Non Playing Coaches

[Il Naso De Gastev]

The QAFL isn't even as good as local football leagues in Melbourne.

Irrelevant. It's still meaningful, senior level footy. It means the he would know what it's like to be in certain situations on the field (ie the amount of courage it takes to run with the flight of the ball, dive head first into a pack), and his players would respect him for that.

 

[Spook]

Neil Craig.

lol..... ignorance personified.

 

[scottydeewah]

Irrelevant. It's still meaningful, senior level footy.

- No, I wanted a played who hadnt played in the AFL, VFL, SANFL or WAFL.

"Filled With" may have been an over exaggeration but there are a number of very successful head coaches who havent played at the highest level. The NFL has quiet a number that did play college, but even a few of these played second or third division NCAA (which is like playing for in division 1 or 2 in a Vic league).

The only real argument I could think of was that the players couldnt respect a coach who hadnt played before. Again I find it strange that AFL players couldnt respect a coach when Rugby, NFL and NHL players have managed to do it, all sports being as equally tough as the AFL. NHL is even a tough sport that isnt an X and O sport.

Take Bill Belicheck of the New England Patriots in the NFL. He has managed to get his team to win 3 championships and he only ever played in NCAA Div III. So why do his players respect him enough to play, put their bodies on the line and win when he has never done it himself.

Whilst I understand that it would be rare for a person to have never set foot on a field and coach. I am not to sure why it is a pre-requisite to have played top flight football to coach.

 

[Il Naso De Gastev]

- No, I wanted a played who hadnt played in the AFL, VFL, SANFL or WAFL.

"Filled With" may have been an over exaggeration but there are a number of very successful head coaches who havent played at the highest level. The NFL has quiet a number that did play college, but even a few of these played second or third division NCAA (which is like playing for in division 1 or 2 in a Vic league).

The only real argument I could think of was that the players couldnt respect a coach who hadnt played before. Again I find it strange that AFL players couldnt respect a coach when Rugby, NFL and NHL players have managed to do it, all sports being as equally tough as the AFL. NHL is even a tough sport that isnt an X and O sport.

Take Bill Belicheck of the New England Patriots in the NFL. He has managed to get his team to win 3 championships and he only ever played in NCAA Div III. So why do his players respect him enough to play, put their bodies on the line and win when he has never done it himself.

Whilst I understand that it would be rare for a person to have never set foot on a field and coach. I am not to sure why it is a pre-requisite to have played top flight football to coach.

WTF?? You are agreeing with every point I have made in this thread.

 

[scottydeewah]

WTF?? You are agreeing with every point I have made in this thread.

Well no.

I dont think the QAFL counts.

I understand the "respect" argument, but it doesnt stand up in other sports, so why ours?

 

[Il Naso De Gastev]

Well no.

I dont think the QAFL counts.

I understand the "respect" argument, but it doesnt stand up in other sports, so why ours?

Why doesn't it count? Respectable enough level of footy... enough at least to develop an appreciation for the sport, and intricasies that are required to play it.

Don't know a hell of a lot about NFL, but I guess it has a more rigid structure where players perform a specific skillset in a game... therefore I guess a more 'managerial', purely tactical style of coaching may apply. But again, all those listed throughout this thread have played their respective sports at some level, therefore understand it, which franks my argument.

 

[Valve Bounce]

Other professional leagues around the world are filled with coaches who never played the game at the highest level (some having never played it at any level). These coaches are successful and well respected.

So the question everyone can see coming, why dont we have any non playing coaches in the AFL? Have their been any in the past?

Can anyone list the non--playing senior coaches the other top leagues in the country, (SANFL/WAFL/VFL)?

You're making a very strong argument for Eddie, aren't you!!

................or Jeff Kennet!!

 

[scottydeewah]

But again, all those listed throughout this thread have played their respective sports at some level, therefore understand it, which franks my argument.

The argument wasnt "at some level" it was at a professional level. I added the VFL/WAFL/SANFL as back before the AFL they were as close to professional leagues as we had in the country. The QAFL was never close to the same standard of these leagues, therefore I dont think it counts. Even still, why havent there been a raft of QAFL players coaching in the AFL?

Playing NCAA III is similar to saying you played for the Scotch College Seconds then went on and coached Carlton to three flags.

Playing third tear in Portugal is similar to playing for Ringwood and the going on and coaching Collingwood to a couple of premierships.

The AFL has traditionally been behind a number of leagues worldwide in terms of its professionalism and inovation. I wonder if this is another area that we may begin to see changes in the next 10-20 years?

For mine of you showed promise as a coach and were taken on as an 18 year old. By the time you hit 30-32 when most players are finishing up their careers, you would already be miles ahead of a player of the same age.