Oppo Camp Non-Essendon Thread XI

[adsla69k]

We play Geelong after 2 losses on the trott! Paddy and Selwood are battered!

 

[sameolds33]

**** going to face a furious Geelong after 2 straight losses.

maybe they'll go for a hat trick?

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

maybe they'll go for a hat trick?

Would love to inflict them a 3rd straight loss but just cant see it. They will play one of games where they don't miss and 50/50 balls going their way.

 

[silk]

Who else has got 0 in their tipping so far?

I'm 1 for 6 so far! Leading my comp too.... worried.

 

[sameolds33]

Would love to inflict them a 3rd straight loss but just cant see it. They will play one of games where they don't miss and 50/50 balls going their way.

after this round, all bets are off I reckon. Might as well back our boys.

 

[Skipper_]

I'm 1 for 6 so far! Leading my comp too.... worried.

Did anyone actually tip Richmond.

 

[DapperDon]

Not gonna lie, that Richmond loss game me a wry smile

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

after this round, all bets are off I reckon. Might as well back our boys.

Worried about Danger and Selwood. Our midfield is one of the worst at applying pressure and wining the ball.

 

[sameolds33]

Worried about Danger and Selwood. Our midfield is one of the worst at applying pressure and wining the ball.

One week at a time...now is not the time to worry about the cats

 

[srobbo]

Amusing reading all th aforementioned comments about the dogs defieciences....give me a spell ffs.

 

[DapperDon]

**** going to face a furious Geelong after 2 straight losses.

Chiiiilll Winston

Let's get back from Subi before worrying about the Cats

 

[DMyers197]

Chiiiilll Winston

Let's get back from Subi before worrying about the Cats

Honestly ruins footy to give up so easily on any match, especially a winnable match, before it has even started

 

[Blind Turn]

Not gonna lie, that Richmond loss game me a wry smile

Me too, considering it kept me alive in our knockout tipping comp

 

[Its Manbearpig]

Honestly ruins footy to give up so easily on any match, especially a winnable match, before it has even started

.. and welcome to the boards..you'll get used to that..

 

[Summer Nights]

I'm not surprised when underdogs win these days. There's really not much between any of the sides. The AFL wanted equalization and unfortunately the result is that there are no genuine blockbusters and no genuine upsets anymore.

Terrible post.

 

[pepsi]

Terrible post.

This year is brilliant so far. Many matches have had unpredictable results and it has meant more games to get invested in as a neutral.

 

[ezard15]

The pick we received from StK in exchange for Carlisle was used to get Francis

Cheers mate, thought so.

We will know we won that trade when the big red dominates tonight.

 

[GieschUnleashed]

Did anyone actually tip Richmond.

That was my upset tip of the round. Unfortunately it was the only upset not to get up.

 

[Stopher]

That was my upset tip of the round. Unfortunately it was the only upset not to get up.

Haha same!

 

[eth-dog]

Cheers mate, thought so.

We will know we won that trade when the big red dominates tonight.

Ugh. Why are we obsessed with "winning" this trade? Right now it looks a good deal for all the parties involved.

 

[BrunoV]

Amusing reading all th aforementioned comments about the dogs defieciences....give me a spell ffs.

Dogs played a team last night in which Dunkley, Adams, Smith and Cordy are all poor by foot. Jong, M Boyd, Liberatore, Picken and Hunter are okay to reliable depending on whether they kick within their limitations.

They scraped over the live against Richmond. Richmond will struggle to make the 8 so what does it matter? It's just like last week, Adelaide became invincible because they flogged Richmond and then get exposed against North in match in which they were beaten around the ball and their defensive system was shown up completely.

 

[BrunoV]

Ugh. Why are we obsessed with "winning" this trade? Right now it looks a good deal for all the parties involved.

How are we ever going to win this trade? Carlisle will play the best part of 150 games for St Kilda and Gresham will play 200 games.

We got one player out of the deal as Bird was just salary cap relief for Sydney (as fodzilla said in another thread).

Where is the debate? People confuse Baines being an opportunistic prick, and what is really just the usual bluster during a negotiation, with Baines being defeated in that deal. Baines walked all over us in that deal because he was prepared to be a prick.

The best thing that we can say, which poster rarely do, is that Carlisle is a mental midget and not a great guy to have around the club but that does not go as far as him being a disruptive influence (at least as far as I am aware).

 

[tesla1962]

Ugh. Why are we obsessed with "winning" this trade? Right now it looks a good deal for all the parties involved.

I agree that all parties got a good deal under the circumstances and that there is nothing to be gained from arguing over who won the trade. That is not the issue. The issue for me was St Kilda tried to take advantage of the parlous state the Essendon Footy Club was in due to the saga and the year after David Koch and Port Adelaide took advantage of the Ryder situation. You could argue that at least St Kilda had an appropriate pick (#5) so compared with Port, who didn't have a first rounder, their behaviour was even worse. The ridiculous posturing of Bains and the Saints supporters was particularly galling and against that background we 'won the trade'. Contrast the behaviour of St Kilda with Melbourne at the trade table. Would Essendon have acted like St Kilda if the roles were reversed? Who knows?

Edit: It wasn't Bain's bluster, if it wasn't for Carlisle's reluctance to enter the PSD and the timely intervention of the Hawks we would not have even got Francis. It was a close run thing.

 

[srobbo]

Dogs played a team last night in which Dunkley, Adams, Smith and Cordy are all poor by foot. Jong, M Boyd, Liberatore, Picken and Hunter are okay to reliable depending on whether they kick within their limitations.

So? What's your point? We all knew these player's traits last year. Doesn't change the fact they should be 6-1 & are going prob better than anyone.

You've also dismissed Richmond on the basis of one bad half in Adelaide?? Who haven't they flogged over there? Agree they're not a top 4 threat this year, but to imply they haven't improved significantly from 2015/16 is ignorant.

 

[YEMOC NAYR]

How are we ever going to win this trade? Carlisle will play the best part of 150 games for St Kilda and Gresham will play 200 games.

We got one player out of the deal as Bird was just salary cap relief for Sydney (as fodzilla said in another thread).

Where is the debate? People confuse Baines being an opportunistic prick, and what is really just the usual bluster during a negotiation, with Baines being defeated in that deal. Baines walked all over us in that deal because he was prepared to be a prick.

The best thing that we can say, which poster rarely do, is that Carlisle is a mental midget and not a great guy to have around the club but that does not go as far as him being a disruptive influence (at least as far as I am aware).

Saints did fantastic in the trade. But what makes it better for mine is the ridiculous stance at first the saints took, outright trying to ream us.

In reflection it's a good trade for us because we got good value. Likewise for them. Tbh we should be thankful carlisle seemingly was open to other options because if he wasn't saints would have tried even harder to get him by other means.