Opinion Our coaches, leadership, game style, and everything else

[kickthething]

The two way running is non existent....where is our fitness base at?
The way we emerged after half time tells me our coaching group are struggling big time. We seem so bereft of ideas and are playing a game style that passed its use by date a couple of seasons ago. Our midfield were elite, they are no longer in that category, in fact, you simply do not know what you are going to get week from week. Tonight provided a fantastic reality check, its now a question of whats the response?

 

[kickthething]

That's an interesting view considering Dew is highly regarded and very well wanted. Certainly a different perspective to my thoughts but you have me intrigued, very intrigued!

Perhaps Dew is not entirely focused at the moment?

 

[vonn]

The possession game plan is based around halting the momentum of the opposition, I hope longmire realised it did shit all tonight, I'm at f****** gym because of Sydney, they motivated me to go an lift weights because if I get in bed now I'll cry like a little bitch

I have to go out and rent a male prostitute so I don't forget what real men look like.

 

[RUNVS]

What are peoples honest appraisals of

K.Jack
Kennedy
Parker
Mitchell
Hannebery

Right now would any of them be in the top 50 players in the competition? What about the top 100 players in the competition?

I think Kennedy and Parker might be between 45 and 50, Hannebery would be around 70 but I would not count the others as being top 100 players (Mitchell might be 101)

 

[RUNVS]

I have to go out and rent a male prostitute so I don't forget what real men look like.

So male prostitutes are real men?

 

[robbieando]

I think our defence looks poor because

Ted is cooked
Nick smith is a shadow of himself
Shaw is cooked
Grundy makes poor decisions
Rampe is played out of position
And our most reliable defender is a carlton reject

None of them cope with it hitting the ground

Occasionally reid chips in, not sure why its the mids fault

Because the midfield either can't stop it at a clearance or if they do and get it forward, nobody is home and they are torched on the rebound because of poor disposal, poor decision making and lack of time spent resting forward vs 2012.

Your defence can only look as good as the players helping further up the field and personally I think we are overating our midfield group or at least not giving them enough of the blame.

 

[Faysals Swans]

I have to go out and rent a male prostitute so I don't forget what real men look like.

Id offer myself but probably start crying because of tonight

 

[Olian]

Unlike round 8 we didn't take the game on through the middle. Hawks are just clinical with ball in hand.

 

[RUNVS]

Id offer myself but probably start crying because of tonight

Wait what. I thought crying after sex is what every man did, as well as a lot of apologising "I really didn't mean to knee you in the face. It has never happened before".

 

[The King!]

Because the midfield either can't stop it at a clearance or if they do and get it forward, nobody is home and they are torched on the rebound because of poor disposal, poor decision making and lack of time spent resting forward vs 2012.

Your defence can only look as good as the players helping further up the field and personally I think we are overating our midfield group or at least not giving them enough of the blame.

No they share in some blame for sure, you are correct in the sense the mids protect the defence, but cmon if the ball goes forward opposition teams look like scoring every time, we cant limit inside 50s to zero

It it hits the ground in our backline its almost always a scoring chance

 

[vonn]

What are peoples honest appraisals of

K.Jack
Kennedy
Parker
Mitchell
Hannebery

Right now would any of them be in the top 50 players in the competition? What about the top 100 players in the competition?

I think Kennedy and Parker might be between 45 and 50, Hannebery would be around 70 but I would not count the others as being top 100 players (Mitchell might be 101)

Midfield have had to do too much IMO. Think we're being too critical of the only reason why we aren't bottom 4.

 

[Faysals Swans]

Wait what. I thought crying after sex is what every man did, as well as a lot of apologising "I really didn't mean to knee you in the face. It has never happened before".

Id apologise to vonn an say it was a unacceptable performance an unfaysal like an I'll come out harder next time with more intensity

 

[Punts]

Still trying the slingshot bullshitt , pushing all the hf up the ground then on the rebound we look have no one to kick to so look sideways and waste time while teams structure there defence

 

[RUNVS]

Id apologise to vonn an say it was a unacceptable performance an unfaysal like an I'll come out harder next time with more intensity

and the next time she will be crying after you accidentally flicked her in the eye with a condom. You will announce the following Monday though that it was an un-Faysals like performance, you have learnt from your mistake and it will not happen again.

 

[RUNVS]

Midfield have had to do too much IMO. Think we're being too critical of the only reason why we aren't bottom 4.

Do not agree. The midfield does not run anywhere near as hard as it did 3 years ago.

 

[Faysals Swans]

and the next time she will be crying after you accidentally flicked her in the eye with a condom. You will announce the following Monday though that it was an un-Faysals like performance, you have learnt from your mistake and it will not happen again.

An I'll proceed to do that to her 3 weeks later an vow it was unlike me an somehow I'll blame it all on reece shaw

 

[vonn]

Do not agree. The midfield does not run anywhere near as hard as it did 3 years ago.

Well it's a different midfield and a much stronger defence so you can't really compare. I think they've run pretty hard this year, which is why our defence has actually looked acceptable when you look at it relative to the league.

 

[The King!]

What are peoples honest appraisals of

K.Jack
Kennedy
Parker
Mitchell
Hannebery

Right now would any of them be in the top 50 players in the competition? What about the top 100 players in the competition?

I think Kennedy and Parker might be between 45 and 50, Hannebery would be around 70 but I would not count the others as being top 100 players (Mitchell might be 101)

Jack is a shadow of what he was , since being skipper been downhill
Kennedys kicking has faded doesnt hit the scoreboard, but still is a good clearance player maintained really
Parker- Cant kick for crap, still a warrior but needs good outside,players to help
Mitchell improving on the right course imo he is still a newbie
Hanners still having a good year overall, is our number 1 mid


Are any top 50?

Hannebery is imo
Parker maybe
Kennedy maybe

The rest no

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Our midfield is to much of the same and they can't kick but our workrate and effort has overcame our general skill shiteness.

What happens when they cannot produce that level of workrate and sustain it for 4 quarters? you saw the result tonight.

Our gameplan is to taxing week in week out stoppage after stoppage has to take its toll.

 

[robbieando]

What are peoples honest appraisals of

K.Jack
Kennedy
Parker
Mitchell
Hannebery

Right now would any of them be in the top 50 players in the competition? What about the top 100 players in the competition?

I think Kennedy and Parker might be between 45 and 50, Hannebery would be around 70 but I would not count the others as being top 100 players (Mitchell might be 101)

- K. Jack is a shadow of who he used to be as a player. Hardly breaks lines anymore and kicking for goal is of someone who thinks they are above the game.
- Kennedy is down on form and not hitting the scoreboard enough
- Parker is a real grunt player but is a bad kick that is holding him back impact wise, which says something. Marking a strong point and should be used more in our gameplan.
- Mitchell has done what has been asked of him. Average but that is because of what is has been told to do.
- Hanners is the only constance line breaker in this group, kicking is still up and down but will more often than not get the ball where it is needed

Hanners and Parker in the Top 50. Kennedy just in the Top 100 but starting to fall. K.Jack dropping and Mitchell middle range

 

[MarkP]

I have to go out and rent a male prostitute so I don't forget what real men look like.

Blow up Luke doll need repairs?

 

[robbieando]

No they share in some blame for sure, you are correct in the sense the mids protect the defence, but cmon if the ball goes forward opposition teams look like scoring every time, we cant limit inside 50s to zero

It it hits the ground in our backline its almost always a scoring chance

Don't get me wrong, the defence has a share of blame in the this, but the overall game plan including the mids and the non-excisiting forward line are just as much to blame.

 

[MarkP]

Because the midfield either can't stop it at a clearance or if they do and get it forward, nobody is home and they are torched on the rebound because of poor disposal, poor decision making and lack of time spent resting forward vs 2012.

Your defence can only look as good as the players helping further up the field and personally I think we are overating our midfield group or at least not giving them enough of the blame.

I agree but with the rider that the mids set up and final execution with the ball is what they are being coached to do and it is crap.

If they are playing against orders it is worse because not 1 player is ever dropped.

 

[The King!]

Still trying the slingshot bullshitt , pushing all the hf up the ground then on the rebound we look have no one to kick to so look sideways and waste time while teams structure there defence

Then get killed on overlap

How many goals were they streaming forward in numbers!!!

Tonight felt like hold it up and chip around until u get it to Jetta then get him to drive it forward

Then kick high to a forward against an outnumbered defender

 

[The King!]

Don't get me wrong, the defence has a share of blame in the this, but the overall game plan including the mids and the non-excisiting forward line are just as much to blame.

Agree

But we saw the difference in outcomes between attacking quick movement v buggering around

To me its down to the use of the cattle full stop, all around the ground as you say