Ottens is a DUD

[Cats!!]

speaking of lumbering, lazy and overweight forwards .. hows the TommaHawk ?

Yeah, pretty good actually. Should get a game soon, thanks for asking anyway. And to think you gave up pick 5 for kennedy and what did we give for Hawkins, yeah thats right pick 41.

 

[Austin_McCrabbs]

That doesnt really sound logical. It must mean that every other single ruckmen in the AFL won the hitouts at exacty 50% each.

If Ottens' is Mr Big with 51% that means there can be no lower than 49% meaning everyone else is 49-50% which would seem to imply that ruck contests are pretty much a strictly 50-50 match up every single time (except when Mr 51% plays) therefore completley nullifying the need or purpose of ruckman all together.

Quite obviously there are hitout contests where there is no clear winner. This doesn't preclude the contest from being counted in the statistics as a hitout contest. For instance, it could be that 20-30% of ruck contests are neither clearly won by any opponent. But Ottens 51% clearly shows he won more than his opponent taking this into account.

Comprehende idiota?

 

[Partridge]

Quite obviously there are hitout contests where there is no clear winner. This doesn't preclude the contest from being counted in the statistics as a hitout contest. For instance, it could be that 20-30% of ruck contests are neither clearly won by any opponent. But Ottens 51% clearly shows he won more than his opponent taking this into account.

Comprehende idiota?

Well said Austin. He's a good ruckman, that's all there is to it. But he's got to play there a lot more often. Hopefully one M.Thompson gets that same message.

 

[HotDog]

This guy is as soft as butter.

This is an unfortunate side effect of playing for Richmond for a few years.

Reason why he fits in so well at geelong

 

[The Dice Man]

Quite obviously there are hitout contests where there is no clear winner. This doesn't preclude the contest from being counted in the statistics as a hitout contest. For instance, it could be that 20-30% of ruck contests are neither clearly won by any opponent. But Ottens 51% clearly shows he won more than his opponent taking this into account.

Comprehende idiota?

No I dont comprehendo idiota simply because naming Brad Ottens as the most effective ruckman spanks of pure bollocks!

And you dare to call me an idiot

 

[Austin_McCrabbs]

No I dont comprehendo idiota simply because naming Brad Ottens as the most effective ruckman spanks of pure bollocks!

And you dare to call me an idiot

Yeah the idiot status still stands. I never said he was the most effective ruckman. That's you misunderstanding the argument. I said he got his hand to the ball the most of any ruckman as a % of the contests he competed in, you know beat his opponent to the hitout. There are plenty other criteria that go into analysing a ruckmans effectiveness other than getting the hitout. I never even mentioned whether they were classified as hitouts to advantage or not.

I know you wont understand anything i've said, so enjoy your nintendo hour tonight and I hope mum and dad allow you to stay up to watch the game.

 

[westcoast wizard]

People were comparing to DEAN COX in 2005. That is plain and simple joke. Coxy would smash ottens blind folded.

 

[tin can sam]

speaking of lumbering, lazy and overweight forwards .. hows the TommaHawk ?

He'll be kicking 17 this weekend, don't want to pressure him before he debuts.

 

[fishbowl]

Brad Ottens is now officially the biggest DUD in the AFL, he has overtaken Mark Bolton and of course former AFL player A.Hennemen. Ottens is a waste of money and space for Geelong, a big fella like him should be instilling confidence in the team but instead his lack of performance is the start of the cancer that is infecting his team. Yes i do blame Ottens, we have all played in teams where a big forward never delivers and it hurts you everywhere. DITCH HIM THOMMO

Geelong are a dud.

 

[The Dice Man]

Yeah the idiot status still stands. I never said he was the most effective ruckman. That's you misunderstanding the argument. I said he got his hand to the ball the most of any ruckman as a % of the contests he competed in, you know beat his opponent to the hitout. There are plenty other criteria that go into analysing a ruckmans effectiveness other than getting the hitout. I never even mentioned whether they were classified as hitouts to advantage or not.

I know you wont understand anything i've said, so enjoy your nintendo hour tonight and I hope mum and dad allow you to stay up to watch the game.

So 51% of contests is the best winning advantage of any ruckmen in contested situations in teh year 2006?

Do you even understand numbers dip****?

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

No I dont comprehendo idiota simply because naming Brad Ottens as the most effective ruckman spanks of pure bollocks!

And you dare to call me an idiot

You are an idiot.

Just keep letting your jealousy and rage blind you to any upside he may have

 

[HAWKS HEROES]

my tiger friend would agree 100%

 

[jacko57]

All of you.

 

[The Dice Man]

You are an idiot.

Just keep letting your jealousy and rage blind you to any upside he may have

OK, I'll put my jealousy aside just for you, and admit that Brad (Mr 51%) Ottens is the most effective ruckman in the league

Now I feel like Robert Walls.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

OK, I'll put my jealousy aside just for you, and admit that Brad (Mr 51%) Ottens is the most effective ruckman in the league

Now I feel like Robert Walls.

Strawman...