Society/Culture Notional Take Back Australia Day

[Carringbush2010]

This is the point. The bit about "and continue". Sure it isn't like it was but its not a heap better in many ways either.

Agreed, but what are you or I as individuals supposed to do about that?

Is that worth celebrating?

No one is 'celebrating' atrocities

 

[Orfullrules]

Back to school in a few days for him

Haven’t been reading. Assume he got schooled again today.

 

[Carringbush2010]

No. The shame exists because generations of indigenous people have stemmed from those who were displaced. It’s shameful because we haven’t done enough to close the gap

Feeling shame (or guilt for that matter) about something you haven't done or can't control isn't productive, and not healthy and doesn't help anyone.

Proud of the invasion?

No one is

. There’s nothing to rejoice about from an historical perspective

Again, people aren't rejoicing about the colonization, they're rejoicing about the country they live in - now.

but the point is to be aware of the pain it caused

Everyone is aware.

I am literally still waiting for a reason why changing the date would impact non indigenous Australians.

It wouldn't.

 

[Gough]

Feeling shame (or guilt for that matter) about something you haven't done or can't control isn't productive, and not healthy and doesn't help anyone.

That's the autumn public holiday bonanza done away with if we're cancelling Easter and ANZAC Day.

 

[South of the Yarra]

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200...surely you jest...

Please tell me you realise that Stolen Generation was still taking place in the 1970s and surely you understand that there is currently a Stolen Generation that is taking place today for many Aboriginal children.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

What xmaz, anzac and good Friday counterproductive to support? I wouldn't have thought so

Good Friday is not a set date. It's not even in a specific month.

 

[demondavey]

No mention of the Australian flag being burned and spat on?? Wonder why

Why should there be? Neo Nazis at Australia Day protests is slightly more of an issue. Hard to understand though for a self confessed racist.

 

[demondavey]

What xmaz, anzac and good Friday counterproductive to support? I wouldn't have thought so

Little bit different…

 

[demondavey]

That's the autumn public holiday bonanza done away with if we're cancelling Easter and ANZAC Day.

Damn. I love Easter. Hot Cross buns and the dense as hell cream eggs. Plus Hawthorn always lose to Geelong, don’t they?

 

[Gough]

Damn. I love Easter. Hot Cross buns and the dense as hell cream eggs. Plus Hawthorn always lose to Geelong, don’t they?

People get too hung up on Easter.

 

[demondavey]

People get too hung up on Easter.

The eater Monday game is great

 

[CrowToon]

Burning Australian flags.

Smoking ceremonies on total fire ban days.

Charging local school $5-10k+ for speaking/welcome to countries and smoking ceremonies.

No end date to the agenda.

Why is there any wonder why more and more people are turning away from their cause.

 

[Goroyals22]

Why should there be? Neo Nazis at Australia Day protests is slightly more of an issue. Hard to understand though for a self confessed racist.

As opposed to there being no criminals let’s say at invasion day rallies?

Only a racist in your eyes… sad man…
Anyway it’s been fun. I look forward to next years edition of this threads version. And the next 25 years of the same thing.

 

[Maddo11]

People get too hung up on Easter.

Dunno why some are so cross about it

 

[Gough]

The eater Monday game is great

I've always had a grudging admiration for Geelong which I hate myself for. As an 80s kid it's Carlton and Essendon that I get the particular shits about when we lose.

 

[thumbs_up]

What the hell were the pro Australia mob, or whatever they call themselves doing protesting a protest march?

You have the day, go and celebrate it, rather than going around picking fights. So moronic. These people remind me of my early 20s and there was always those blokes who'd go to the pub just to pick a fight from someone who was from out of town.

Perhaps they all got together and formed and movement or something.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Good Friday is not a set date. It's not even in a specific month.

Tell that to the poster that replied to me.

 

[Carringbush2010]

That's the autumn public holiday bonanza done away with if we're cancelling Easter and ANZAC Day.

Tell that to the poster that replied to me.

 

[10571z]

Sure.

Then what?

Everyone's happy and we can all finally move on? We've got sorry day, then we move the date of Australia day.

Will those people wanting to change the date finally be reconciled enough to be satisfied and get on with their lives?

At some point, they simply have to move on from this.

I mean that’s the long and the short of it.

 

[Orfullrules]

Burning Australian flags.

Smoking ceremonies on total fire ban days.

Charging local school $5-10k+ for speaking/welcome to countries and smoking ceremonies.

No end date to the agenda.

Why is there any wonder why more and more people are turning away from their cause.

Because their cause is??

 

[ferball]

Agreed, but what are you or I as individuals supposed to do about that?

We can write letters to politicians whinging about it and demanding better. We can talk to the people affected and ask what they think should be done.

No one is 'celebrating' atrocities

That's not how it comes across and the reality is that people might not be celebrating atrocities but they are celebrating a system where children are still being stolen, the legal system is still weighted against indigenous people and generally, except in rare cases, indigenous people have not benefited from invasion, they still suffer because of it.

Honestly i reckon if we left everything the same and officially changed the name to "Invasion Day" - just made it official and embraced it - then we'd start treating indigenous people better over time because it would play on people's minds.

Then we could pick another day (one that had no meaning, maybe in a weeks time) call it Australia Day and have another public holiday.

 

[ferball]

Sure.

Then what?

Everyone's happy and we can all finally move on? We've got sorry day, then we move the date of Australia day.

Will those people wanting to change the date finally be reconciled enough to be satisfied and get on with their lives?

At some point, they simply have to move on from this.

Who is "they"?

Aboriginal people?

 

[bzparkes]

Who is "they"?

Aboriginal people?

Are they the only ones wanting to change the date?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

No one is 'celebrating' atrocities

How come the miltary parade was the first Australia Day related thing we seen broadcast on TV this morning?

 

[demondavey]

Burning Australian flags.

Smoking ceremonies on total fire ban days.

Charging local school $5-10k+ for speaking/welcome to countries and smoking ceremonies.

No end date to the agenda.

Why is there any wonder why more and more people are turning away from their cause.

Boo hoo