Opinion Non-Crows AFL 13: Offseason

[mcleod at 50 lines it up]

Think Kochie preferred Tredders on the board as he was able to contain his criticisms.

Now Warren is likely to speak his mind more freely.

Tredrea probably much harder to find an avenue to voice his criticisms since a couple of years ago, looks as though Koch took the opportunity to strike insisting on an apology over a podcast 300 people listen to

 

[Redline]

Tredrea probably much harder to find an avenue to voice his criticisms since a couple of years ago, looks as though Koch took the opportunity to strike insisting on an apology over a podcast 300 people listen to

Nah, if Port didn't remove him the AFL would of found a way to do it. Koch and Tredrea clearly don't like each other but Port had to do this.

 

[mcleod at 50 lines it up]

Nah, if Port didn't remove him the AFL would of found a way to do it. Koch and Tredrea clearly don't like each other but Port had to do this.

It is possible the afl had a hand in it indeed

 

[FR0GGY]

So we cut arguably our greatest ever player due to Covid and now he’s not taking to us.
And now port have done the same, do they ever have an original idea?

 

[footy4ever]

LOL Wazza. Way too much cooker going on there. He'd be right at home in a couple of threads on this board

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

LOL Wazza. Way too much cooker going on there. He'd be right at home in a couple of threads on this board

Tredrea used to post here as little graham





Maybe

 

[brucetiki]

It was somewhat fitting Tredrea got boned on Halloween

 

[Bearded Clam]

Think Kochie preferred Tredders on the board as he was able to contain his criticisms.

Now Warren is likely to speak his mind more freely.

Yeah.. but after the loonies court appearance outburst where he carried on with bullshite nonsense about currencies/fines etc I’m pretty sure the great majority of Australians, and even Power fans, aren't gonna take anything ol’ warren cooker tredders says from now on..

Tredders has basically cooked himself in the eyes of most.. every time tredders says anything from now on, kochie and the club simply need to say “who could possibly believe a word that bloke says”.. and most would agree with them.

 

[1970crow]

Yeah.. but after the loonies court appearance outburst where he carried on with bullshite nonsense about currencies/fines etc I’m pretty sure the great majority of Australians, and even Power fans, aren't gonna take anything ol’ warren cooker tredders says from now on..

Tredders has basically cooked himself in the eyes of most.. every time tredders says anything from now on, kochie and the club simply need to say “who could possibly believe a word that bloke says”.. and most would agree with them.

Never had a problem with people, particularly young and healthy, choosing to not be vaccinated. What amazed me is the amount of people that descended into fully blown conspiracy nutters talking about chem trails and other batshit crazy stuff. And on the other side you see the worst of humanity wanting people to lose their jobs over a vaccine that was never tested for transmission reduction. Strange times.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Yeah.. but after the loonies court appearance outburst where he carried on with bullshite nonsense about currencies/fines etc I’m pretty sure the great majority of Australians, and even Power fans, aren't gonna take anything ol’ warren cooker tredders says from now on..

Tredders has basically cooked himself in the eyes of most.. every time tredders says anything from now on, kochie and the club simply need to say “who could possibly believe a word that bloke says”.. and most would agree with them.

You may be surprised that the majority of Port supporters posting in their Tredrea thread actually still support him!

I wouldn't want a cooker anywhere near our club!

 

[Peter Doherty]

So we cut arguably our greatest ever player due to Covid and now he’s not taking to us.
And now port have done the same, do they ever have an original idea?

Sadly it's not a unique situation in footy. SOS Is absolute Carlton royalty and look at that relationship now. KB at Richmond, Cyril at Hawthorn etc.

 

[Southerntakeover]

You may be surprised that the majority of Port supporters posting in their Tredrea thread actually still support him!

I wouldn't want a cooker anywhere near our club!

Maybe so, but its also pretty concerning to have your elected member representative 'fired' by the AFL appointed board members.

This is the challenge that was presented by covid in a lot of cases. You get presented with situations where a case presents with facts that you find unsympathetic, at times possibly the least possible framing, and you have to decide whether you abandon points of principle.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Maybe so, but its also pretty concerning to have your elected member representative 'fired' by the AFL appointed board members.

This is the challenge that was presented by covid in a lot of cases. You get presented with situations where a case presents with facts that you find unsympathetic, at times possibly the least possible framing, and you have to decide whether you abandon points of principle.

Depends what your principles are!

Board members are not meant to tarnish the reputation of their organisation... & usually there are ramifications.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Depends what your principles are!

Board members are not meant to tarnish the reputation of their organisation... & usually there are ramifications.

Is the democratic control of membership based organisations an objectional principle to you?

Who should determine whether 'damage to reputation' (presuming that can be established) is unacceptable, the club's members or the AFL?

What if we had an elected board member who thought Rankine should have had a lesser suspension, and the AFL considered that damaging to reputation?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Is the democratic control of membership based organisations an objectional principle to you?

Who should determine whether 'damage to reputation' (presuming that can be established) is unacceptable, the club's members or the AFL?

What if we had an elected board member who thought Rankine should have had a lesser suspension, and the AFL considered that damaging to reputation?

You think someone who is democratically elected absolves themselves of acting professionally?

On your theory, we would never sack any prime ministers mid-term for being incompetent.

I believe in accountability & should be more of it, like we saw this week with shareholders removed a Chair...

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[Scorpus]

Maybe so, but its also pretty concerning to have your elected member representative 'fired' by the AFL appointed board members.

Wouldn't be an issue if the entire board was member elected. As it currently stands, it's a token process. Even the nominations of the people the members can pick from are heavily vetted, making the entire exercise pointless. The reality is our board and Port's board are under the total control of the AFL

 

[Peter Doherty]

 

[Southerntakeover]

You think someone who is democratically elected absolves themselves of acting professionally?

On your theory, we would never sack any prime ministers mid-term for being incompetent.

I believe in accountability & should be more of it, like we saw this week with shareholders removed a Chair...

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We don't directly elect prime ministers mate. Members of parliament can't be removed by vote of other members. That would be rightly considered anti democratic.

Shareholders removing the chair is democratic control. That would be the equivalent of members having the removal power.

What you're clapping is other board members removing an elected person, potentially against the will of shareholders.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Wouldn't be an issue if the entire board was member elected. As it currently stands, it's a token process. Even the nominations of the people the members can pick from are heavily vetted, making the entire exercise pointless. The reality is our board and Port's board are under the total control of the AFL

It wouldn't be such an issue if it had other processes of safeguard, for example the right to appeal to the AGM and member vote.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

We don't directly elect prime ministers mate. Members of parliament can't be removed by vote of other members. That would be rightly considered anti democratic.

Shareholders removing the chair is democratic control. That would be the equivalent of members having the removal power.

What you're clapping is other board members removing an elected person, potentially against the will of shareholders.

One of the big reasons many select a party to vote for is the leadership.

We are never going to agree, as i believe people in authority need to be accountable for their decisions & should be removed if they are not performing or tarnishing the reputation of their organisation.

As i said in my orginal reply, it depends on your principles & we have different principles.

 

[Southerntakeover]

One of the big reasons we select a party is the leadership.

We are never going to agree, as i believe people in authority need to be accountable for their decisions & should be renoved if they are not performing or tarnishing the reputation of their organisation.

As i said in my orginal reply, it depends on your principles & we have different principles.

Look, if you just don't understand our political system that's fine. But we don't elect prime ministers, it's not even remotely arguable.

What you haven't articulated are what are your principles, or why you would disagree with democratic control as a principle.

What I suspect is that you're too clouded with your personal bias on this example to actually consider the principle. Which was my point to start with.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Look, if you just don't understand our political system that's fine. But we don't elect prime ministers, it's not even remotely arguable.

What you haven't articulated are what are your principles, or why you would disagree with democratic control as a principle.

What I suspect is that you're too clouded with your personal bias on this example to actually consider the principle. Which was my point to start with.

Lol, your usual bluster because i dare do have a different view to you. Geez you really act like a tool when challenged!

I have explained it for you & all to see. Just because you have different principles to me doesn't make my opinion wrong.

I rank accountability over democracy. You don't. So be it!

It's no wonder i usually walk away from discussions with you as so narrow minded & need to fight to the death to win the internet.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Lol, your usual bluster because i dare do have a different view to you. Geez you really act like a tool when challenged!

I have explained it for you & all to see. Just because you have different principles to me doesn't make my opinion wrong.

I rank accountability over democracy. You don't. So be it!

It's no wonder i usually walk away from discussions with you as so narrow minded & need to fight to the death to win the internet.

You've not challenged anything even slightly.

Articulate your different principle beyond a singular buzzword.

Describe 'accountability'. On what standard are people to be held accountable, to whom? You think our club should be accountable to the corporate AFL, or to club members?

Let's be honest. You 'walk away' from discussions because you're only really ever capable of surface level participation.

 

[1970crow]

You think someone who is democratically elected absolves themselves of acting professionally?

On your theory, we would never sack any prime ministers mid-term for being incompetent.

I believe in accountability & should be more of it, like we saw this week with shareholders removed a Chair...

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Bit different with PMs, the people that can remove them from that office are all elected by the people at commonwealth elections. Plus they can’t remove their vote on the floor of parliament, it’s only their role within their party that they can implement change.

 

[Mutineer]

Another missing piece?

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/port-adelaide-considering-jaidyn-stephenson-for-trainon-spot-this-preseason/news-story/07c575251d0c01dfe91d77b838e9e0ba

Port Adelaide considering Jaidyn Stephenson

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Jaidyn Stephenson

Age

26

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189cm

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79kg

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13.2

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4.4

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M

4.7

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1.5

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D

11.0

3star

K

6.7

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4.3

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M

3.5

3star

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2.7

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G

1.2

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D

12.6

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8.0

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3.4

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3.4

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for train-on spot this pre-season​

Just over a year since announcing his retirement, Jaidyn Stephenson

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Jaidyn Stephenson

Age

26

Ht

189cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

8.8

3star

HB

4.4

3star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

1.5

5star

D

11.0

3star

K

6.7

3star

HB

4.3

3star

M

3.5

3star

T

2.7

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

12.6

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.4

5star

is attempting to make a shock return to the elite level — and an AFL club is looking closely at the ex-Pie and Kangaroo.

Former Collingwood and North Melbourne forward Jaidyn Stephenson

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Jaidyn Stephenson

Age

26

Ht

189cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

8.8

3star

HB

4.4

3star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

1.5

5star

D

11.0

3star

K

6.7

3star

HB

4.3

3star

M

3.5

3star

T

2.7

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

12.6

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.4

5star

is among a raft of summer train-on possibilities being considered by Port Adelaide.
The 2018 Rising Star winner retired from AFL football at the end of the 2024 season with a year remaining on his contract with the Kangaroos after losing his passion for the game.

But the 26-year-old has been searching for an AFL lifeline and is keen to add to the 122 games he played with the Magpies and the Kangaroos from 2018 to 2024.