Oppo Camp Non-Essendon Thread X

[GUMBLETRON]

I've just discovered this: http://www.tigertigerburningbright.com.au/duffle/

It's great.

 

[vaughany]

Gold Coast have dropped Aaron Hall this week....puzzling!

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[Pweter]

Not even a single mention of Pav's cheap open handed hit on Ambrose in the round 11 MRP report. Get absolutely stuffed, MRP campaigners.

Open hand is why. Clench your fist and hit with less impact aka Hawkins and you get done.

The AFL is quite ridiculous. It's a man's game that seems to be encouraging bitch slapping as the acceptable form of violence.

 

[yaco55]

I applaud the MRP's decision re the Hawkins Incident. IMO the AFL has gone soft on striking incidents in the last two years - Still can't get over the Lynch strike on Baguley in Round 1 getting only a fine.

 

[Stopher]

I applaud the MRP's decision re the Hawkins Incident. IMO the AFL has gone soft on striking incidents in the last two years - Still can't get over the Lynch strike on Baguley in Round 1 getting only a fine.

I don't think many would have an issue with the Hawkins one in isolation. But to let so many incidents get only a fine or nothing, when they were definitely comparable to Hawkins, is what annoys people most.

 

[Doss]

I don't think many would have an issue with the Hawkins one in isolation. But to let so many incidents get only a fine or nothing, when they were definitely comparable to Hawkins, is what annoys people most.

Consistency at the MRP is consistently inconsistent.

 

[ScrappyCoCo]

Gold Coast have dropped Aaron Hall this week....puzzling!

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He had 1 tackle last week in those deplorable conditions. He has been injured, but gee, he did not want to get down and dirty last week. Spewing hes out though...in my fantasy teams.

 

[yaco55]

I don't think many would have an issue with the Hawkins one in isolation. But to let so many incidents get only a fine or nothing, when they were definitely comparable to Hawkins, is what annoys people most.

The MRP are hamstrung by a narrow set of guidelines - Where the MRP has erred is fining players, instead of suspending players.

 

[baz_machine]

Gold Coast have dropped Aaron Hall this week....puzzling!

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Fantasy coaches up in arms

 

[yaco55]

Cloke dropped again - His time is up at Collingwood.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Cloke dropped again - His time is up at Collingwood.

Yep I imagine his old man will be angry.

 

[Runk]

Where do we all sit on the AFL assisting GWS matter. I call it a 'matter' as it has yet to become an 'issue.'

The more I think about it the angrier I get.

Currently there's so much talk about us getting or not getting the number pick. Not that it matters but when are we supposed to get our pick? I heard today it would be akin to us getting assistance from the AFL if we did get it. But does it matter?

In two years we've got a team, that's rcvd so much assistance that it's not funny, about to hit it big. GWS. Clearly the AFL want this team to be competitive, so the draft took care of that along with the academy. But how far? How long?

This club has the potential for sustained success for nigh on a decade. The potential is there, it cannot be argued & imo they have at least four to five premierships awaiting their talent.

So where does that leave everyone else? Where does that leaves us more importantly?

Will Victorian club fans, let alone everyone else, be short changed so much that it damages the brand forever? Have the AFL sold us all out just so their foray into the Sydney market ensures they don't look stupid because this cannot be sustained? Just look at the Queensland teams right now. They desperately need help but can they get it no matter how hard they shout? Nup.

It's scary as hell and only feels more forboding with each and every win this year the put on the board.

 

[Lord Nicholson]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-06-09/afl-knocks-back-cats-bid-for-extra-flags

Good

 

[Stopher]

The 'Essendon not getting a draft pick' thing is about as consistent as the MRP rulings. Was last year's finish a reflection of the ASADA stuff finally weighing players down or was it merely where that group was at?

If it was due to the ASADA stuff, then you could make an argument that given the talent still on the field playing, Essendon receiving pick 4 in 2015 was more of an 'injustice' than pick 1 or 2 would be in 2016. Yet nobody seemed to have an issue with it then. Also, there is the small matter of already having lost 2 years of premium picks in 2013 and 2014 as punishment. Funny how people are quick to forget that. Then again, the fact that Dodoro appears to have knocked those drafts out of the ****ing ballpark might be the reason people didn't think we were actually punished at all!

If it was simply due to the playing group being not good enough, then this year is merely an extension of that poor list management, so we are having our cyclical time at the bottom and as a result, will be entitled to the draft pick relative to our finishing position. The same as every other club in the league. So what is the issue?

 

[Lore]

The 'Essendon not getting a draft pick' thing is about as consistent as the MRP rulings. Was last year's finish a reflection of the ASADA stuff finally weighing players down or was it merely where that group was at?

If it was due to the ASADA stuff, then you could make an argument that given the talent still on the field playing, Essendon receiving pick 4 in 2015 was more of an 'injustice' than pick 1 or 2 would be in 2016. Yet nobody seemed to have an issue with it then. Also, there is the small matter of already having lost 2 years of premium picks in 2013 and 2014 as punishment. Funny how people are quick to forget that. Then again, the fact that Dodoro appears to have knocked those drafts out of the ******* ballpark might be the reason people didn't think we were actually punished at all!

If it was simply due to the playing group being not good enough, then this year is merely an extension of that poor list management, so we are having our cyclical time at the bottom and as a result, will be entitled to the draft pick relative to our finishing position. The same as every other club in the league. So what is the issue?

If we're going that way, we could also talk about clubs gutted by injury getting higher picks than their complete and healthy list "deserves". Perhaps the AFL should assign draft picks based on their list value (as determined by an algorithm that arbitrarily favours the league's agenda)?

 

[Stopher]

If we're going that way, we could also talk about clubs gutted by injury getting higher picks than their complete and healthy list "deserves". Perhaps the AFL should assign draft picks based on their list value (as determined by an algorithm that arbitrarily favours the league's agenda)?

I reckon there might be a job in there for you

 

[Lore]

I reckon there might be a job in there for you

The problem for me is defining 'arbitrary'.

So pet projects, other interstate clubs, clubs that make an effort to pretend they're interstate, big clubs that financially support interstate clubs, remaining by order of how much they give a shit;
Pick 1, Gold Coast
Pick 2, Greater Western Sydney
Pick 3, Brisbane
Pick 4, Fremantle
Pick 5, Sydney
Pick 6, Adelaide
Pick 7, Port Adelaide
Pick 8, West Coast
Pick 9, North Melbourne
Pick 10, Hawthorn
Pick 11, Melbourne
Pick 12, St Kilda
Pick 13, Collingwood
Pick 14, Carlton
Pick 15, Essendon
Pick 16, Geelong
Pick 17, Western Bulldogs
Pick 18, Richmond

That do?

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Where do we all sit on the AFL assisting GWS matter. I call it a 'matter' as it has yet to become an 'issue.'

The more I think about it the angrier I get.

Currently there's so much talk about us getting or not getting the number pick. Not that it matters but when are we supposed to get our pick? I heard today it would be akin to us getting assistance from the AFL if we did get it. But does it matter?

In two years we've got a team, that's rcvd so much assistance that it's not funny, about to hit it big. GWS. Clearly the AFL want this team to be competitive, so the draft took care of that along with the academy. But how far? How long?

This club has the potential for sustained success for nigh on a decade. The potential is there, it cannot be argued & imo they have at least four to five premierships awaiting their talent.

So where does that leave everyone else? Where does that leaves us more importantly?

Will Victorian club fans, let alone everyone else, be short changed so much that it damages the brand forever? Have the AFL sold us all out just so their foray into the Sydney market ensures they don't look stupid because this cannot be sustained? Just look at the Queensland teams right now. They desperately need help but can they get it no matter how hard they shout? Nup.

It's scary as hell and only feels more forboding with each and every win this year the put on the board.

With the amount talent they got and draft picks they shouldn't be allowed to have an Academy. They can have an Academy when they are languishing at the bottom of the ladder after wining a few flags.

 

[Stopher]

The problem for me is defining 'arbitrary'.

So pet projects, other interstate clubs, clubs that make an effort to pretend they're interstate, big clubs that financially support interstate clubs, remaining by order of how much they give a shit;
Pick 1, Gold Coast
Pick 2, Greater Western Sydney
Pick 3, Brisbane
Pick 4, Fremantle
Pick 5, Sydney
Pick 6, Adelaide
Pick 7, Port Adelaide
Pick 8, West Coast
Pick 9, North Melbourne
Pick 10, Hawthorn
Pick 11, Melbourne
Pick 12, St Kilda
Pick 13, Collingwood
Pick 14, Carlton
Pick 15, Essendon
Pick 16, Geelong
Pick 17, Western Bulldogs
Pick 18, Richmond

That do?

I'm surprised the AFL haven't signed you up already!

 

[Lore]

I'm surprised the AFL haven't signed you up already!

Rofl. That place has no use for accurate information.

 

[Lord Nicholson]

He had the lobotomy and the chicken eyes

• If Brad Crouch is allowed to participate in football at Adelaide he might continue playing for them
• Leigh Matthews is getting by on reputation alone and that's OK
• Carlton's arrogance is endearing
• Nathan Buckley is pig-headed
• hahahahahahahaha essendon are shit
• Barlow magnificently shut down a player in a side that touched the ball on an average of 1.3 times per quarter
• Geelong have got good players, and these good players have chances to win Geelong's Best and Fairest at the end of the football season
• Hall was going well until he wasn't
• GWS are suddenly unimpressive after losing narrowly to Geelong in Sleepy Hollow
• Hawthorn will beat Essendon by, like, a lot
• Garlett is a dubious prospect
• We're still talking about Majak Daw for some reason
• Bearded lady is a good player
• Richmond could lose the football match against a poor side
• St Kilda are not very good (NB: Same as it ever was, same as it ever was...)
• The AFL's arbitrary (read: commercial) selections of finals venue is a subject for ridicule. Chiefly, the victims.
• It is well advised that a football side should resolve itself to victoriously claim football matches with puissant import in order to entrench themselves most deeply within that glorious and munificent firmament known as the Top 4
• Bontimpelli is a good player

 

[Doss]

I bet Damo wishes he could get by on reputation alone.

 

[Dave]

"munificent firmament"

love it.

 

[Autobahn]

I bet Damo wishes he could get by on reputation alone.

How dare you talk to football royalty like that.

 

[mike14]

I bet Damo wishes he could get by on reputation alone.

I just assumed he was....he's certainly not getting by on talent...