As you say their midfield keeps them competitive and will continue to do so. Seems likely Butters walks next year though. Over the next couple years they need to look to replace almost their entire back 7, that's the most glaring problem area. Couple of quality small forwards would be the next priority. If they can find a few of those amongst the young players already on their list it will make the task a lot easier.

 

[Geoffa32]

Nicnat because of injury right?

Correct

But WCE got it done with Lycett.

Even Nankervis is far from an elite high paid Ruck.


Brisbane won the flag with Darcy Fort (vs Grundy)

Ruck is a position you don't need to spend too much coin on.

 

[skam85]

Willie got paid in carbs

Fixed

 

[Geoffa32]

In any other reality a team going from 15th to first in one season would be heavily discussed and celebrated……but here we are.
If anyone had any doubts just how bias and manipulative the AFL media is this should seal it.

If a Vic team did this it would be magical Disneyesque celebration.

 

[skam85]

I don't understand why people care so much about what the media thinks and says about us

 

[adelaidecrows]

Also just note that we were the toast of the town before we secured the minor premiership.

They're perfectly ok with us as a plucky upstart who will ultimately lose.

They hate the idea that we'll succeed. It's been the same the entire history of the Club (and broadly for all non-victorian clubs)

They did blatantly barrack for Collingwood and blamed the loss on everyone else but gave us credit.

I secretly think they were hoping we would finish 3rd. Miss out on the home Qauli, lose and be in sudden death semi the following week.

 

[Punchy Bassett]

Why do we care the Hawks of all teams got a rough umpiring decision?

 

[Bovo]

He's cooked imo and not worth the hassle, he's averaged just over a goal a game across his entire career - you can get better than that from a small forward. Plus the bloke can barely run out a game now.

I didn’t realise he was 30. To be fair not all 30 year olds are made equal. He definitely doesn’t look as fast or agile as he used to, mind you I never recall him being a Wizard in the forward line. At least he gets to go out on his terms and with a premiership

 

[PeterSalt]

He wanted to walk away from football after the Bulldogs game.

I suspect Port most probably talked him into playing out the rest of the year in the hope that he might change his mind.

Was a good plan. At least that incident doesn't mark the end of his career